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muddy77 Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:13 PM EST
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how good are the humi pillows i have not heard alot about them so i was just wondering what is a good price for them and are they any good for travailing and how long to they useable last.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:17 PM EST
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Humi pillows only release moisture and don't really regulate humidity that well. Better off with boveda 2-way packs.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:18 PM EST
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^ also known as teedubya packs
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#4 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:18 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Humi pillows only release moisture and don't really regulate humidity that well. Better off with boveda 2-way packs.


Yup.

They're not the best.

Buy some small Bovedas
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:20 PM EST
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muddy77 wrote:
how good are the humi pillows i have not heard alot about them so i was just wondering what is a good price for them and are they any good for travailing and how long to they useable last.


Keep your eye on these:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...al-Tube-Humidification/

I picked up 10 of them last month for $3. AFAIK, they can be used an unlimited number of times. I have some I've been using for over 3 years. I refill them about once a month. At that rate, they have cost me $0.08 per use. Suppose they are good for another 3 years, that will drop to $0.04 per use.

On the other hand, if you get 3 uses out of the pillows, as advertised, they will cost you $0.33 per use.

Even at $5 each, IMHO they are still a better deal than the pillows.

My 2¢
Abrignac Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:22 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Keep your eye on these:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...al-Tube-Humidification/

I picked up 10 of them last month for $3. AFAIK, they can be used an unlimited number of times. I have some I've been using for over 3 years. I refill them about once a month. At that rate, they have cost me $0.08 per use. Suppose they are good for another 3 years, that will drop to $0.04 per use.

On the other hand, if you get 3 uses out of the pillows, as advertised, they will cost you $0.33 per use.

Even at $5 each, IMHO they are still a better deal than the pillows.

My 2¢


Oh, and before the "two way" types check in, the three humidors I humidified them with kept a constant 65% rh for 3 years.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 7:46 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Keep your eye on these:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...al-Tube-Humidification/

I picked up 10 of them last month for $3. AFAIK, they can be used an unlimited number of times. I have some I've been using for over 3 years. I refill them about once a month. At that rate, they have cost me $0.08 per use. Suppose they are good for another 3 years, that will drop to $0.04 per use.

On the other hand, if you get 3 uses out of the pillows, as advertised, they will cost you $0.33 per use.

Even at $5 each, IMHO they are still a better deal than the pillows.

My 2¢

Abrignac wrote:
Oh, and before the "two way" types check in, the three humidors I humidified them with kept a constant 65% rh for 3 years.



They're actually both the same active ingredient: Super Absorbent Polymer gel. Maybe not the same formulation though as there are a few different chemical formulas for it. Generally speaking SAP is two way, it's just not as quick to absorb moisture from the air as it is to release it. Also, depending how it's made, the RH it maintains can vary from one type / manufacturer to another.

Additionally, the membrane on the water pillow interferes with the absorbency of the SAP in the pouch. It also can quickly turn into a mold farm.

They actually do have a lifespan, but it's unlikely you'll hit it using them in a humidor. Dump them into your potting soil with your plants and they'll degrade in 5-7 years.
Abrignac Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:20 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
They're actually both the same active ingredient: Super Absorbent Polymer gel. Maybe not the same formulation though as there are a few different chemical formulas for it. Generally speaking SAP is two way, it's just not as quick to absorb moisture from the air as it is to release it. Also, depending how it's made, the RH it maintains can vary from one type / manufacturer to another.

Additionally, the membrane on the water pillow interferes with the absorbency of the SAP in the pouch. It also can quickly turn into a mold farm.

They actually do have a lifespan, but it's unlikely you'll hit it using them in a humidor. Dump them into your potting soil with your plants and they'll degrade in 5-7 years.



Hmmmm...........

This got me wondering so I did a little research.


I found that SAP is the same thing found in disposable diapers. At some point, I'm guessing we'll get a thread that advocates cutting the crotch out of diapers and using them in humidors. Cacman will chime in and it will become a free for all.

horse
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:32 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Hmmmm...........

This got me wondering so I did a little research.


I found that SAP is the same thing found in disposable diapers. At some point, I'm guessing we'll get a thread that advocates cutting the crotch out of diapers and using them in humidors. Cacman will chime in and it will become a free for all.

horse


LOL.


I can see it happening here too, exactly the way you spelled it out, which makes it even funnier.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:37 PM EST
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Coincidentally I'm wearing a diaper for role playing night.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:41 PM EST
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Mental note... If ZRX ever offers to send you beads, pass.
MACS Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:53 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Mental note... If ZRX ever offers to send you beads, pass.


You had to make a note of that? Duh!
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 8:58 PM EST
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What the heck? What did I ever do?
tonygraz Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 9:20 PM EST
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Dunno, but I'm not checking that diaper.
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jan 11 2015, 11:37 PM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Mental note... If ZRX ever offers to send you beads, pass.

well...depends.
delta1 Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jan 12 2015, 12:19 AM EST
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Where's whizzy?
tailgater Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jan 12 2015, 11:06 PM EST
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"Those aren't pillows..."
tonygraz Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 14 2015, 7:03 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Keep your eye on these:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...al-Tube-Humidification/

I picked up 10 of them last month for $3. AFAIK, they can be used an unlimited number of times. I have some I've been using for over 3 years. I refill them about once a month. At that rate, they have cost me $0.08 per use. Suppose they are good for another 3 years, that will drop to $0.04 per use.

On the other hand, if you get 3 uses out of the pillows, as advertised, they will cost you $0.33 per use.

Even at $5 each, IMHO they are still a better deal than the pillows.

My 2¢



The problem for some may be that they are filled with PG and are supposed to be refilled with PG.: http://www.xikar.com/products/humidification/drymistat-tubes/

Do you refill with PG or distilled water, Anthony.
muddy77 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jan 15 2015, 12:42 PM EST
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d'oh! I should have know with you people that when I asked this question to figure something out that u would get these types of responses good info on most of the but really wearing dippers and role play night wow I'm at a loss for words. You bunch of clowns.
tonygraz Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Jan 15 2015, 2:19 PM EST
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Your question was answered here but in another topic a while back into last year.
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