America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 2 months ago by tailgater. 127 replies replies.
3 Pages<123>
Good Lord... I understand now...
Abrignac Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 12,924
Burner02 wrote:
Will have to admit the former Gov Bentley was involved.


A Bama herf sounds like a great idea and maybe we can make it happen in the near future.


I could probably ease that way for a herf.
Buckwheat Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 10,742
DrafterX wrote:
Why Dems hate Trump so much.... Just watched some CBS News.. Made Trump look like this huge flip-flopper without even a hint of explanation on about half a dozen topics or more... then they go into the Texas voter ID law and say Iit was created to keep blacks from voting.. no pproof of course but that didn't stop them from saying it a dozen times... talk about brainwashing.. d'oh! .


So the news has to backup what they say but the administration doesn't? Alt facts, large scale voter fraud, etc... horse
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
The intent was to deceive. ..much like Obama & Hillary.. or Hillbama for short.. Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 10,742
DrafterX wrote:
The intent was to deceive. ..much like Obama & Hillary.. or Hillbama for short.. Mellow


I agree with you that Trump's lies are intended to deceive much like other politicians. horse
delta1 Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 10,410
Are liberals the only ones capable of voter fraud? Seems so, as the GOP uses that as an excuse to put up barriers to voting...
frankj1 Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 16,120
delta1 wrote:
Are liberals the only ones capable of voter fraud? Seems so, as the GOP uses that as an excuse to put up barriers to voting...

I seem to recall the one lady caught voting twice voted for trump both times...
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 19,435
frankj1 wrote:
I seem to recall the one lady caught voting twice voted for trump both times...


See what you get for letting women vote?

SmokeMonkey Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
Lol!
SmokeMonkey Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
Burner02 wrote:
A Bama herf sounds like a great idea and maybe we can make it happen in the near future.


I'll pm Eric over the next few days. He's been scarce here, so likely very busy. Then we'll see what we can do.
Burner02 Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 8,144
Appears bad news coming out of Lake Tuscaloosa according to AL.com.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#61 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
Wow, just looked. That's tragic.
DrafterX Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
What happened .?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#63 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 8,448
Two women found dead - don't you have internet ?
frankj1 Offline
#64 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 16,120
tailgater wrote:
See what you get for letting women vote?


common ground, buddy!
Burner02 Offline
#65 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 8,144
Abrignac wrote:
I could probably ease that way for a herf.



Even better!
SmokeMonkey Offline
#66 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
Burner02 wrote:
Even better!


+1
DrafterX Offline
#67 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
Trump Tax March..?? Do these people really not have anything else to do..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#68 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 16,120
probably just finished filing their own taxes, so that does free up some time
SteveS Offline
#69 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,338
I wanna see Nancy Pelosis' tax return ... how the hell did she get to be one of the richest people in congress when the only 'job' she's ever had in her entire life is hold elective office?
RMAN4443 Offline
#70 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 892
SteveS wrote:
I wanna see Nancy Pelosis' tax return ... how the hell did she get to be one of the richest people in congress when the only 'job' she's ever had in her entire life is hold elective office?


Insider trading, pay to play, quid pro quo, bribes........all of the above? Hard telling not knowing Think
Lots of ways to pick up a little extra cash as a career politician.
DrafterX Offline
#71 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
Alot came from inside trading... she was allowed to sit in secret meetings and stuff... Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 8,144
SteveS wrote:
I wanna see Nancy Pelosis' tax return ... how the hell did she get to be one of the richest people in congress when the only 'job' she's ever had in her entire life is hold elective office?



Don't be asking questions, some will see this as deflecting.
victor809 Offline
#73 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
... I don't think you understand what deflection is.
Burner02 Offline
#74 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 8,144
victor809 wrote:
... I don't think you understand what deflection is.



No need to check the who gives a sh*t app on this one.
MACS Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
gummy jones wrote:
Blacks are too dumb to get an id I guess? Speaking of racist things...


Have to have an ID to drive, buy cigarettes, buy alcohol, cash checks, create a bank account, and do any number of things, but if you're required to have one to vote it's racist.

Can anyone please explain this to me so that I may understand it? Because it makes absolutely NO SENSE to a rational person.
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
Don't be obtuse macs. Any requirement can be racist or not racist.

SAT testing was initially put in place to reduce Jewish participation in colleges, because they thought Aryans would do better. Is knowledge of math and English racist? No. But if you're implementing a requirement with the intention of reducing participation by one race or another...

The simple fact that the reason given for requiring a license (rampant voter fraud) is not proven anywhere makes one suspicious.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#77 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 5,270
So if they changed the reason to "minor voter fraud" you'd be cool with it?
victor809 Offline
#78 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
Meh.. it seems like unnecessary restrictions. As someone who thinks we have too much regulation this seems like a solution without a problem. Or at least without a problem that anyone is willing to admit to.
victor809 Offline
#79 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
But I understand if more government involvement is your thing...
MACS Offline
#80 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
My point is we are ALL required to have ID for all the things I listed. How is requiring one to vote any different. Hell, my friend was homeless (his choice) for 2 years... and he had an ID.

The only people that don't have ID's are homless. How do you rent an apartment without one? How do you go through life without an ID unless you're homeless?

You can't have a job. Or a bank account. Or make any major purchase... etc. I'm not being obtuse, you are.
DrafterX Offline
#81 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
Racist... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.
DrafterX Offline
#83 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
I bet you still carried the expired pic ID tho... many places won't let you use a credit card without showing an pic ID... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#84 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 5,270
victor809 wrote:
You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.

but that proves the point of the other side... you didn't have an id because you were lazy...
victor809 Offline
#85 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
That's fair. But I also didn't do it because it really wasn't convenient and I had other things of higher priority. Why would I want to have to figure out how to get to a dmv when didn't need a driver's license for anything I did. I can understand if someone had things like a kid and bad job wouldn't have time at all to do that. Especially if they worked during dmv hours. Now that doesn't mean it discriminates against one race specifically... but it does discriminate against the working poor in urban areas (where cars aren't a necessity)... and apparently rural areas of Alabama according to monkey...
MACS Offline
#86 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
^How do those people have bank accounts? Cash checks? Buy booze? Tobacco products? Apply for food stamps? Apply for welfare? Apply for unemployment? Medicaid, or social security or SSDI? Pick up prescriptions?

The excuse that poor people are more adversely affected is plain and simple Bull Sheet. If they're so poor they receive benefits... they need an ID to apply for them.
MACS Offline
#87 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
And now I shall drop the microphone.
victor809 Offline
#88 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
1 - not everyone who is poor receives benefits. I'm surprised you're only concerned about the poor who leech off the system but don't care about those who might not.
2 - I already pointed out how one could have a bank account. I had one for probably 7+ years without having an id.
3- it's even easier these days to cash a check without id. I cash my checks over the phone or through an atm. What sort of 20th century tools do you use?
4- buy booze or tobacco? You now are only concerned about the poor who smoke and drink...? Or are young enough to get carded for smoking and drinking?...

Might want to pick that Mic up. I don't think you're done with it.

There's a simple pattern here. Your average suburbanite assumes everyone needs a driver's license... because they can't imagine living their life without one. But there are a lot of people who can live without one.. I think the gfs driver's license has expired since we moved to SF and she doesn't want a CA License... so she fits in that now.

But urban areas are where one party does well and another party does poorly. So of course they're both going to tell you how much the other side is lying and just wants to cheat the system. In that situation I'm going to default to less regulation not more. But you go ahead with your desire for big government.

As for monkeys example ice got no idea... I don't know how things work in the deep south... But that sh1t seems questionable as hell
MACS Offline
#89 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
Sorry, Victor. The mic was dropped... once dropped, it can't be picked up.
victor809 Offline
#90 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 12,164
Well... then you're gonna look pretty stupid standing there in front of a Mic on the ground...

...but maybe the federal government can make a regulation or something to help you out.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#91 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
victor809 wrote:

As for monkeys example ice got no idea... I don't know how things work in the deep south... But that sh1t seems questionable as hell


It was indeed, which is why, in the face of a couple of investigations, the offices in question were reopened. My point was, that whether it was by design or a fortuitous coincidence, either side can and will take action to deter the other. It's not just the GOP (as I pointed out further down), it just happened to be in this case.
DrafterX Offline
#92 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
I think there's a difference between not wanting one and not being able to get one... everyone can get one..
now if you want to use that as an excuse for not being able to vote I have no sympathy... I don't care what your situation is, elections are 4 years apart.. that's a hell of a long time and a bunch excuses for not getting it done... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#93 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2008
Posts: 8,448
Not too long ago you could get killed going into the south and trying to get people registered to vote.
tailgater Offline
#94 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 19,435
victor809 wrote:
You need an ID to initiate that. But not to maintain it. There was a time in my life, many years in fact, when I owned a home, worked, had bank accounts and did not have a "valid" government ID... my old drivers license had expired and I had no reason to get a new one in the state I was living. If that state had required a photo IDto vote it would have been an unnecessary hindrance to me.


I thought you were white?
DrafterX Offline
#95 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
tonygraz wrote:
Not too long ago you could get killed going into the south and trying to get people registered to vote.



Irrelevant... Mellow

But since you brought it up... why are we allowed to recruit..?? knock door to door and offer free beers and a BigMac to people in exchange for a voting in an election they don't give a chit about in the first place... Not talking
tailgater Offline
#96 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 19,435
MACS wrote:
Sorry, Victor. The mic was dropped... once dropped, it can't be picked up.


Kinda like soap in the shower?

SmokeMonkey Offline
#97 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 3,148
tailgater wrote:
I thought you were white?


Tail, I literally lol-ed at this!
delta1 Offline
#98 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 10,410
My mother-in-law registered her two kids (my wife and brother-in-law) when they became of voting age in the 1980's. For years she would send in three absentee ballots, for herself and her two kids. She was a staunch Rep, as were all her friends at the American Association of University Women. Her friends in the AAUW, at least the 4-5 who played cards with my MIL and had kids, did the same. Eventually, when the kids moved out, she stopped, but the kids had been indoctrinated and are GOP........voter fraud?
DrafterX Offline
#99 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 75,581
If the kids didn't sign them yes... Mellow
MACS Offline
#100 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 60,271
delta1 wrote:
My mother-in-law registered her two kids (my wife and brother-in-law) when they became of voting age in the 1980's. For years she would send in three absentee ballots, for herself and her two kids. She was a staunch Rep, as were all her friends at the American Association of University Women. Her friends in the AAUW, at least the 4-5 who played cards with my MIL and had kids, did the same. Eventually, when the kids moved out, she stopped, but the kids had been indoctrinated and are GOP........voter fraud?


Yeah, I'd say so, unless her kids were aware and okay with it.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
3 Pages<123>