Stogie1020 wrote:Too generalized of a statement. The optical scan scanners store their tally's locally (here in AZ at least) and then are dumped to USB thumb drives for upload to the tallying processor. First, you can affect the quality of the optical scans so an abundance of ballots become "provisional" and must be manually reviewed later. Elections are often called (and conceded) before the provisional ballots are fully counted. Subsequently, additional scanner dumps can be introduced with additional USBs. Tell me how hard it would be to affect the count in one pivotal county of one pivotal state to make sure that state flipped for a candidate? You probably would only need to enhance or reduce a handful of polling locations to make the desired state-wide outcome.
I am an election worker with real experience, and I manage the scanner(s) at the poll.
My county uses paper ballots. They get run through the scanner by the voter and are deposited by the scanner bellow into a locked cabinet that the scanned ballots fall into. At poll closing, the votes are transmitted directly by the scanner to the election office by way of internal cellphone. Then, the ballots are locked and tagged for transport to the election office. The backup USB thumb drive, is sealed in an envelope that has been initialed by witnesses to each other person's tasks. They travel secured in a different poll worker's cars and 2-3 people are involved/witness and sign off on every single step involving the scanner.
Each car has one D and one R.
The USB is only an additional back-up. That's all. Security measures include locking those ballots in the ballot box with a key that only I have at the poll. The ballots are then security/tamper tagged and the serial numbers of the tag are recorded by hand on paper. The count is printed up by the computer and we tape it to the poll window for all to see (including curios voters), before the ballots are transported.
Each and every step with the scanner and the ballots is observed by 2-3 other people working the poll. So to are the unused ballots. Everything must be equal. If there was tampering, the paper ballots would show a discrepancy. Sure someone could try to override the electronic count of the votes, but it all comes down to one basic thing- YOU CAN"T HACK A PAPER BALLOT.
These are about 1/20th of the steps my job involves. Other people doing different things, like check-in at the poll, have their own protocols to prevent the vote being hacked, and provide security that the number of paper ballots disbursed equals the count on the scanner. For every provisional vote, there is a notarized form the voter fills out. The provisional ballots are on a different colored paper. There are probably at least 200 security steps that others must witness and sign-off on, just at the poll.
Having seen all of this at the polls for a around a decade leads me to believe it would take multiple people with different poll jobs to pull off a scam. Could someone at the election office scam the vote? Doubtful, if not impossible, with the number of regular citizens involved making certain, every step is secure and must corelate with the count of every other step exactly.
There is a chit-ton more to it, but I know the ballots that go through the machine are secure at the poll along with the USB. Also, there is the historical voting count for each precinct from prior years. Significant differences from years past are recounted by hand by both an R and a D. Since everyone votes at the same poll, past records compared to each vote's records don't match-up with the history of that poll, there is an automatic hand count rule.
I could go on and on about the steps in the process from printing the ballots, each ballot's individual bar scan code, and the multiple steps of security. There aren't any problems alleged in my county. Is it impossible to hack the vote? Sure. But there is a 98.2% chance that the chain of steps (probably like 300-400 to close a poll) and witnesses, transportation protocols and the like, which make even one improperly cast vote unlikely to get through the system at the poll or involving my scanners.