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Ring Gauge
danmdevries Offline
#1 Posted:
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When I first got into cigars I wasn't smoking anything much smaller than a 60.

I steered clear of the slimmer ones because I was afraid of burning them and ruining the cigar with too hard too fast a draw. After doing a few trades here, I've a well rounded assortment of sizes and ive just recently started smoking some of the narrow ring sizes.

But I'm not getting the hot burned tar flavor that I was getting if I drew too hard or too often on others.

Are slimmer sticks more resistant due to greater surface area to filler ratio? Or am I subconsciously taking it easy on them?

Am I misinterpreting the experience or was my initial impression incorrect? Can you draw more frequently on a 40 ring than a 60 and avoid the heat?
danmdevries Offline
#2 Posted:
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Tl;dr - can you draw more often on a slim stick than a fat one without burning and ruining the flavors?
reckless Offline
#3 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Tl;dr - can you draw more often on a slim stick than a fat one without burning and ruining the flavors?

You should take your time with all cigars... a good rule is a puff every 30 seconds or so.
Palama Offline
#4 Posted:
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Because I could never really commit to 2+ hours to smoke a cigar, I've always been more of a 50 or less RG guy. Then I read that some blenders use corona size cigars to fine tune their blends so pretty much sealed it for me. I also find smaller RGs easier to keep lit. When herfing I find myself retouching bigger smoke more than coronas...but maybe that's just me.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#5 Posted:
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I too thought the bigger sticks were better but have since whittled down to smoking mostly smaller RG. I have been on a lancero tear lately and found some excellent ones.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted:
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Depends on the maker...the blend...the way it was stored..the way it was cut and the manner in which it's being smoked.

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danmdevries Offline
#7 Posted:
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Guess its all in my head then.

It has opened my eyes to different sizes, and ive learned how to get more enjoyment from my cigars.

Still learning, thanks guys.
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
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danmdevries wrote:
When I first got into cigars I wasn't smoking anything much smaller than a 60.

I steered clear of the slimmer ones because I was afraid of burning them and ruining the cigar with too hard too fast a draw. After doing a few trades here, I've a well rounded assortment of sizes and ive just recently started smoking some of the narrow ring sizes.

But I'm not getting the hot burned tar flavor that I was getting if I drew too hard or too often on others.

Are slimmer sticks more resistant due to greater surface area to filler ratio? Or am I subconsciously taking it easy on them?

Am I misinterpreting the experience or was my initial impression incorrect? Can you draw more frequently on a 40 ring than a 60 and avoid the heat?


Perhaps you are over thinking this just a tad.

As it's been said numerous times before, many many brands and lines within that brand start out as coronas. Once the blend is perfected, additional vitolas are added to the mix until a new product line is born. Not always, but quite a few.

Generally, the smaller the ring gauge, the more wrapper flavor you get. The last cigar I smoked was a Viaje Platino Lancero. It's a 7" long 38 ring smoke. The only "heat" I experienced was on my finger tips as I smoked down to the last inch.

That being said it had a rich chocolaty flavor all the way through.
KingoftheCove Offline
#9 Posted:
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ya - what he^^ said...

that said......I can count on one hand the 60RG cigars I'll buy...

don't ask noobs
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted:
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I read something years ago from one of the cigar dudes that said the 46 ring gage worked best for delivering a lot of smoke without getting hot.... there was some sort of science to it and stuff... Mellow
danmdevries Offline
#11 Posted:
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Awesome. Ive really only been buying Robusto lately, and have been happy with almost all of them.

Sounds like i was just making a noob mistake of bigger is better. So many of the popular sticks at my b&m are 60s, but the only ones ive liked enough to buy 5ers have been smaller Robusto and coronas.

Thank you for the lesson, didn't realize the production process. I assumed the blend was different across the sizes to compensate for the different ratios of filler to wrapper

Makes a lot more sense now.
tonygraz Offline
#12 Posted:
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Bigger does not mean better. Cigars are made differently - different tobaccos, different blends, different draws. If your smoke intake is getting hot, you are smoking too fast. In cold weather I often find I'm smoking too fast . You have to adjust for all the factors. I smoke all ring sizes and the big rings usually do take too long to smoke, but the NUB sizes usually can be smoked in as little as an hour. And just for a zinger, the best nub type cigar I ever smoked was made by Gurkha.
knokmdwn Offline
#13 Posted:
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Have you been known to suck the chrome off a trailer hitch? ...........jus askin...............

Just go easy on ALL cigars, regardless of size. the flavors will be much better and probably a lot more noticeable.
bs_kwaj Offline
#14 Posted:
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Think less.

Smoke more.

Herfing
KPP Offline
#15 Posted:
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The perfect size cigar IMO is the corona gorda. 5.6 x 46 rg. You wouldn't want to take more puffs on a smaller rg than a larger as over smoking any rg is gonna lead to tar build up and muddled flavors. Easier said than done sometimes, but if you can learn to 'sip on em' versus gulp em down, you'll enjoy em more.
KingoftheCove Offline
#16 Posted:
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Different cigars require different smoking techniques (draw frequency, draw force, etc.) in order to get the "most" out of them.
It took me a while to get that sorted out properly, but it has made a huge difference.
triodes Offline
#17 Posted:
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knokmdwn wrote:
Just go easy on ALL cigars, regardless of size. the flavors will be much better and probably a lot more noticeable.

KingoftheCove wrote:
Different cigars require different smoking techniques (draw frequency, draw force, etc.) in order to get the "most" out of them.
It took me a while to get that sorted out properly, but it has made a huge difference.

^^
And some cigars you need different techniques as you smoke, they change a bit the further you smoke them down.

44 to 46 is right where most of the ones I smoke are, well a lot of 38's in there.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2014
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Yup, don't ask a newbie. I have some great cigars I'm unwilling to demolish as I learn. Patience is a learned behavior from going from cigarettes to cigars. A month ago I couldn't smoke a tree trunk in longer than an hour. Today I made a Tat PCR last 45 min. Mmmm. The pleasures of time. Now if I can only make myself stop puffing 2-3 times so many times I'd be ok
Pedros lawn service Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 02-27-2013
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60 ring looks like you are sucking on something else. I will stay with 32 to 44.


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