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Breakout3030 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:10 PM EST
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Gentlemen,

I purchased a Zederkoff digital hygromeyer (silver square, one button for changing C/F) from CBid. I followed the prescribed method for calibration and after 28 hours found it reads 73% RH. The instructions that came with the hygrometer say that it is adjustable. My question, does anyone know how to adjust this unit in order to complete the calibration of the device?

If I mistakenly asked a question that has been answered numerous times in the past by I apologize up front. I did search the forums but to no avail.
jetblasted Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:17 PM EST
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Ask RAM ... Mellow
Breakout3030 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:21 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Ask RAM ... Mellow


jetblasted, who/what is RAM?
banderl Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:21 PM EST
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Does the manufacturer have a website?
Maybe you can find it there.
banderl Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:23 PM EST
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RAM is the guy that you're supposed to ask before buying something.
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#6 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:35 PM EST
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I dont have that particular model but Ive found the calbration knob on mine less than reliable. What I did was to cut a small piece of blank label and write the number that was off. In your case with a 73 after the salt calibration, I would write " +2 " and stick it on the face of the meter next to the rh readout. That would remind me the meter was short two points from actual. When you put the meter in your humi and it shows 64, you add 2 and get the actual 66 rh.
Breakout3030 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:49 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Does the manufacturer have a website?
Maybe you can find it there.


I've searched the internet for a website but only find those who sell this unit not one that manufacturers it. There is a customer service number that I was planning to call if I couldn't find an answer through the forums.
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#8 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:51 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I dont have that particular model but Ive found the calbration knob on mine less than reliable. What I did was to cut a small piece of blank label and write the number that was off. In your case with a 73 after the salt calibration, I would write " +2 " and stick it on the face of the meter next to the rh readout. That would remind me the meter was short two points from actual. When you put the meter in your humi and it shows 64, you add 2 and get the actual 66 rh.


That is definitely the simplest solution. I was sure since the instructions stated it was "adjustable" that I had missed a the easy fix.
banderl Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:56 PM EST
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The search here is not the best.
delta1 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:57 PM EST
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I have a couple of hygrometers that have a knob that allows an adjustment to the number displayed. Both were still off when I retested, so I just use the sticky label method.
Breakout3030 Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:59 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
The search here is not the best.


It's really not. I scrolled through page after page manually looking as well just to be sure I didn't ask a repeated questionmuch less a dumb one. Thanks for the help fellas!
delta1 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 6:59 PM EST
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Also recalibrate every 6 months or so. And use Heartfelt 65 rh beads...
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 7:11 PM EST
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Buy HF beads and you'll be fine.

But if you're a worry wart, go to Lowe's hardware or Wallyworld and buy a damn digital thermometer/hydrometer for $10. The batteries last a damn year.
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#14 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 7:16 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Also recalibrate every 6 months or so. And use Heartfelt 65 rh beads...


I've got the humi-care black ice pie pack. It tends to be a little drier here in Texas during the winter so I have things holding at 69-70% RH. The analog hygrometers were actually dead on after performing the salt calibration. They both read +/- 1% and based on my research I think I have it setup correctly.

Do you think my RH is to high?
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#15 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 8:01 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
RAM is the guy that you're supposed to ask before buying something.






First off, Breakie, don't panic, throw the danm devices out and use common sense and don't get so into all the HYPE get yourself some Heartfelt beads or Kitty Litter(Scared ), add a few humi devices in the humidor and you will be fine.



Gave up on the devices a LONG TIME ago and guess what, never have any issue's.




Sorry you live in TExass, maybe look into moving out , as soon as you can.



Follow Brother ZRX's advice and enjoy.



Again, don't PANIC. RollEyes



RAM ram27bat
delta1 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 8:13 PM EST
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After being here for awhile, I learned that most veteran members found that storing cigars at lower rh produces better results. When I dropped the rh to 65% from 70% in my storage containers and humis, my cigars burned better and straighter, tasted less harsh, and stayed lit longer between puffs.

The Heartfelt beads are designed for a specific rh, so plenty of guys have just ditched their hyrometers and trust the beads to keep things close to their set rh in their containers. The beads will give a visual clue when they dry out, and will turn white. Just spritz them down with distilled water until most beads are clear and they're good to go for a couple of weeks. Make sure you have an adequate amount of beads for the space and you don't have to use a hygrometer.

I keep using the hygrometers because I'm anal that way...
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Dec 26 2014, 8:20 PM EST
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70% is ok unless you're smoking maduros or koobans.

Some people prefer 55-60%

65 is a happy medium place.

Remember too much moisture means mold. Too little means dry cigars, dry you can "bring back" mold not so much. Also you may get burn problems with too high rh%
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#18 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 8:57 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I dont have that particular model but Ive found the calbration knob on mine less than reliable. What I did was to cut a small piece of blank label and write the number that was off. In your case with a 73 after the salt calibration, I would write " +2 " and stick it on the face of the meter next to the rh readout. That would remind me the meter was short two points from actual. When you put the meter in your humi and it shows 64, you add 2 and get the actual 66 rh.

Yup, did the same thing with a digital one I have. I don't think I could even adjust it if I wanted to. Simple solution.
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#19 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:16 AM EST
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Big fan of Bovedas and HF beads.

So long as the container is well sealed, you can toss your hydrometer.

Bovedas shrink and beads turn white. Rehydrate when that happens and you're back on track.
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#20 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:20 AM EST
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OK...you guys mentioned beads before and I went out and got the blue Humi-care beads. Now I see you actually saying Heartfelt. Is Heartfelt that much better than the blue beads?
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#21 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:29 AM EST
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gary96 wrote:
OK...you guys mentioned beads before and I went out and got the blue Humi-care beads. Now I see you actually saying Heartfelt. Is Heartfelt that much better than the blue beads?


Blue beads are just humidity releasing stuffs, no regulation. Run the risk of going too high, and subsequently, molding.

HF beads will both release, and absorb excess humidity at whatever level they're set. I.E. if you buy 65% beads, they will bring down the humidity to 65, or raise it to 65. And they work, when used as directed.
edin508 Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:31 AM EST
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This should explain a lot.
http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/O1LCHPfdv
danmdevries Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:32 AM EST
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The most foolproof method is Bovedas IMO. Can't oversaturate them (as easily) like you can beads, and they're a bit easier to handle.

About $35 will get you a pound of HF beads or 12 Bovedas. Cheap insurance for your cigar storage.
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#24 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:33 AM EST
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edin508 wrote:
This should explain a lot.
http://www.markhound.com/trademark/search/O1LCHPfdv


Applause d'oh!
Breakout3030 Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 9:57 AM EST
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All of this is very good information. I watched a lot of videos, read books, checked reviews on different products, and this has been the most helpful question I've asked to date. Thanks everyone for the help and rest assured I will be making the necessary changes ASAP!
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#26 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 10:23 AM EST
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Your biggest take away should be ask RAM's permission before buying or selling anything. Also ask him before asking the forum anything. To be safe just ask him before you post anything. That's always best.
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#27 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 10:38 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Your biggest take away should be ask RAM's permission before buying or selling anything. Also ask him before asking the forum anything. To be safe just ask him before you post anything. That's always best.



But, it's important that you ask him if you can ask him before you ask him.
danmdevries Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 10:40 AM EST
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ram27bat
Breakout3030 Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 10:44 AM EST
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IMHO you don't know what you don't know so maybe a ask RAM sticky would help solve the problems of the world.
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#30 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 11:25 AM EST
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Breakout3030 wrote:
IMHO you don't know what you don't know so maybe a ask RAM sticky would help solve the problems of the world.

Clearly you're not getting it noob...............you need to ask RAM, if a RAM sticky would help solve the problems of the world..........don't just pose that question to us in the Forum.........WE DON"T KNOW!!
Breakout3030 Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 12:01 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Clearly you're not getting it noob...............you need to ask RAM, if a RAM sticky would help solve the problems of the world..........don't just pose that question to us in the Forum.........WE DON"T KNOW!!


Holy Crap! What if RAM doesn't know? Would he even know that he doesn't know or would he not know that he doesn't know therefore creating a paradox where the question goes unanswered but noone would ever know because RAM wasn't asked about being asked to answer a question in which he already knew he didn't know.


AAAAARRRRRGGGGGG! My head is pounding! RAM will it ever stop?
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 12:03 PM EST
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Is this where I go to complain about drunk bidding/winning?
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#33 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 12:18 PM EST
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Ram will always know. Beads, heartfelt or litter, screw the hygrometers, settle in to a nice 65%, worry wart phase will pass unless you're an engineerin which case electroshock treatment may be required.:-)
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#34 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 12:59 PM EST
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Breakout3030 wrote:
jetblasted, who/what is RAM?


ram27bat
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#35 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 1:09 PM EST
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Don't worry about asking questions. That's how we all learned.

With the KL route, you only have to recharge every six months or so with DW.

Quite cheap.

Most guys here leave their humidors open is the reason for cat using litter.

You will be amazed at how it works. Reliable, affordable, and kind to the cigars.

P.S. I always close lid on my humidor and coolidor even though I don't have a cat.
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#36 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 1:14 PM EST
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skillett wrote:
Don't worry about asking questions. That's how we all learned.

With the KL route, you only have to recharge every six months or so with DW.

Quite cheap.

Most guys here leave their humidors open is the reason for cat using litter.

You will be amazed at how it works. Reliable, affordable, and kind to the cigars.

P.S. I always close lid on my humidor and coolidor even though I don't have a cat.


You guys are jacking with me now. Leaving humidors open and kitty litter for stabilizing RH?
hinzna Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 4:23 PM EST
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Ugh,.puff. I drunk bid my way into a hole this weekend.
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#38 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 5:21 PM EST
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Breakout3030 wrote:
You guys are jacking with me now. Leaving humidors open and kitty litter for stabilizing RH?

Hey Bro,
They have been jacking with you from the start, except for the advice about the Heartfelt beads. That they were being "straight up" on.
This place is like that. You just have to learn to discern the difference.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer
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#39 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 5:54 PM EST
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Homebrew wrote:
Hey Bro,
They have been jacking with you from the start, except for the advice about the Heartfelt beads. That they were being "straight up" on.
This place is like that. You just have to learn to discern the difference.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer



Dave's right. We have been messing with you and you were a sport about it. Here's a link to that FAQ.


http://tinyurl.com/n8n49xd


Welcome aboard!!!
ZRX1200 Offline
#40 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 6:02 PM EST
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^ be at advice so far.
Breakout3030 Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 6:42 PM EST
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No no no.. it's all perfectly good advice. So here is what I've done;

First, I now have a humidor I will use to keep my cigars and those I will trade/gift to my new friends on CBid. It will be maintained with HF beads and given the love and attention every good cigar deserves.

Second, I have set up a coolidor complete with tidy cat and an open lid. This will house the cigars I plan to trade/gift with the rest ofyou jerks who keep running amuck with bad advice and inferior humi environment creation techniques.

Lastly, I'm now making two lists of names. One list for the humidor group and another for the coolidor group.

Now you are all wondering "which group am I in?"

Who had the last laugh now? Hahahaha

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#42 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 6:46 PM EST
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Pm Jaderose and he'll help you decide which group your after the camping trip with Zrx, don't worry it only hurts for a little bit.
ZRX1200 Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 6:50 PM EST
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I'm a platinum member, if I want it Trish sends it to me.
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#44 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 7:07 PM EST
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I've got the thonginator saved as my wall paper. It makes me feel better about myself.

I've been camping with a bunch of sausage jockeys. I was the one who left the most quarters.

I sent Jaderose a PM. That was 6 days ago and still no response.

Is the best you guys got?

Plowboy221 Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 7:21 PM EST
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How bout some cherry southern comfort, or pink lemonade vodka 😀
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#46 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 7:31 PM EST
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Plowboy221 wrote:
How bout some cherry southern comfort, or pink lemonade vodka 😀


I got plenty of cherry Southern Comfort but you are on your own for sissy lemonade vodka. Ha
Plowboy221 Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 7:36 PM EST
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😢 💔
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#48 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 8:07 PM EST
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hinzna wrote:
Ugh,.puff. I drunk bid my way into a hole this weekend.



So what? I think most everyone here has done this.

Or do like I did get drunk and buy fn LP9s and T52s, now that'll piss the wife off.

Here's another golden rule that I'd never seen discussed but it should be in the noob FAQ.

"Don't ever open your humidors when the wife is looking over your shoulder and sees just how many cigars you have"

You will hear her say "wow you have a lot of cigars!!!"

Which equates to "you have too many cigars."

Funny thing is I've already measured the closet to see if a cooler will fit in there!!!!
hinzna Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 8:23 PM EST
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Haha, cobra. The LP9's and T52's are exactly what I bid on.

And because I didn't close out of my lots window before passing out, the lady is not happy with me. We had a very nice "if you have money for that, you have money for this" dinner tonight.
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#50 Posted: Sat, Dec 27 2014, 8:29 PM EST
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My condolences to your bank accounts. It only took me two weeks to piss off the wife and a lot of explaining when the she saw my total expenditure for the month of December. Luckily for me my humidor fits in the doghouse with me.Herfing
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