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dsims Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 6:39 PM EST
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Had a friend give me a tubador. Most have been sitting in the rapper since 09. Not sure how much attention he gave them. Took them out of the rappers and only one cracked. The rappers were deep yellowed and sticky. He had cedar wrappings in the bottom. They have been in long enough they are stuck to the bottom. No holes or cracks in the cigars. How do I tell if the cigars are still good? I'm hoping so as a lot of them are favorites.

Thanks
David
jespear Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:10 PM EST
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dsims wrote:
Had a friend give me a tubador. Most have been sitting in the rapper since 09. Not sure how much attention he gave them. Took them out of the rappers and only one cracked. The rappers were deep yellowed and sticky. He had cedar wrappings in the bottom. They have been in long enough they are stuck to the bottom. No holes or cracks in the cigars. How do I tell if the cigars are still good? I'm hoping so as a lot of them are favorites.

Thanks
David


Smoke them ! d'oh!
collectorchris Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:14 PM EST
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I would seal them up with 1 or 2 69% Bovida packs or some beads for a week or so to make sure they are or can get as close to properly re-humidified. Then I would try to smoke one and see if they are any good still.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:20 PM EST
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What's a tubador?
danmdevries Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:25 PM EST
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Bought a collection from an estate sale a while back, well neglected cigars in the high end desktop humidor.

Threw in a few 65% Bovedas for a month and opened it up again. There wrte a few cigars that didn't have cracked wrapper leaf. Tried to smoke em but they were flavorless airballs.

Try to rehumidify them gently over a long while and see if they smoke. That's the only way you'll know.
danmdevries Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:27 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
What's a tubador?


Yes, this also...
sd72 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:27 PM EST
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Sorry for your loss.
99cobra2881 Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:30 PM EST
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Do not start out with that high of a moisture content the wrappers will swell and split. Start out with at max mid 50s then work your way up over several months this is going to take time not just a few weeks.




opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 7:32 PM EST
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Who would make a humidor out of a tuba?
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 8:31 PM EST
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A tuba player.
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 8:56 PM EST
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I like where this is going...
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 9:34 PM EST
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Put a piece of lettuce in there for a day or two.
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 9:45 PM EST
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Laugh
opelmanta1900 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:10 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Put a piece of lettuce in there for a day or two.

Is that in case he gets hungry during marching band practice? I'd do granola or something...
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:31 PM EST
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oh yeah! Love where this is going.
tamapatom Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:36 PM EST
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Maybe he meant tunador..........cigars stuffed in a big fish.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:41 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Is that in case he gets hungry during marching band practice? I'd do granola or something...



lettuce =water.. ThumpUp



it's from a very old noob post.... Laugh
dsims Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:49 PM EST
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We have always called a piece of tubaware used as a humidor a tubador. I was wondering if there something physically I can look for in the tobacco for mold. The cigars wrappers are not hard or flaking. I'll throw a few humidity packets in and see what happens. With the wrappers being on for that long cause issues?

Thanks
David
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 10:56 PM EST
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Is tubaware the case you store the tuba in? You should take the cigars out and put them in the tuba immediately... with the granola...
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 11:19 PM EST
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dsims wrote:
We have always called a piece of tubaware used as a humidor a tubador. I was wondering if there something physically I can look for in the tobacco for mold. The cigars wrappers are not hard or flaking. I'll throw a few humidity packets in and see what happens. With the wrappers being on for that long cause issues?

Thanks
David


If you mean the cellophane sleeves, no. Not a problem. If anything they might have helped the cigars sustain less damage over the years of neglect. Only smoking them will tell if they are worth anything or have lost all their flavor.

Mold is unlikely based on your description of how they have been stored. Mold is obvious, very easy to spot. It doesn't look any different on a cigar than mold on cheese, bread, a tomato, an orange rind etc. The colors can vary but the overall look is the same.
jespear Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 11:22 PM EST
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You guys are brutal.
( Not you, T G)

Happy New Year, Frank.
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 11:26 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
You guys are brutal.
( Not you, T G)

Happy New Year, Frank.

Thanks Brother John!

You actually gave the best advice right away.
delta1 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Sep 13 2015, 11:28 PM EST
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tubaware = tupperware?

tubador = tupperdor?
tamapatom Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 7:06 AM EST
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What was that song the tubador sang in Monty Python's Holy Grail?
danmdevries Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 10:26 AM EST
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Bravely bold Sir Robin?
danmdevries Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 10:28 AM EST
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I believe that's a troubadour
mikey1597 Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 10:41 AM EST
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Hey DSIMS, what ceegars you get dumped in your lap?
Bur Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 10:43 AM EST
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When danger reared is ugly head.....

That's enough singing.
TMCTLT Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 11:06 AM EST
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dsims wrote:
Had a friend give me a tubador. Most have been sitting in the rapper since 09. Not sure how much attention he gave them. Took them out of the rappers and only one cracked. The rappers were deep yellowed and sticky. He had cedar wrappings in the bottom. They have been in long enough they are stuck to the bottom. No holes or cracks in the cigars. How do I tell if the cigars are still good? I'm hoping so as a lot of them are favorites.

Thanks
David



@ first read I thought mebbe you had some sucky singer in there with a Bad case of jaundice.....
tamapatom Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 11:06 AM EST
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Tubas are excellent for preserving necessary humidity. The saliva dribbles through the mouthpiece and ferments inside and reacts with the brass creating a nano-steam engine effect. Do NOT close off the open end of the tuba for fear of creating an explosion. There was a tragic accident where two music students were killed in a car.....and the exact cause of the death was never determined. There was a tuba in the car. Suspicious.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 11:42 AM EST
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All this tuba talk makes me think of stewie in family guy following fat people with a tuba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvWvfCSZ8M
dstieger Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 11:51 AM EST
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funny, I didn't bat an eye at 'tubador'....sounds familiar even...maybe Pacman had tubadors?...I was more amused by the rappers....but OP corrected that by his second post, so I'll let that slide...like mikey, I'm curious what sort of cigars we're talking about...I'm going to bet that resuscitation is more trouble than its worth...and not likely to be satisfactory anyway
tamapatom Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 12:04 PM EST
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Depends on your seal and average outside humidity. They might be OK if not totally crispy. Do they crackle and disintegrate when you squeeze them? Its not much work to rehumidify. Try it.

Even if the cigars are not good, you now have a musical instrument you can learn to play.
tamapatom Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 12:23 PM EST
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And I do not like rappers with my cigars.......they are always wanting to upgrade to a Daniel Marshall gold torpedo.
99cobra2881 Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 12:45 PM EST
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When he was talking about old rappers flavor flav came to mind.
danmdevries Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 2:03 PM EST
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I thought he was referring to some tubos initially, then figured maybe it was a cylindrical humidor like my brother in law's giant shotgun shell humidor.
99cobra2881 Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 2:09 PM EST
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Tubaware I think it's a jersey thing. The rest of the non Jersey English speaking country call it Tupperware.
danmdevries Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 2:19 PM EST
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99cobra2881 wrote:
Tubaware I think it's a jersey thing. The rest of the non Jersey English speaking country call it Tupperware.


Didn't even give that consideration.

99cobra2881 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 2:33 PM EST
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dsims wrote:
We have always called a piece of tubaware used as a humidor a tubador.



Think
tamapatom Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 3:14 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
I thought he was referring to some tubos initially, then figured maybe it was a cylindrical humidor like my brother in law's giant shotgun shell humidor.

Send out a PIB/PIF in one of those and you can really say you bombed someone.
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2015, 4:29 PM EST
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Tuberware is how Mushmouth says it.

Hey-ba fa-ba albert. You have a tubaware to put ba rest ub my weed-ba?
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