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Cigars W/ A Cross Help
Chewmaize Offline
#1 Posted:
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Alright brothers of the almighty stogie, I need a little help. I want to make a clock for a retired Pastor, I need help on finding a box that has a cross or anything religious. Please, don't get all holy or anti-holy on me, he's a nice guy and he deserves something that he relates to. Has to be something recent that I'll be able to purchase, I'm gonna keep the smokes (I'll probably give him a couple though, I'm nice that way Angel ). Any help would be great.
robertsccr5 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Illusione Cruzado is probably the closest.
gary96 Offline
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Hello Chewmaize,
If you look at my avatar, you will notice it is just an Ave Marie band. I have a few dozen bands if they can be of use. I checked the box the cigars came in, but there is no special markings on the box itself, BUT, it has this cool metal (looks like pewter) clip that goes over the edge. If they could be of use to you, let me know.
Chewmaize Offline
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robertsccr5 wrote:
Illusione Cruzado is probably the closest.


Thx brother, I'll check'em out.

Chewmaize Offline
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gary96 wrote:
Hello Chewmaize,
If you look at my avatar, you will notice it is just an Ave Marie band. I have a few dozen bands if they can be of use. I checked the box the cigars came in, but there is no special markings on the box itself, BUT, it has this cool metal (looks like pewter) clip that goes over the edge. If they could be of use to you, let me know.


Hmmmm. I'll have to see if I can find a picture of the box.
robertsccr5 Offline
#6 Posted:
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looks like it already exists...still an idea you should execute

https://img1.etsystatic.com/034/0/9513947/il_340x270.604224259_eptt.jpg
namadio Offline
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gary96 wrote:
Hello Chewmaize,
If you look at my avatar, you will notice it is just an Ave Marie band. I have a few dozen bands if they can be of use. I checked the box the cigars came in, but there is no special markings on the box itself, BUT, it has this cool metal (looks like pewter) clip that goes over the edge. If they could be of use to you, let me know.



The ave maria samplers have a templar style shield w/ cross on the inside lid per pictures from the mothership... if that helps any...
Buckwheat Offline
#8 Posted:
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The Ave Maria Reconquista box looks like a winner. But it may be too small.
hinzna Offline
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I'm the creative type too... if you're short on options I could try my hand at painting a box for you...

Wont be a half ass job... if I can't do it right ill let you know.
itsawaldo Offline
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robertsccr5 wrote:
looks like it already exists...still an idea you should execute

https://img1.etsystatic.com/034/0/9513947/il_340x270.604224259_eptt.jpg



IV for number four is wrong. Should be IIII
At least the hands are positioned in the right spots to enhance the dial, 10:08 is the time you want when showing and selling watches,clocks.
Outside of that not a bad looking clock.
Waldo aka Father Time
namadio Offline
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itsawaldo wrote:
IV for number four is wrong. Should be IIII
At least the hands are positioned in the right spots to enhance the dial, 10:08 is the time you want when showing and selling watches,clocks.
Outside of that not a bad looking clock.
Waldo aka Father Time


Why 10:08
dkeage Offline
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namadio wrote:
Why 10:08

A smiling clock is a happy clock!
gary96 Offline
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I also got a box of Ave Marie Holy Grail stashed away. I just checked it out. It is square...8.25 inches and is a little over 1 inch thick. Across the front in gold is HOLY GRAIL. There is the paper seal on the lower left corner that is 4 x 3.25 inches. On the seal is big shield with a big cross - Crusader type look to it.
Chewmaize Offline
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I'm currently looking into everyone's replies. Thanks for all of the legwork ya'all, I appreciate the hell out of it.
Chewmaize Offline
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hinzna wrote:
I'm the creative type too... if you're short on options I could try my hand at painting a box for you...

Wont be a half ass job... if I can't do it right ill let you know.


PM sent
itsawaldo Offline
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dkeage wrote:
A smiling clock is a happy clock!


Applause

That's true, also frames the (most) brands names, looks balanced as well.

Chewmaize Offline
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Maybe it's just me, I don't know, but I can't stand putting any kind of numbers around a cigar box clock. Maybe on a wall clock......and that's a big MAYBE. To me, it just takes away from the box. The clock is actually secondary to the box, in my humble opinion. 12/3/6/9.....if you can't tell the time with just those numbers, get a digital clock and start smoking cigarettes. fog
itsawaldo Offline
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^ totally your choice in regards to numerals, you're the designer!
The size of the box will determine if you want to "4 quarter" the dial or numbered. That looks like a big box in that photo, you could try a number 12 at the top then indexes (in your case, cases) at 3/6/9.
The watch I'm wearing today has 2/4/6/8/10/12, you have a myriad of options.
Good luck, I look forward to your wall clocks.
Chewmaize Offline
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The wall clocks are in the very near future. I have a couple of large cigar boxes ("normal boxes") that I'm going to work with. I'll keep ya'all posted. I have a couple of table clocks that I've made that'll I'll post in the Trade section soon also. Still collecting boxes for the Grandfather Clock Project. Have a lot of coles in the fire, but it keeps me busy.
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I made a trade with Chewie this past weekend for one of his cigar box clocks. It really is a cool piece of tobacciacana. It won't be the only clock I get from him and I can't wait to see where his imagination goes with this idea.
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itsawaldo wrote:
IV for number four is wrong. Should be IIII
At least the hands are positioned in the right spots to enhance the dial, 10:08 is the time you want when showing and selling watches,clocks.
Outside of that not a bad looking clock.
Waldo aka Father Time


I was taught that when writing in Roman Numerals that the correct way to write a number is with the fewest characters as possible. Is it different for clocks or did I just miss the joke?
kombat96 Offline
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Red and black tubo boxes by tatuaje.
itsawaldo Offline
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Breakout3030 wrote:
I was taught that when writing in Roman Numerals that the correct way to write a number is with the fewest characters as possible. Is it different for clocks or did I just miss the joke?


With watches and clocks it's a matter of balance as well as which way to position the numeral IV to be read, IIII is read 4 whether it's inverted or not, with 5-V and going on to VI,VII, VIII, IX etc., the dials numbers are easily read and understood.
By going with IIII, there's no confusion with IV - VI.

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I bought my brother, a Baptist Christian minister, a cross as a gift long ago. I noticed he never wore or displayed it. When I asked, he said the cross, one with equal length crossbars joined in the middle, like the one used for the Illusione Cruzado, were not symbolic of his faith. Most Christians revere a cross with a longer vertical cross bar, like the cross used to execute Jesus.
Chewmaize Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I bought my brother, a Baptist Christian minister, a cross as a gift long ago. I noticed he never wore or displayed it. When I asked, he said the cross, one with equal length crossbars joined in the middle, like the one used for the Illusione Cruzado, were not symbolic of his faith. Most Christians revere a cross with a longer vertical cross bar, like the cross used to execute Jesus.


Right on the money delta.
euodias Offline
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I've never known a pastor that needed more religious iconography in their home. Just pick out a box that you think is really nice. He's not gonna look at it and say 'whelp, too bad I can't hang this up cause it ain't got a cross on it'. Maybe there is a hobby or other interest he has you could draw inspiration from?
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euodias wrote:
I've never known a pastor that needed more religious iconography in their home. Just pick out a box that you think is really nice. He's not gonna look at it and say 'whelp, too bad I can't hang this up cause it ain't got a cross on it'. Maybe there is a hobby or other interest he has you could draw inspiration from?


Shewwww. I'm glad you know him better then I do, whoever you are.....takes A LOT off my shoulders. THANK YOU for your words of wisdom. Here's and ideal, look at the title of this listing and think real hard about the advice that I've asked for. I haven't asked for someones ideology or half-azzed "whelps". Just stick to the topic please. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, you'd be best served to stay out of it.
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Wow
Just wow

I know, I should stay out of it too. But he was only trying to help. (Which is also in the title of the thread)
Chewmaize Offline
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DCLover wrote:
Wow
Just wow

I know, I should stay out of it too. But he was only trying to help. (Which is also in the title of the thread)


True, I might have overreacted, but the topic is "Cigars W/ A Cross Help", not "Give Me Ideals Of Something Else Help". If I've upset someone, I apologize, but it is what it is. Maybe it's the Military in me, but I actually like staying on target. So, as far as I'm concerned, this off topic stuff is horse
euodias Offline
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Chewmaize wrote:
Shewwww. I'm glad you know him better then I do, whoever you are.....takes A LOT off my shoulders. THANK YOU for your words of wisdom. Here's and ideal, look at the title of this listing and think real hard about the advice that I've asked for. I haven't asked for someones ideology or half-azzed "whelps". Just stick to the topic please. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, you'd be best served to stay out of it.


Barring an astounding coincidence, I'm pretty sure you know this retired pastor better than I do. I while I can only speak in generalities, I do have a pretty large baseline to draw from, since I know and have known hundreds of pastors, including my father and my father in law. It happens to be my vocation too, so at the very least I can speak for myself. But that's not the point.

The point is that a handmade clock is a great gift, but trying to figure out what religious iconography will work might be more trouble than its worth. If you are concerned that the Jerusalem cross on the Cruzado won't work, then the sort of heraldic style cross on the Ave Maria might not work either. He may also feel weird about having a reference to the Catholic prayer laying around (Hail Mary, ...). I could go on.

One of the downsides to being a pastor is that when people know you are a pastor, that tends to be all they see you as. Something that pays tribute to or goes with another aspect of his life might be pretty cool.
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Chewmaize wrote:
True, I might have overreacted, but the topic is "Cigars W/ A Cross Help", not "Give Me Ideals Of Something Else Help". If I've upset someone, I apologize, but it is what it is. Maybe it's the Military in me, but I actually like staying on target. So, as far as I'm concerned, this off topic stuff is horse


Brick wall
gary96 Offline
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Have 40 years in the military....31 of it in uniform. I don't remember ever talking that way.
TIGERCDW Offline
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Makana is a well liked and respected BOTL here.

You are a total Douche for your response to him offering an opinion.

If you want people to only stay on topic in your posts go make your own cigar forum.

You say that it may be the military in you.

I'm sorry,the military in my eyes is partly about Class and Respect.

You have shown neither.

TIGER
DCLover Offline
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Well put Chris.
Chewmaize Offline
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I apologized. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Wow, I had no ideal that my "harsh" words would bring such a back-lash. In case anyone cares, and I wasn't going to say anything or complain, I was offended by the fact that someone implied that I should try something else because I probably didn't know my own former Pastor well enough to decide what I should do for him. I was upset by the comments, but instead of whining, I just stated facts. Once again, I apologize. It seems no matter what I say, I end up offending someone somehow. And when it comes to my Military comment, I stand by it, and I will not retract what I said. For some odd reason, that one line of text is being brought up a lot. I simply stated that I like to stay on target. Sorry, but that is just me I guess, for that I will not apologize. Like I have stated earlier, I have apologized and I am trying to move forward and let this go.
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Well, to be honest, you really haven't apologized yet. You start out saying you are apologizing, but then go into a defense of why you said what you said. That is not really apologizing. As far as the military comment. As one of us that have been in the military or still in, I kind of take offense you would use your military training as a reason for slamming the guy as you did. I would consider myself focused and mission oriented, but I have never had to talk that way to get anything done. Using some military training as a defense is a cop out....you didn't learn to talk that way to superiors, subordinates, or peers from the military
Chewmaize Offline
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gary96 wrote:
Well, to be honest, you really haven't apologized yet. You start out saying you are apologizing, but then go into a defense of why you said what you said. That is not really apologizing. As far as the military comment. As one of us that have been in the military or still in, I kind of take offense you would use your military training as a reason for slamming the guy as you did. I would consider myself focused and mission oriented, but I have never had to talk that way to get anything done. Using some military training as a defense is a cop out....you didn't learn to talk that way to superiors, subordinates, or peers from the military


Okay, no defense. I'm sorry. I apologize.
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Chewmaize wrote:
I apologized. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Wow, I had no ideal that my "harsh" words would bring such a back-lash. In case anyone cares, and I wasn't going to say anything or complain, I was offended by the fact that someone implied that I should try something else because I probably didn't know my own former Pastor well enough to decide what I should do for him. I was upset by the comments, but instead of whining, I just stated facts. Once again, I apologize. It seems no matter what I say, I end up offending someone somehow. And when it comes to my Military comment, I stand by it, and I will not retract what I said. For some odd reason, that one line of text is being brought up a lot. I simply stated that I like to stay on target. Sorry, but that is just me I guess, for that I will not apologize. Like I have stated earlier, I have apologized and I am trying to move forward and let this go.


Just a thought here Bro.

If you post up expect responses. You may agree with some, some you may not. Some you may outright dislike. But, that's the nature of the beast. In the end, it's how you react that will define your stay here.
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Chewmaize wrote:
I apologized. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. Wow, I had no ideal that my "harsh" words would bring such a back-lash. In case anyone cares, and I wasn't going to say anything or complain, I was offended by the fact that someone implied that I should try something else because I probably didn't know my own former Pastor well enough to decide what I should do for him. I was upset by the comments, but instead of whining, I just stated facts. Once again, I apologize. It seems no matter what I say, I end up offending someone somehow. And when it comes to my Military comment, I stand by it, and I will not retract what I said. For some odd reason, that one line of text is being brought up a lot. I simply stated that I like to stay on target. Sorry, but that is just me I guess, for that I will not apologize. Like I have stated earlier, I have apologized and I am trying to move forward and let this go.



Long ago I learned a lesson that has served me well. Sometimes its better to lose a battle than to lose a war.

Keep in my, you're not the only military vet hanging out here. You don't need to beat you're chest. Otherwise, me and quite a few others will have to beat ours as well.


whip
Abrignac Offline
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Chewmaize wrote:
Shewwww. I'm glad you know him better then I do, whoever you are.....takes A LOT off my shoulders. THANK YOU for your words of wisdom. Here's and ideal, look at the title of this listing and think real hard about the advice that I've asked for. I haven't asked for someones ideology or half-azzed "whelps". Just stick to the topic please. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation, you'd be best served to stay out of it.



Joe, he didn't say that he knew your pastor better than you. He just made a general comment.

Lighten up Francis.

Angel
Abrignac Offline
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Guys give Chewmaize a break. He's under the Abrignac cone of protection.
Chewmaize Offline
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Beer But who's the Big Toe????

I hear ya. Just a short fuse, still working on it.
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Chewmaize wrote:
Beer But who's the Big Toe????

I hear ya. Just a short fuse, still working on it.


If you're referring to Sgt. Hulka, that would be me.


TIGERCDW Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Guys give Chewmaize a break. He's under the Abrignac cone of protection.



Oh that's a big help.

Pass the Sippy Cup.

TIGER
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TIGERCDW wrote:
Oh that's a big help.

Pass the Sippy Cup.

TIGER



I would, but you'll need to pull it out of your arse first.
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Chewie, Euodais was offering an honest opinion with an insightful perspective that he thought would be helpful. People often do that here. If you lighten up just a little, you probably will enjoy the forum more. Just my 2 cent's.
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Chewmaize wrote:
True, I might have overreacted, but the topic is "Cigars W/ A Cross Help", not "Give Me Ideals Of Something Else Help". If I've upset someone, I apologize, but it is what it is. Maybe it's the Military in me, but I actually like staying on target. So, as far as I'm concerned, this off topic stuff is horse



The important word is "help." It's kinda like asking for opinions. Expect a lot of comments. Some you may like, some you may not. But, at the end of the day you asked. You may not like all the comments, but that's the nature of the beast.
Chewmaize Offline
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I understand the varying opinions, this is an open forum. I overreacted, and I apologize.
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Chewmaize = Taps

TIGER
namadio Offline
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euodias wrote:
It happens to be my vocation too, so at the very least I can speak for myself.


Going further off topic here but....

I think I would enjoy smoking stogies with a priest/pastor. I used to smoke with my dentist. I'd grab the late evening appointment and we'd light up out back after. He was a cool dude but it always felt weird because dentists always yelling at me for tobacco stains on teeth and stuff.
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