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I miss George Dubbya Bush
tailgater Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
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What a whiny cry-fest.

Maybe we should allow more days off from work or from school to mewl over last Novembers election.

TW is right. It isn't funny.
We used to have self respect regardless of who sat in the oval office.
Now we feel it's OK to blame an election for personal failures and low self esteem.

Trump is a clown. I get it. And I agree. But it isn't an embarrassment. It's a statement.
We WANT a clown rather than the circus act that occupies DC already.

And in the meantime we might fix a few things that need fixing.
Jobs.
Trade.
And yes, immigration.

I'm willing to hold my nose over the rest of the stuff.







burnem2 Offline
#52 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
The deplorables elected someone that would make them look good.


FU. .....you name calling biotch!!
RMAN4443 Offline
#53 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
The deplorables elected someone that would make them look good.



I was "deplorable" for years before it became a status symbol. Confused
xibbumbero Offline
#54 Posted:
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Dubya is a genius compared to this ass-clown. X Frying pan
tonygraz Offline
#55 Posted:
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burnem2 wrote:
FU. .....you name calling biotch!!


Yogurt man apprentice - dumber than dog chit.
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted:
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Hillary lost... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted:
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Drafter sure loves him some trump.
dkeage Offline
#58 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter sure loves him some not hilldog

DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted:
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True. .. true. .. Mellow


Under Hilldog your paycheck would be less, the borders would be open and citizenship would be granted to all illegals... plus wefare and health care and stuff. .. Mellow
dkeage Offline
#60 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
True. .. true. .. Mellow


Under Hilldog your paycheck would be less, the borders would be open and citizenship would be granted to all illegals... plus wefare and health care and stuff. .. Mellow



I'm with you bud. Plus my avatar could kick yours ass....


Beer
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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Maybe. .. I stole my avatar, with his permission, from Jack years ago... reminded me of a local lab named Jake. .. he took really good care of my Golden Retriever Goldielocks. ... RIP Jake. ... Sad
burnem2 Offline
#62 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Yogurt man apprentice - dumber than dog chit.


YO MOMMA!!!
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted:
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wears combat boots..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted:
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Russian combat boots
DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted:
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Are they worse than Jack boots..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#66 Posted:
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Union Jack ? Tailgater won't like that.
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#67 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
And yes - "W" was better....



Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
SteveS Offline
#68 Posted:
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Well, we're getting pretty much what I expected from Trump ... I'd not anticipated that the media would be so relentless in portraying him in the worst light possible and they're doing all they can to make it seem worse than it actually is ... you can bet your a** they would not have done anything even remotely like this to the pant-suited one if she'd prevailed, just as they did little or nothing to hold Obummer accountable for the destruction and extreme divisiveness he caused ...
victor809 Offline
#69 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
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... come on Steve. How is any of this a media problem? Is the evil left wing media forcing Trump to tweet asinine sh@t?

Keep making excuses for your cheeto in chief...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#70 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
... come on Steve. How is any of this a media problem? Is the evil left wing media forcing Trump to tweet asinine sh@t?

Keep making excuses for your cheeto in chief...



I didn't see what SteveS posted as an "excuse" for the President. At all.

You go girl.
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted:
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"Oh deary me! The media is being so harrrrrdddd on our wonderful orange savior! It isn't like he could possibly be doing any number of horribly stupid things! No! It's totally just that left wing media being harrrrdddd on poor widdle twumpy. They just don't know that being president is harrrddd... they would totally give Hillary so much slack if she were president and tweeting the stupidest **** ever."

... where's that eyeroll emoji again?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#72 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
where's that eyeroll emoji again?



That broke YEARS ago reading your rants!
TMCTLT Offline
#73 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
"Oh deary me! The media is being so harrrrrdddd on our wonderful orange savior! It isn't like he could possibly be doing any number of horribly stupid things! No! It's totally just that left wing media being harrrrdddd on poor widdle twumpy. They just don't know that being president is harrrddd... they would totally give Hillary so much slack if she were president and tweeting the stupidest **** ever."

... where's that eyeroll emoji again?




I don't know about anyone else....but I find it absolutely DELICIOUS that he is able to get you so worked up!!!!!

And Steve IS right....


Boo hoo!
Gene363 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Wow, I thought it was a flood, but it's just tears. jester
tonygraz Offline
#75 Posted:
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Anybody studying Russian ?
tailgater Offline
#76 Posted:
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I need ear muffs to read this thread. What, with all the shrill high pitched whining going on.

Let it be noted: April is 5 months after the election. Yet the tears still flow.
We joke about the "everyone gets a trophy" attitude. But the snowflakes in all reality can not accept the fact that they lost.
It's pathetic.
Yet funny.


Best part about it?
The argument from both sides has merit.

Trump is a fool on his twitter machine. He hasn't yet grasped the fact that he is supposed to govern, not manage.
But the media is absolutely the catalyst that motivates the left.
They are only intent on finding fault with anything he does or say, and they ignore anything positive.

So keep talking about his spray tan. Or his tweets. Or where his wife lives. Or how someone sits on a couch. Or all the other "important" stuff. Like being mad at Russia because they MIGHT have exposed the ACTUAL disgrace that is the democrat party.
Just try to keep it a couple octaves lower. For sanity's sake.


victor809 Offline
#77 Posted:
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Keep calling it tears tail.

Reread my posts. I am mocking the idiot that you, yogurt head and Steve seem to love so much. I'm not crying about it. I'm enjoying it. It shows exactly what level of an idiot is able to con you into believing they can run a country (and stop twittering! Hah! You remember when he told his fan base just how super presidential he was gonna be once the election ended? Yeah... they fell for that one too!)

Calling it crybabies or pretending this is in any way related to "participation trophies" is just you trying to take attention away from just how horrendously, and hilariously bad he has been so far.

Be a man. Own up to how stupid the tweeter in chief is. Acknowledge how much golf he is going to play... how much business he's going to funnel to his own resort in Florida while costing all of us more to secure him... while his trophy wife purposely lives in another residence costing us even more... and his grown son and daughter get government staff positions (while supposedly managing his "arms length" assets)...

But no... because he has an "R" by his party you're gonna be super serious about this and pretend he's actually a real president....
teedubbya Offline
#78 Posted:
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I'm just embarrassed by the hot mess who to quote Dennis Green is who we thought he was. If embarrassed translates to sad for some so be it. I can actually understand why some that voted for him are so defensive. It goes back to the embarrassed thing.... except for Tail... he wanted to have a clown in the whitehouse...

ya but hillary
opelmanta1900 Offline
#79 Posted:
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still trying to figure out what started this thread... the president is embarassing himself (in your eyes) on twitter? what does that have to do with him running the country?

I'm all ears when people have actual concerns about actual policies that have actually been enacted... but all this crybaby stuff over a grown man's twitter account?

what do you watch? or read? who's getting all up in your head about the president's tweets? how do you even know what he tweets?

teedubbya Offline
#80 Posted:
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My answer to your question before still applies. *shrug*

If missin dubbya is wrong I don't wanna be right.
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm not nieve enough to miss the political lies and stretching of truth that have always existed.

This is very different. This is constant lies about everything big and small and blatantly provable lies. They are trying to create an alternate reality. Blatantly.

It's not about royalty. We don't have royalty. It is about respect for the office though.




You said you really don't watch the news. I'm not going to recreate the list. If you want to it will be easy to find.
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted:
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Hell... just this am Trump tweeted this:
"Did Hillary Clinton ever apologize for receiving the answers to the debate? Just asking!"

... this doesn't strike anyone else as crybaby stuff from a cheeto that should be focused on trying to accomplish something... anything?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#83 Posted:
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WHY DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT TWEET????!!!!
victor809 Offline
#84 Posted:
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.... he's the president of the United States.
What he tweets is actual news, whether you like it or not.

Imagine, if he were a normally functioning president, like one which had a vocabulary of a high school student, this would be the equivalent to making a statement to the press. But with cheeto boy we get tweets.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#85 Posted:
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It's not news... at all... anymore than obama golfing was news... it's what the "other side" does during their off season... you're enslaved to the liberal news media... you read everything they tell you and then go around and insist that what they've told you is "news"... you're no different than the fox news crowd...
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted:
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I get that his tweets and the lies they usually contain should be ignored by all but his tweet subscribers and they should be allowed their alternative facts rather than being refuted. The prez should be able to communicate anything he wants to his followers and it should just be acceptable. Sarcasm

here is a non tweet used to drive part of his agenda. And there are many many more examples..... but if you are not watching or paying attention you don't care enough to re litigate the whole list again.


"The murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right?" Trump said. "Did you know that? Forty-seven years. I used to use that -- I’d say that in a speech and everybody was surprised, because the press doesn’t tell it like it is. It wasn’t to their advantage to say that. But the murder rate is the highest it’s been in, I guess, from 45 to 47 years."


you don't pay attention and are thus not embarrassed. Cool by me. At least you are honest.



Having the white house call the chair of an intel committee to the white house to brief them on something supposedly supporting something the Prez accused another Prez of, then having the committee chair come back to brief the white house on it is definitely clown car-ish.... but if you don't pay attention to it maybe it doesn't really exist
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted:
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I really don't care about the mechanism of communication. If the President claims something it should be scrutinized regardless of party.

I'm also a big advocate of doing the opposite of what you say Opel. Consume or devour as much news as you can from all sides (liberal or conservative). I watch a lot of Fox and CNN (I do watch Morning Joe on MSNBC as well as Fox and CNN morning stuff but thats about the only MSNBC I watch) but I sprinkle in a few of the papers like the posts, the journal etc. And if you look at my browser history you'd see I am on drudge just as often. then you make up your own mind.


I think folks like SteveS see Trump for what he is but could not fathom Hillary. I respect that. I'm not too far off of that. I don't get the true Trump supporters. I don't understand how anyone could support the hot mess other than the ya but... excuse.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#88 Posted:
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why is that embarassing to you? Even if it was an outright lie, how does that embarass YOU?

seriously, how does that lie get down to where you are so that it can embarass you? Are you afraid some tourists are gonna point at you and laugh?

and how is that lie different than every other lie that has consistently been told by every single president we've ever had?

here are some things to actually be embarassed about:

1. Our countries ballooning debt
2. Laws on the books that aren't enforced
3. 1 in 4 Google searches is for pornography
4. The divorce rate
5. America's obsession with Hollywood
6. Drafter
opelmanta1900 Offline
#89 Posted:
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what I mean to say in all that is, if the president never tweets again I still won't be any less embarassed by this country... he and his tweets - like most all politics - are just another distraction from issues that actually matter... like drafter...
teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted:
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As for the media being the enemy of the people.... nonsense.... but they are biased and always have been. I don't need Citizen Kane and it's repercussions to teach me that.

Perhaps if Trump really wants to make that case he should quit lying about everything big and small and really take it on. Otherwise if he is less honest than them it loses it's effect and really becomes about establishing an alternative set of "facts" to suit his needs and villifying them for the same reason. Sure they are not a very sympathetic crowd but it's still flat out garbage. Starting with birtherism and breitbart isn't really the best way to be the voice of truth and reason taking on the big bad press. Folks hate the press so accept the garbage from him. It's embarrassing.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#91 Posted:
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doesn't really sound like your problem is with trump... it's with gullible people...
teedubbya Offline
#92 Posted:
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I've given you a few example why I find him embarrassing (he is my President and I accept that.... which is why it is embarrassing). You focus on tweets. I don't. I don't care about the mechanism.



I am proud of my country but embarrassed about our current President.
teedubbya Offline
#93 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
doesn't really sound like your problem is with trump... it's with gullible people...



hard to separate. its why we have him (and before someone else says it... Obama). But I do have a problem with Trump. I hated him before he ran. He is and always will be who he always has been back to the days of listening to his fueds with AJ Benza (or whoever), Rosie etc. I just cant believe anyone actually voted for him, many of which despise everything he ever stood for personally and politically until he just recently switched from D to R. Now he's great.
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#94 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I've given you a few example why I find him embarrassing (he is my President and I accept that.... which is why it is embarrassing). You focus on tweets. I don't. I don't care about the mechanism.



I am proud of my country but embarrassed about our current President.

No no no... my focus is absolutely not on tweets... it's on results, and as I've stated, I'm all ears if someone wants to talk about those... so far it's just been a bunch of crying about a lack of royalty...
teedubbya Offline
#95 Posted:
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I don't want royalty, but I do want respect for the office. royalty is entitlement to me and at times over history is handed to petulant children. I don't want that.
teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted:
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And I am not crying.... embarrassed yes, crying no. If we want to elect Carrie as home coming queen because we WANT a clown in office my one vote won't stop it, and it's the way our country works.


If I was to cry it would have been during the primaries when my party failed miserably and nominated this buffoon meaning we would end up with him or hillary. That was sad.
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#97 Posted:
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it seems to me you either get one or the other...

you can get a "king" who does all the right things, says all the right things, always takes the perfect pictures, and maintains a positive approval rating... of course, he'll have to accomplish nothing in order to do so...

or you can get a policy maker who's essentially going to be a bully, who comes off as brash, arrogant, and disrespectful, and who pisses off people on both sides of the political aisle and most of the media... but that guys gonna get some stuff done...
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#98 Posted:
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Trump's my president. But I don't have to like him.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#99 Posted:
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You do and you will!
teedubbya Offline
#100 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
it seems to me you either get one or the other...

you can get a "king" who does all the right things, says all the right things, always takes the perfect pictures, and maintains a positive approval rating... of course, he'll have to accomplish nothing in order to do so...

or you can get a policy maker who's essentially going to be a bully, who comes off as brash, arrogant, and disrespectful, and who pisses off people on both sides of the political aisle and most of the media... but that guys gonna get some stuff done...



I disagree with this completely. I don't think we've really had any royalty in my day. Some romanticize JFK after the fact but I don't know anything contemporaneously about him.


My main point of reference is prolly Nixon forward but have formally studied backwards from there. I don't recall your version of someone being King and doing nothing while everyone loved them. And I am not familiar with anyone Trump resembles.

I don't want royalty but I do want decency, integrity and a little bit of the truth here and there, (knowing a little bit of history royalty doesn't always give us this but can give us the Anglican church LOL). I don't think you have to be a petulant lying child to get things done. On the contrary.
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