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Papa Fritas
QMPASH Offline
#1 Posted:
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Anyone smoke this baby? It's supposed to be a short version of LP, but made from "trimmings." So, it's a mixed filler and a short one at that (4.5 x 54.) They sell for a little over $6.00 a stick which seems a bit high for a mixed filler.

Confused
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted:
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Try 'em. But, try 'em before you read Cacman's reply (coming in 5, 4, 3, 2.....)

Make up your own mind. They're solid.
Speyside Offline
#3 Posted:
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They are trimmings from Liga Privada T9's. They are a good 1/2 hour smoke IMO. I do not smoke them often, but when I do they are enjoyable to me.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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They're a corona not a petite robusto.

Where'd you get those dimensions?
reckless Offline
#5 Posted:
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Tatuaje makes 4 different short filler smokes now all for under $12/5. Dont waste your money.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted:
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Illusione Rothschild also.
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted:
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I would add Tatuaje PCR is LONG FILLER and CHEAPER and BETTER.
jeferris Offline
#8 Posted:
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^ +1
reckless Offline
#9 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I would add Tatuaje PCR is LONG FILLER and CHEAPER and BETTER.

Thats still a 45min+ smoke though
jeferris Offline
#10 Posted:
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Tat Petit's....
dstieger Offline
#11 Posted:
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reckless wrote:
Tatuaje makes 4 different short filler smokes now all for under $12/5. Dont waste your money.


Cool. I've had the P, but it did nothing for me at all. What are the other three?
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted:
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So what if it's 45 mins??

It's still CHEAPER than the floor sweepings Unicos.
cacman Offline
#13 Posted:
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Drew Estate Announces Updated Liga Privada Papas Fritas Packaging
http://drewestate.com/press-release-drew-estate-announces-updated-liga-privada-papas-fritas-packaging/?ao_confirm?age-verified=8f6e868816

Helps reduce the MSRP to $5.25ea for Grade A floor trimmings!
LMFAO at the fools that fall for this cigar. Don't believe the hype!
There are so many better long-filler cigars available for a lot less!
Fuq DE & Swisher.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#14 Posted:
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There it is!! Lol!!Applause LOL
tonygraz Offline
#15 Posted:
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I bought one last year but I haven't tried it yet. I wonder if there will be a prize inside.

size should be 4.5 x 44
Whistlebritches Offline
#16 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Drew Estate Announces Updated Liga Privada Papas Fritas Packaging
http://drewestate.com/press-release-drew-estate-announces-updated-liga-privada-papas-fritas-packaging/?ao_confirm?age-verified=8f6e868816

Helps reduce the MSRP to $5.25ea for Grade A floor trimmings!
LMFAO at the fools that fall for this cigar. Don't believe the hype!
There are so many better long-filler cigars available for a lot less!
Fuq DE & Swisher.


I knew it was coming...........so I waited for you to express my sentiments to a "T"


Ron
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I think LP9's and T52's are worth $6/ea
Whistlebritches Offline
#18 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I think LP9's and T52's are worth $6/ea



$5 maybe..........They are not better than my AF Magnum R 44's and I get them for $5 and under by the box.


Ron
danmdevries Offline
#19 Posted:
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I like them, would buy if they were cheaper
QMPASH Offline
#20 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
They're a corona not a petite robusto.

Where'd you get those dimensions?

From the ad at the mothership. horse
99cobra2881 Offline
#21 Posted:
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Go look again.
QMPASH Offline
#22 Posted:
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Papas Fritas (Corona) (4.5"x44)
It's even smaller than I thought.. You are right.
sd72 Offline
#23 Posted:
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Now that that's all straightened out, whew!!!!, I'm still not buying any.
kombat96 Offline
#24 Posted:
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Another de stick that's promoted and produced as a turd. I think they finally got something right.
hinzna Offline
#25 Posted:
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I like chili cheese papas fritas myself.
tonygraz Offline
#26 Posted:
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Also good with Ketchup.
dstieger Offline
#27 Posted:
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I like 'em. They're a little high for regular consumption, however.
But, now that they're coming in cabs and unit price is being lowered, they are getting close to being appropriately priced.
KingoftheCove Offline
#28 Posted:
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cacman is full of crap........
I heard....from a reliable source........that he has a 25ct humi STUFFED with Papas Fritas..
and guess what he uses for humidification in said humi?
that's right................ kitty litter!
and he smokes those french fries on Friday nights with room temperature Schlitz...........
Mandoman Offline
#29 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
cacman is full of crap........
I heard....from a reliable source........that he has a 25ct humi STUFFED with Papas Fritas..
and guess what he uses for humidification in said humi?
that's right................ kitty litter!
and he smokes those french fries on Friday nights with room temperature Schlitz...........

Does he put ketchup on the French fries? Salt?
cacman Offline
#30 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
cacman is full of crap........
I heard....from a reliable source........that he has a 25ct humi STUFFED with Papas Fritas..
and guess what he uses for humidification in said humi?
that's right................ kitty litter!
and he smokes those french fries on Friday nights with room temperature Schlitz...........

LMAO!!!
I live in Colorado, where it's easier & cheaper to smoke "grass" than it is to smoke a cigar. Do you honestly believe I would stoop so low as to pay a premium price to smoke floor trimmings??? Especially from DE???

I do have a a cat, and she does use kitty litter. But I'm not cheap or fool enough to put that stuff in my humi. I keep my pet supplies far away from my smoking supplies.

It's not Friday, but will be smokin "something" this afternoon while doing a local brewery crawl. Prefer plain french fries with Ranch dressing on he side.

You only wish you could be here KOTC.
Herfing
99cobra2881 Offline
#31 Posted:
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Amazes me what 25 of these consistently sells for on here. Almost always in the $130 range. Lots better sell for much less.
dstieger Offline
#32 Posted:
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From overpriced thread to overbid thread in 31 posts. You guys are slackin
Philly Jack Offline
#33 Posted:
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I would go With Tatuaje Havana IV verccu #5 over the French fry I have papas and always by mid smoke I'm spitting bits of tobacco ruining my enjoyment. They are made from the garbage of the LP9 line and should have been cast into the waste bin.
dstieger Offline
#34 Posted:
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Really? I have NEVER had that problem with these. Unlike many (most?) short/med filler cigars....ever had a Fuente Curly Head - you spend the entire time spitting out tobacco flecks.

These are hardly floor scraps, garbage, etc....It's the table trimmings from LP's, some of the finest (and most expensive) cigar tobacco leaf in the world. The fact that they sort them and actually blend them into a cigar that has consistent flavor, holds its ash and doesn't flake in your mouth is fairly impressive...and not cheap to make.

So, as always, smoke what you like. I agree that these are a little pricey for me, but not extraordinarily so. I just don't understand the vitriol. If you don't like them, don't buy them.
Philly Jack Offline
#35 Posted:
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Half way to the end it's little bits of baccy almost every time and they is normal for short fill from everything I read on the subject short fill
Abrignac Offline
#36 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Really? I have NEVER had that problem with these. Unlike many (most?) short/med filler cigars....ever had a Fuente Curly Head - you spend the entire time spitting out tobacco flecks.

These are hardly floor scraps, garbage, etc....It's the table trimmings from LP's, some of the finest (and most expensive) cigar tobacco leaf in the world. The fact that they sort them and actually blend them into a cigar that has consistent flavor, holds its ash and doesn't flake in your mouth is fairly impressive...and not cheap to make.

So, as always, smoke what you like. I agree that these are a little pricey for me, but not extraordinarily so. I just don't understand the vitriol. If you don't like them, don't buy them.


So they are buying tobacco leaf from Gurkha now???
cacman Offline
#37 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Really? I have NEVER had that problem with these. Unlike many (most?) short/med filler cigars....ever had a Fuente Curly Head - you spend the entire time spitting out tobacco flecks.

These are hardly floor scraps, garbage, etc....It's the table trimmings from LP's, some of the finest (and most expensive) cigar tobacco leaf in the world. The fact that they sort them and actually blend them into a cigar that has consistent flavor, holds its ash and doesn't flake in your mouth is fairly impressive...and not cheap to make.

So, as always, smoke what you like. I agree that these are a little pricey for me, but not extraordinarily so. I just don't understand the vitriol. If you don't like them, don't buy them.

Trimmings are trimmings. They are made from scraps.
And saying they're made from some of the finest cigar tobacco in the world is completely subjective and fanboyish.
Fuente Curly Head's don't cost over $5ea either.
Abrignac Offline
#38 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Trimmings are trimmings. They are made from scraps.
And saying they're made from some of the finest cigar tobacco in the world is completely subjective and fanboyish.
Fuente Curly Head's don't cost over $5ea either.


Which IMHO is about $4 per too much.
danmdevries Offline
#39 Posted:
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Anyone that has some and does like em, ill buy any you've got in your humidor.

I like em, and when/if I can get em $4 or less, I do/will.
hinzna Offline
#40 Posted:
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Papas fritas ir curly heads?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#41 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Really? I have NEVER had that problem with these. Unlike many (most?) short/med filler cigars....ever had a Fuente Curly Head - you spend the entire time spitting out tobacco flecks.

These are hardly floor scraps, garbage, etc....It's the table trimmings from LP's, some of the finest (and most expensive) cigar tobacco leaf in the world. The fact that they sort them and actually blend them into a cigar that has consistent flavor, holds its ash and doesn't flake in your mouth is fairly impressive...and not cheap to make.

So, as always, smoke what you like. I agree that these are a little pricey for me, but not extraordinarily so. I just don't understand the vitriol. If you don't like them, don't buy them.



If something falls and hits the floor at a cigar production facility, it can't be reused, in fact it's not even supposed to be touched by anyone handling product. It stays there on the floor until the constantly circulating cleaning crew sweeps it up and throws it in the trash. This is how all the major/large facilities operate and most, if not all, of the small ones. It's not all that different from how food packing / processing plants are handled, really.

I don't know exactly how much the LP tobacco costs, but it does most certainly cost more than Fuente's tobacco. A large part of this is because DE isn't a grower and also because they are using some leaf that simply isn't cheap. Curly Heads are made from regular line trimmings which are chopped, possibly mechanically, down to rather small bits then hand finished. PFs are made from LP trim, there is some level of sorting and hand re-cutting that goes on, certainly not to the level of the long filler cigars, but more than many others get. As for the tobacco used, it's apples and oranges really, when Fuente releases a Curly Head made from Anejo or Opus X trim, then it will be a legit comparison, until that point, it's like comparing a burger trimmed and ground in house at a steakhouse to a burger from some place like Applebee's.
zody Offline
#42 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Really? I have NEVER had that problem with these. Unlike many (most?) short/med filler cigars....ever had a Fuente Curly Head - you spend the entire time spitting out tobacco flecks.

These are hardly floor scraps, garbage, etc....It's the table trimmings from LP's, some of the finest (and most expensive) cigar tobacco leaf in the world. The fact that they sort them and actually blend them into a cigar that has consistent flavor, holds its ash and doesn't flake in your mouth is fairly impressive...and not cheap to make.

So, as always, smoke what you like. I agree that these are a little pricey for me, but not extraordinarily so. I just don't understand the vitriol. If you don't like them, don't buy them.


^^+1
Smoke and buy what you like, pass by what ya don't. Brick wall
zody Offline
#43 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Drew Estate Announces Updated Liga Privada Papas Fritas Packaging
http://drewestate.com/press-release-drew-estate-announces-updated-liga-privada-papas-fritas-packaging/?ao_confirm?age-verified=8f6e868816

Helps reduce the MSRP to $5.25ea for Grade A floor trimmings!
LMFAO at the fools that fall for this cigar. Don't believe the hype!
There are so many better long-filler cigars available for a lot less!
Fuq DE & Swisher.


Anyone remember Scanners, right before that guy's head explodes? LOL
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#44 Posted:
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zody wrote:
Anyone remember Scanners, right before that guy's head explodes? LOL


LOL
cacman Offline
#45 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
If something falls and hits the floor at a cigar production facility, it can't be reused, in fact it's not even supposed to be touched by anyone handling product.

What about the 5-second rule?
Just like in the kitchen, just because it doesn't hit the floor doesn't mean it's suitable to serve.

Always preferred the movie "Brainstorm" with Natalie Wood. She was hot!

Smoked a Jericho Hill Shot between visiting 4 breweries. Damn good cigar!
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#46 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
What about the 5-second rule?
Just like in the kitchen, just because it doesn't hit the floor doesn't mean it's suitable to serve.


Meh, opinions vary.
Bur Offline
#47 Posted:
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QMPASH wrote:
Papas Fritas (Corona) (4.5"x44)
It's even smaller than I thought.. You are right.


How'd that slip through without snide comments?

Unless it really is that small.....
Speyside Offline
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Haters gonna hate. If you like it smoke it. Your palate is all that matters.
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Speyside wrote:
Haters gonna hate. If you like it smoke it. Your palate is all that matters.

sooosh it noop
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