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Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:15 PM EST
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Well this is just as aggravating to ya'll is it is to me.

But my body and strength profile has changed yet again.

Maybe I'm smoking too many cigars maybe my cigars are to fresh.

Both humidors are holding steady at 64%

But everything I usually smoke just isn't producing enough smoke, drawing to tight or not enough strength or body.

So I pulled out a cigar that was an unbanned mystery stick.

Full strength and body. Just what the doctor ordered.

I have been dry boxing a couple of cigars and smoking them a couple days later, just to suffice.

Even smoking them alittle and leaving them in the ashtray till the next day.

any recommendations of some heavy hitters will be greatly appreciated.

Any that you have gifted me already, tell me to smoke it, if it's a heavy hitter.

I'm averaging about 3 sticks a day.

Maybe 60% is where I need to be.

Abrignac Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:20 PM EST
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Cigars that don't produce much smoke tend to be rolled a bit too tight. Try rolling them around in your hand to loosen them up a bit. Your humidity is right in the sweet spot.
illinichaser Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:22 PM EST
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As far as strong/ peppery, give the LFD's a shot, or the LG small batch. I enjoy those. . .
reckless Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:23 PM EST
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Double check you hydrometer? My humi is at 62% and my sticks have never smoked better.
Mithrandir Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 3:27 PM EST
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Dry boxing to me is a science and each cigar reacts so much differently. When I first did this I kept copious notes re: cigar, box type, ambient temp (crazy seasons up here in western ny), how much time and the result. This may sound dumb but if it's a $12 cigar then I prefer not to leave anything to chance....I'm frugal (cheap)Herfing
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 4:23 PM EST
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illinichaser wrote:
As far as strong/ peppery, give the LFD's a shot, or the LG small batch. I enjoy those. . .

Will do! Thanks bud.


I have 65 heartfelts in both. Like to keep them on the drier side.
My fancy gold credo bar humidifiers are filled. I glued the plastic screen to the front and back on the inside. Removed the credo and drilled a hole on the top so I could funnel in the beads and then plugged the hole with a little rubber plug.

Work great. A lot of open surface area.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 4:24 PM EST
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Mithrandir wrote:
Dry boxing to me is a science and each cigar reacts so much differently. When I first did this I kept copious notes re: cigar, box type, ambient temp (crazy seasons up here in western ny), how much time and the result. This may sound dumb but if it's a $12 cigar then I prefer not to leave anything to chance....I'm frugal (cheap)Herfing


We think alike.
danmdevries Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 4:38 PM EST
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What I've learned from reading and just starting to see with experience is a couple weeks isnt even enough.

Bought 3 LGC from my b&m last fall. First one was tight, stingy on the smoke and bitter. Had one a month ago, still tight but better smoke. Noted it was less spongy feeling behind the foot while smoking. Still could see some swelling behind the ash though.

Smoked the last one today. Still a slightly firm draw, but in the perfect range for me. No swelling behind the coal, no bitterness, ample smoke.

Some have been perfect rott or straight from b&m but I suspect the latter have sat longer.

Was having consistent issues like yours when I had 70% beads too.

I think most has to do with time.

How are you cutting your cigars? Cut/punch/vcut/teeth?

Are your problem cigars ones you bought or ones you've received in trade? IME, my traded gars have almost all been perfect in regards to construction and storage issues. Had a couple that the blend didn't agree with me but no fault of anyones.

Let em sit, let em rest at least a couple months. If you have more than one and you find you had performance issues, let it sit a couple months and come back to it.
cacman Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 4:38 PM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
any recommendations of some heavy hitters will be greatly appreciated.

Tatuaje, My Father, Cromagnon, 7-20-4
That should help get you started.
erjaq Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 5:11 PM EST
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Hold on now, weren't you asking for mild, coffee-infused sticks from me in the PiB just a few months ago?
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 5:36 PM EST
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erjaq wrote:
Hold on now, weren't you asking for mild, coffee-infused sticks from me in the PiB just a few months ago?


Ya'll corrupted me.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 5:42 PM EST
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Tatuaje Fausto
JdN Dark Corojo
JdN Antonio 1970
Surrogates Skullcrusher
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 5:44 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
What I've learned from reading and just starting to see with experience is a couple weeks isnt even enough.

Bought 3 LGC from my b&m last fall. First one was tight, stingy on the smoke and bitter. Had one a month ago, still tight but better smoke. Noted it was less spongy feeling behind the foot while smoking. Still could see some swelling behind the ash though.

Smoked the last one today. Still a slightly firm draw, but in the perfect range for me. No swelling behind the coal, no bitterness, ample smoke.

Some have been perfect rott or straight from b&m but I suspect the latter have sat longer.

Was having consistent issues like yours when I had 70% beads too.

I think most has to do with time.

How are you cutting your cigars? Cut/punch/vcut/teeth?

Are your problem cigars ones you bought or ones you've received in trade? IME, my traded gars have almost all been perfect in regards to construction and storage issues. Had a couple that the blend didn't agree with me but no fault of anyones.

Let em sit, let em rest at least a couple months. If you have more than one and you find you had performance issues, let it sit a couple months and come back to it.


Yes the ones I've purchased are the ones giving me fits. I didn't notice it at first. I guess I have become picky.
All the gifted ones are perfect as well but I try to keep those for special occasions.

I use a double guillotine. But if that don't do it I just get frustrated and rip it off below the shoulder with my teeth.

Im a big Pepin buff. And had noticed it on the last ones I've smoked of them as well.

Sounds like my issue is freshness. I need to let them rest a couple more months

Hence the saying: Don't be hasty waiting makes tasty.
marc palanzo Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 6:55 PM EST
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+1 on the Fausto.
edin508 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 7:08 PM EST
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Punisher
knokmdwn Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 7:35 PM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
Yes the ones I've purchased are the ones giving me fits. I didn't notice it at first. I guess I have become picky.
All the gifted ones are perfect as well but I try to keep those for special occasions.

I use a double guillotine. But if that don't do it I just get frustrated and rip it off below the shoulder with my teeth.

Im a big Pepin buff. And had noticed it on the last ones I've smoked of them as well.

Sounds like my issue is freshness. I need to let them rest a couple more months

Hence the saying: Don't be hasty waiting makes tasty.



Most of the ones you buy, especially from here and the mothership, are shipped pretty wet generally. I think you just need to let them equalize with what you already have before you smoke them. Of course that may take a month or so once you receive them.

I run all my humis at 59->60 rh and most everything smokes very well if it's a good roll. Cigars take on and give off rh pretty slowly unless you leave them out in extreme weather so you gatta just be patient. Good excuse to buy a few more cigars so you can start getting them acclimated well in advance. d'oh!
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Mar 31 2014, 11:54 PM EST
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+1 for cacman's and zrx's suggestions.

Also the Diesel Unholy Cocktail and MOW PA. As a generality, the cigars produced in Nicaragua, DPG and My Father come to mind, tend to be strong and peppery.
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