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Looking for opinions o. Graycliffs,which is pne of my faves,mainly tried 30 yr,platinum cpl others....So looking for said reviews as well as their connection to Camacho....Thx guys

Lov em all great smokes..probably my fave

Gran cru.....Perdomo???
Never heard of Graycliff gran cru

Tried the one you sent today,platinum yesterday,which I still say had grape taste,but was good...Ive mainly smoked the gold/silver ones...I'll do some research..Actually got book I been writing in since everyone sent so many nice sticks....

Off topic a bit but goin on krystal baller tonight...love surrogates too...

Back to graycliff....thx zr4433

I have tried the 30 yr. Fave,platinum,and the gold/silver ones.....may try to order the purplevones

Yes ill take into consideration...The 30 yr,platinum and the pg?gold/silver label are frickin great sticks imo....Gonna try purple label also I believe gran cru....Zr says pretty good ..Admittedly price of those scared me 2_3$ Seems very cheap....With ur advice I shall try

The price point of exppresso and purple band almost too cheap?????

Given the fact this thread was started by an idiot, the next story's names will be withheld, but a friend of mine who was a rock-star of the NFL was sitting on the beach outside Atlantis on the beach with the greatest NBA player of all time. The NBA player threw the NFL player's phone in the ocean. The next morning, feeling guilty, the NBA player bought the NFL player 5 boxes of Graycliff's.

The story goes on from there, but shortly after this happened, I was at the NFL player's PH and all that was left was Graycliff' Candellas. I took a pass.

Double Espressos aren't a CBid exclusive, the shpo I belong too was the first to bring Graycliffs into Ohio and the owner has maintained very tight relationship with Graycliff. They're offered in those robusto/short churchills CBid offers and a few other vitolas not seen on CBid, the a Double Espresso coms in a shaggy foot torpedo as well.
The Ctrystals when they first came out were more like the Espresso, a little too strong so they were toned down and the people that liked the original Crystal blends spoke up and that's where the Espresso came about. Then to amp up an already heady blend the Double Espresso was released. Avalino Laura himself RIP was the one that pushed for the Double Espresso.
For the Bengals Colts game the shpo owner had a members event and offered the Espresso prototypes for us, they were from '03 and being 12 years old they were a helluva great cigar! Lots of of burnt finger nubbing those.
Analino passed but his son Abell is keeping the old ways of cigar blending and rolling alive at Graycliff.

Their retail price is horrendous, and thr C-Bid price is ...

** edited by SteveR@CigarBid

I thought Zach Lavine was is the greatest NBA player ever

From Trish in earlier thread:


Philly Jack wrote:
and I got it right from Graycliff that you own some of there bands also or are you calling the Graycliff rep a lair. Trish does CI reproduce cigars with other manufactures names on the label yes or no it's that easy.



We pay a fee to use their name. Its called a licensing fee, kinda like the fee you pay to be able to put your pro sports teams' names on t-shirts, jerseys, etc. So no, he's not a liar. But Graycliff is aware of it as they rake in the money. Nothing underhanded and no one has ever said that these cigars are from the Bahamas. We'll make mention of their name in the marketing information but again, nothing underhanded there.

You may not like how 95% of the products in the world are marketed, but that doesn't make it wrong. There's a lot of things I don't like: Pistashio ice cream, high credit card interest rates, kids mouthing off to their parents. But most of it I can't fix. So, like the pistashio ice cream thing, I just don't buy it. if you don't like the Graycliff cigars we sell, don't buy them.

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More from Trish:

[graycliffs are] a sanctioned product, made in a different location.

If you want the real deal Graycliff cigars, you MUST purchase them from the hotel in the Bahamas. They don't distribute them anywhere else, to the best of my knowledge. So its safe to say that if you're purchasing it from us, its not made in the Bahamas. If you do your homework, you would find this information out and not be looking for them on an auction site.

If you were to buy a t-shirt that said Dalla Cowboys on it that wasn't licensed by the NFL, that would be a knock-off. If you go to Chinatown in NYC and buy a 'coach' purse that isn't actually made by Coach, that's a knock-off. If you buy a Graycliff cigar that you don't like, was made in Honduras but is licensed to a company that had it made in Honduras, that is NOT a knock-off - its a cigar you don't like.

Ok.now another question....platinum I smoked did say bahamas...so its a real graycliff??? The rest are basically fake?........So blending,construction etc is different I take it?This seems very problematic at a major level.....

Wow....why the edit?

I like fake sticks then I guess....As I said I looked again cpl wrappers...labels have Bahamas.....The platinum in particular is the one I said was ALOT different taste ...Thought due to line...So these basically could be made by anyone different monthly,yearly etc...?

Ok .....other than a cpl...I'm sure of so ill research closer...thx man

Are they the owners of Graycliff????

Still confused a bit on graycliffs ...I looked at labels...most are from bahamas,though one I smoked tonight is from wherever and imo not as good....zr gifted me same exact stick his was good other was ok...

So you the graycliff expert?on graycliff site there are dealers....though some as much as 20 $ per stick...good yes worth 2 opus or anejos hell no...Where is the line on quality from site to site...Is paying way too much and goin through bahamas best bet?I really like em though its stupid imo to buy cigar it seems noone knows where made or what made of..too a degree....

I had several Platinums from a sampler. I note the Web site says Honduran now on those. They tasted good but poor construction. Unravelled. No way near worth the retail price.

The G2s I don't care for myself but got some cheap to give out. Very "grassy"

Ive had mainly sticks that do say Bahamas yet last night had one that did not...Although supposed to be same stick it surely was not the case

No. Do they work for graycliff?

I speak bluntly here, no offense intended to any fine BOTL or SOTL, no way to sugar coat and it's not my strong point or I'd be a politician blowing smoke rings up your arse and giving tummy rubs telling you what a special snow flake you are.

If you want a Graycliff go to an approved Graycliff retailer where the cigars are being purchased from Graycliff in the Bahamas and sold at retail just like if you want actual Opus X, Padrons, etc. you go looking for Opus X you expect to see the approved Opus X retailer placard framed hanging on the wall. CI has boxes of Graycliff and they're in the 20ish a cigar range $450ish a box. That's just how it is. Go to a shpo and you're paying the same or an outrageous mark up.

They're in the high end premium category, not cheap and if you want the real Graycliff cigars there's no cheap or bargain way to get them you're going to pony up to the tune of around $20 a cigar. Just like you would with a Padron - you don't see "steals" on boxes of Family Reserve, or a bargain on a box of Opus X. These are no different.
If your expecting to get them for $5 a cigar not going to happen, or your buying some rolled crap with nothing but a name on it only you're getting a knock off and something isn't right, ya get what you pay for period.

If you want Opus X, Padron or any top shelf premiums bargain hunting don't hunt.
Worth it? IMO yes, it's a matter of what you want, what you're willing to pay for and whether or not you're willing to try to dance around reality and expect to get the real product.
You wouldn't expect to get 18 year old McCallan scotch and be happy with a bargain price that gets you something that tastes like Cutty Sark would you?!

Graycliff only makes the cigars posted on their website. Cigars like the "platinum", "30 year", etc are made by other companies (or company). Graycliff licenses their name to other companies who make those cigars. I personally love the platinum and a few others I have had that Graycliff does not actually make. So, if the cigar is not listed on Graycliffs website, they do not make it.

Magic Johnson was the greatest but he caught the hiv.

And he's the biggest redass prick you'll ever meet!

met him, and you are right.

from the ages of about 12 to 15 we used to jump on the street cah Sunday afternoons, go to the Gahden for afternoon Celts games, pay for the cheapest seats and sit anywhere cuz they never drew in the regular season all those great years, then hang around for a while after to carry players bags to the parking lot hoping for autographs. Players from both teams were always so nice to us...except Bill. He had a well known thing that he refused to sign autographs for anyone, thought it enhanced his genius rep, but all he had to do was say no, or wave us off. Instead, he would look right through you in a way that made you feel insignificant, to put it kindly.

Fast forward to recent years and he realized he could make money being nice. Worked shows where he signed for money etc. My son-in-law (works for the C's) knew my story and managed to get him to sign inside a copy of his 2009 book "Red and Me"...to Frank- Best Wishes- Bill Russell". Still haven't read it, though I read the great Go Up for Glory several times as a kid.

Bad guy. But the greatest who ever put on a uniform, arguably in any team sport.