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Talked to PPP, briefly
jespear Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
Posts: 4,616
I talked to Marc for a few minutes the other night.
It's NOT GOOD !
He's living in a homeless shelter at this time.
His cigars are at a friend's house, and he asked me to post a note on the forums to tell any BOTL that he owes that HE WILL take care of you as soon as he can.

More details to follow after i talk to him again.


Thank you for understanding.

jes
05busa Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
Posts: 95,456
WTF.......i hope my cigars are ok.













And u too marc
wheelrite Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 47,567
Best wishes for PPP..


wheel,
kombat96 Offline
#4 Posted:
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Burnt to many bridges here, but I don't wish ill on anyone.
rfenst Offline
#5 Posted:
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kombat96 wrote:
Burnt to many bridges here, but I don't wish ill on anyone.


Is that really true? Did he rip-off people intentionally? How many? How much $$?

Or, did he just get in over his head given his particular circumstances? Do you believe he intends to "make good"?

Or, is he just having some very unfortunate, major, quality-of-life and health problems right now which, hopefully will improve, if not resolve?

Not saying you should trade with him if you don't want to. Just wondering where you are coming from; and if what we have "heard" is true, whether you have any room for any sympathy for him? That is, would you "walk a mile in his shoes"?
njstone Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-17-2008
Posts: 6,453
Man, this is bad news. I'll br praying for Marc. Why can't he get on disability?
cacman Offline
#7 Posted:
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jespear wrote:
It's NOT GOOD !
He's living in a homeless shelter at this time.

That's a real shame and something I would not wish on anyone.
watchurai Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 09-17-2008
Posts: 8,106
kombat96 wrote:
Burnt to many bridges here, but I don't wish ill on anyone.



Elucidate your position on this, if you please. Did Marc have a trade or sale with you gone sour?
05busa Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
Posts: 95,456
I believe he sold some stock to make ends meet but he was in too deep. I understand if U all sent money and never got anything but i know Marc wouldnt do that. He is a great guy that has some bad luck going on...........


If anyone else besides Kombat is crying over thinking Marc got over on them,Please Pm me and Ill send smokes to make up for it. I know many people dont care for what i do here on Cbid but i always try to help people that were good to me in the past.
hombre Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 11-16-2005
Posts: 6,556
This is bad news. Mark was very friendly to me. I hope things get better for him.
watchurai Offline
#11 Posted:
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05busa wrote:
I believe he sold some stock to make ends meet but he was in too deep. I understand if U all sent money and never got anything but i know Marc wouldnt do that. He is a great guy that has some bad luck going on...........


If anyone else besides Kombat is crying over thinking Marc got over on them,Please Pm me and Ill send smokes to make up for it. I know many people dont care for what i do here on Cbid but i always try to help people that were good to me in the past.



+1. Marc is good people, in a tough spot.

Class move, Anth. Lmk if you get any response, and if I can help.
hoyodude Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-17-2000
Posts: 4,266
I wish Marc nothing but the best. Life can really put us through the spin cycle sometimes and that's when we need our friends the most. I have a feeling he will get things back together, he doesn't strike me as a quitter.
05busa Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
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watchurai wrote:
+1. Marc is good people, in a tough spot.

Class move, Anth. Lmk if you get any response, and if I can help.

Shhhh....dont let anyone hear,It may ruin my image.
fishinguitarman Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2006
Posts: 64,006
God bless ya Marc!
jespear Offline
#15 Posted:
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As one of Marc's closer internet buddies, I appreciate all the prayers and well wishes sent his way by all of you, and I'm sure Marc appreciates it as well.

Anthony, (aka 05busa, aka jester), . . . .
You're okay in my book. I don't care WHAT the rest of the boys in the SJHC say about you !Whistle



rfenst Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 26,506
05busa wrote:


If anyone else besides Kombat is crying over thinking Marc got over on them,Please Pm me and Ill send smokes to make up for it. I know many people dont care for what i do here on Cbid but i always try to help people that were good to me in the past.


x100!

Busa,

You are a mensch (highly honorable man)!
I will pitch in to help you, if that is OK with you.

Robert
APBTMarcel Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 02-22-2007
Posts: 3,013
Good luck bud.
rfenst Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 26,506
05busa wrote:


If anyone else besides Kombat is crying over thinking Marc got over on them,Please Pm me and Ill send smokes to make up for it. I know many people dont care for what i do here on Cbid but i always try to help people that were good to me in the past.


x100!

Busa,

You are a mensch (highly honorable man)!
I will pitch in to help you, if that is OK with you.

Robert
kombat96 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 7,414
Hey i call it like i KNOW it. Im the only one who came forward though. Other forums and other botls here & there got the same story i did.

I tried helping out a botl, and over a few months time i gave ppp 250$. talked to him on the phone a few times, seemed on the up and up. then after about 2 months of no contact or nothing, yet he had time to come on here and comment on a thread or 2. I left emails, PMs too. He was selling stuff on ehad, i know this for a fact cause he told me so & gave me his user name. THERE was my red flag, selling cigars "bands" on that site. Where are mine?, wheres my money?

Im not commenting on anyones honor, other than the person named in the post. SO if it seems like im "crying", i have the rite and deserve it. With that being said, u know what u can do..........
t33bone Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 10-25-2007
Posts: 26,204
kombat96 wrote:
Hey i call it like i KNOW it. Im the only one who came forward though. Other forums and other botls here & there got the same story i did.

I tried helping out a botl, and over a few months time i gave ppp 250$. talked to him on the phone a few times, seemed on the up and up. then after about 2 months of no contact or nothing, yet he had time to come on here and comment on a thread or 2. I left emails, PMs too. He was selling stuff on ehad, i know this for a fact cause he told me so & gave me his user name. THERE was my red flag, selling cigars "bands" on that site. Where are mine?, wheres my money?

Im not commenting on anyones honor, other than the person named in the post. SO if it seems like im "crying", i have the rite and deserve it. With that being said, u know what u can do..........

Rich people dont complain I thought? LOL
Nicar Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 03-18-2010
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t33bone wrote:
Rich people dont complain I thought? LOL



He could have showed off more boxes of CCs or Limiteds if he had those bucks
kombat96 Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 7,414
By far not rich with money. Loved ones and family, yup a millionare.

Just setting some of the facts straight.
nickatnite Offline
#23 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
That's a real shame and something I would not wish on anyone.



+1
05busa Offline
#24 Posted:
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Posts: 95,456
Wow......this got too funny!!!



Thanks guys for the support
xavier883 Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 09-01-2010
Posts: 1,627
Sometimes things can get hard. I hope everything works out for the best even with out knowing them in person, it is still a brother in need.

Prayers and wishes
05busa Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
Posts: 95,456
yes yes........


Hey KomplainBat, i mean Kombat....Ill send u some nice sticks U rich Fuq to make up for Marcs bad luck.....But U will not mention the bad Trade u experienced with Marc ever again......Deal??
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted:
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A cop throwing out hush money hmmmmmm....
05busa Offline
#28 Posted:
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just helping another friend out
ZRX1200 Offline
#29 Posted:
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No way I read here that you're a jerk....


WOOP WOOP!
05busa Offline
#30 Posted:
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i heard that too.....i guess someone knows me better than i do
dubleuhb Offline
#31 Posted:
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05busa wrote:
yes yes........


Hey KomplainBat, i mean Kombat....Ill send u some nice sticks U rich Fuq to make up for Marcs bad luck.....But U will not mention the bad Trade u experienced with Marc ever again......Deal??

Or he could just quit whining over it. He knew his predicament, never crossed his mind this might have happened? Marc gave everyone fair warning with his posts here what was going on with him. Just seems he had more commitments than he could handle
when life crashed around him, let it go. If he gets back on his feet I'm sure he will make good on his deals as his cigars are with someone else for know. Boo hoo!
TIGERCDW Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 09-17-2009
Posts: 7,290
05busa wrote:
yes yes........


Hey KomplainBat, i mean Kombat....Ill send u some nice sticks U rich Fuq to make up for Marcs bad luck.....But U will not mention the bad Trade u experienced with Marc ever again......Deal??



^5 to you Anth.

I'm still making teabag comments though ...you PRICK.

TIGER
Lancaster6802 Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2011
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kombat96 wrote:
Burnt to many bridges here, but I don't wish ill on anyone.

I mean no disrespect, so please understand that. But David's first post here shows his true character and feelings towards PPP. In his original post a month back, he still kept his integrity in place while trying to resolve his issue. I'm aware of his situation much like everyone else, but iv never heard David bitch about it. His bitching was more of explaining his hard feelings, but that was it. David has a good heart too, just like I'm sure PPP does. Sometimes just an apology is all someone wants vs a no comment, excuse or no response at all.
No body wishes anything like this on anyone, even David said he didn't wish I'll on anyone. I just don't agree with attacking David when all he wanted to begin with was an explanation vs the run around.
Once again, I know I don't know many of you, nor do you know me but I just don't agree with throwing Kombat under the bus for something that's between him and another BOTL.
Lancaster6802 Offline
#34 Posted:
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Posts: 7,259
In addition, Jes......
If there is anything we can do as a family to help this guy out, please let us know! I'd be happy to help however I can if you decide to do such a thing. Maybe if we can all contribute, a little can go a long way for our brother in need! Please pm me and let me know
DaQueenBeez Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 01-26-2007
Posts: 19,621
Busajester = one class-act nutbar!

Hang in there, PPP - we're all praying for you!
kombat96 Offline
#36 Posted:
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LOL, this is awesome. Im rich lol, where did u all get my bank account balances. Is it cause I've posted some box photos? Box photos I've done splits with other botl...lol plz know all the facts before speaking. I thank Lancaster for being A voice of reason. As for going into the trades with ppp. The idea is contact me don't ignore my pm and viicemails and emails. Yet post on here. Said it once say it again I wish no harm on anyone oror ill towards anyone. But sympathy no.

As for u busa or the forum favorite...me im just a noob. Keep ur cigars. I wont speak of this unless spoken to. Now how many other names can ya come up with...lol
engletl Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2000
Posts: 26,052
I hope and pray for the best for Marc

But I do understand kombat's point as well. I to did a deal with ppp and took quite a while of spinning wheels to get what I had paid for. And after I had written off the purchase as "charity" he finally came through with his end
wheelrite Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 47,567
kombat96 wrote:
LOL, this is awesome. Im rich lol, where did u all get my bank account balances. Is it cause I've posted some box photos? Box photos I've done splits with other botl...lol plz know all the facts before speaking. I thank Lancaster for being A voice of reason. As for going into the trades with ppp. The idea is contact me don't ignore my pm and viicemails and emails. Yet post on here. Said it once say it again I wish no harm on anyone oror ill towards anyone. But sympathy no.

As for u busa or the forum favorite...me im just a noob. Keep ur cigars. I wont speak of this unless spoken to. Now how many other names can ya come up with...lol


You're a good dude,,,
05busa Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
Posts: 95,456
Kornbat

Kornvat
bdrizzle Offline
#40 Posted:
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I drive a 95 Accord. Can I get some love?
05busa Offline
#41 Posted:
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only if it has closer to 200000 mls on it
rfenst Offline
#42 Posted:
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Lancaster6802 wrote:
I just don't agree with throwing Kombat under the bus for something that's between him and another BOTL.


I strongly disagree. Kombat typed and posted his comments. That made the matter public. It is no longer just between himself and another BOTL. If he was thrown under the bus, he did it to himself.
05busa Offline
#43 Posted:
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Ding ding ding
KPP Offline
#44 Posted:
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Shocker....I disagree with Robert and Busa. Robert go back and read post 5.

Kombat answered your question dude.

Busa sending "some smokes" for his $250 cash he lost trying to help out PPP? While that may actually be a nice jester, hardly what I'd call a consolation.

Beyond that, PPP is homeless. Why don't you focus your energy there? Seems too obvious perhaps....but getting in a pissing match over a guy explaining what happened when asked just doesn't make sense.
05busa Offline
#45 Posted:
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Posts: 95,456
PPP home finding fund..........thanks kyle
KPP Offline
#46 Posted:
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That's more along the lines of what should be going on in here IMO Anthony..

Even a "money for food & clothes" at this pt might suffice. Seems like PPP knows and has been part of this community for a long time. He'd be better served by helping him directly, rather than repaying his debts. For now at least.

As good a cause for a fundraiser as i've seen here in a while.
05busa Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 01-02-2007
Posts: 95,456
Yes indeed.....we tried before and many still send him money and food. I think when this was done last time we gathered enough money for him to stay at home for a few more months. He has had no luck finding work and the anxiety is getting to him. The good thing is if he is in chelter or home support they help alot with medical needs.







No matter what people say about u spazz,u ok in my book. Its a small book with lots of pics of course but its the point.
muhren Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 01-30-2008
Posts: 4,758
FWIW - I'm not up to date with PPP or his issues. I'm only commenting because I read through this thread and others' comments seem similar to what I dealt wth in the near past.

I'll chime in with a little defense of Kombat though really quickly and then butt-out.

I've been owed $100+ (still am actually) and I can only imagine if someone owed me $250 and others said "give him a break" or "You knew what you were getting into" I would get a little feisty too. What Kombat knew was that he was paying $250 for goods. He has not received his goods or his money back. I also entered a deal, goods for money. I provided goods and got no money. Deal NOT complete. Kombat seems to be in the same boat I was in.

Offering cigars, while a GREAT gesture, doesn't cover his monetary loss, nor does it cover the exact cigars he was offered (I'm assuming "aged" knowing PPP) so sending something else is akin to sending a 32" HDTV when you ordered a 50" HDTV. both nice TVs but not what he ordered. Bad example, but hopefully the point is made.

I made this offer, via another board, for my missing money - I asked that someone vouching for the guy and saying "I know him, he's good for it" cover owed payment at a reduced rate. In my case, I offered someone cover $100 and they could keep the extra $50 IF he paid THEM back just for taking the chance. I would "sell" this guy's debt at a loss. No one covered him.

Maybe Kombat would be fine with someone paying "some" of his owed refund until Marc can pay whomever covers his debt for him.

Along the money lines...My two cents - If you're going to raise money, the first of it should go to those PPP is indebted to, to clear his mind and plate of those extra obligations.

Just some thoughts.

Lastly, I'm not going to get worked up over this like I did on the other board...it's a lot easier to stay partial when you're not personally involved!

M
jespear Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
Posts: 4,616
I have not been able to get back in touch with Marc since our previous phone call.
I will continue to try.

This whole post has taken on a life of it's own, and gotten away from it's original intent, which was Marc wanting people on the boards to know WHY he has not made good on his deals, and also that HE WILL do so as soon as his situation allows. I KNOW this matter weighs heavily on his mind.

I can understand BOTH sides of the responses posted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I wish we could all stop the bickering, ( for lack of a better word ), and get back to the issue at hand . . . Marc !

I appreciate ALL the offers of help being offered up, and I agree with KPP that just giving some cigars to the brothers that feel slighted is not the answer.
Personally, I think that a better idea would be for people to send him a few bucks, just $5 or $10 each, to give him the means to get the pending cigars to their intended recipients.
I think it would do Marc a world of good to know that he doesn't have these obligations hanging over his head, and would ease his depression BIG TIME!

I can't POSSIBLY imagine what it is like for him living in his present situation, and I pray that I, or anyone else on these forums, will never have to deal with similar circumstances.

I will keep you all posted, as best I can.

Thanks !


jes




muhren Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 01-30-2008
Posts: 4,758
Well said Jes.

I agree that the intention of the thread may have been missed, but it seems to have been missed by the folks who are owed the money...ya know.

I don't know that sending a guy enough money to ship cigars is the answer though. IF I were in his situation, I wouldn't be using $5-10 to ship anything. I'd be using it to eat!

Cigars are a luxury and PPP doesn't seem to have a want or need for luxury at this point.

Is there anyone who lives close by that could kind of "take over" his stock...maybe the friend who is storing them can get the money to cover shipping instead??

It just seems like there are folks ready to help...it's just a matter of finding the right help.

Maybe Kombat (and anyone else who is owed) could provide a suggestion for a solution??

M
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