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Gene363 Offline
#51 Posted:
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re 46 & 47

Granted some religious folks quote the bible against to argue against homosexual marriage, however other Bible based religions are OK with it. They both read the same book. I am confident there are atheists that believe marriage is between a man and a woman. The court ruled against them and now they may wish to modify the state constitution to change the law of the land.

Putting the shoe on the other foot, I don't feel restricted from religious beliefs if an atheists argues against school prayer. In conclusion, I think you argument is valid, but a long way around the mountain.

Now for my smart ass reply, you want to marry a guy? 'Cause I did say, "exactly how/when has this happened to you?" (:P
jackconrad Offline
#52 Posted:
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Gay male sex is the Leading cause of Aids spreading in the US. It is a dangerous and risky life style. Since these kind actions do not make babies :as opposed to Heterosexual behavior:It would appear they go against the LAW of Nature.

The main reasons these people want legalized marriage is so they can qualify for gauranteed Govt benefits, namely Health insurance to pay for there Health Problems that arise from this unatural behavior.

This then is no more than than a way to have the Public money pay for and subsidise this behavior : which is repulsive and disgusting to the great Majority of Americans.

What is Democratic about that ?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#53 Posted:
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52. Author: jackconrad

these same-sex couples that are going to get married are generally monogamous couples who have been together longer then most heterosexual couples stay married. the idea that they would marry for free medical care is a specious argument with no foundation.

i also doubt your position that Gay male sex is the Leading cause of Aids spreading in the US.

repulsive and disgusting to the great Majority of Americans, is a window into your mind, not any majority of anthing except christian doctrine.


i have said this before, christians should follow their religion and look for their reward in heaven and mind their own business about what the heathens do.

remember repentance just before death gets you into heaven, where all the gays and lesbians will have all those angelic christians to convert to their sordid life style.

sorry god, i really did repent, but i didn't know there were this many beautiful angels too chose from.
JonR Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
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Yo Rick:

"these same-sex couples that are going to get married are generally monogamous couples who have been together longer then most heterosexual couples stay married"


Once again a non-factual line of bull**** that ricky (the atheist) made up. Nice try!


JonR


PS: yo rick, for a person who has no need for a God or Religion you sure do put it (Religion) down quite often, but that is what you atheist do, huh.
ddandb Offline
#55 Posted:
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Top “Gay” Organization Comes Clean: “HIV is a gay disease.” 2/14/2008

Washington, D.C. — In a public statement last Friday, Matt Foreman, outgoing Executive Director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, rattled the homosexual activist community by joining the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), pro-family organizations and a growing number of homosexual activists willing to admit that homosexual behavior is both extremely high-risk and primarily responsible for the spread of HIV/AIDS in the U.S.

Addressing the topic of AIDS, Foreman drastically deviated from the “gay” lobby’s party line by admitting, “Internally, when these numbers come out, the ‘established’ gay community seems to have a collective shrug as if this isn’t our problem. Folks, with 70 percent of the people in this country living with HIV being gay or bi, we cannot deny that HIV is a gay disease. We have to own that and face up to that.”

A little over a year ago, Lorri Jean, CEO of the Los Angeles-based Gay and Lesbian Center, similarly shocked the “gay” community by stating that, “HIV is a Gay Disease. Own it. End it.”

Foreman’s admission comes on the heels of a letter from Matt Barber, Concerned Women for America’s (CWA) Policy Director for Cultural Issues, inviting Foreman and other homosexual activists to work together in discouraging homosexuals from engaging in the high-risk behaviors researchers recently determined are responsible for the epidemic spread of a potentially deadly strain of staph infection among certain segments of the “gay” community. The CDC has acknowledged that many of those same high-risk behaviors, such as male-male anal sex, are chiefly responsible for spreading HIV/AIDS.

Matt Barber addressed Foreman’s admission: “It’s extremely encouraging to see Matt Foreman, a homosexual activist who has for so long been in denial about the dangers of the lifestyle he has promoted, publicly coming to terms with the undeniable perils of that lifestyle.

“I only hope he will now stop promoting homosexual conduct and push for other liberal elites, especially those running our public schools, to do the same. Educators must truthfully address the ‘gay’ lifestyle’s potentially deadly consequences.

“It’s criminally reckless for the National Education Association and liberal educators to put political correctness and a deceptive political agenda above the lives, health and well-being of America’s children. The evidence is there for all to see. ‘Gayness’ is not about ‘who you are,’ it’s about ‘what you do.’ The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force has now, in effect, acknowledged that reality. Their honesty is refreshing and unexpected,” concluded Barber.

For Information Contact:
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victor808 Offline
#56 Posted:
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hey, there are idiots on this board!

1 - Gay sex WITH AN INFECTED PERSON is a leading cause of the spread of aids in the US. Two uninfected, monogamous gay men can bump uglies until "the cows come home" and not catch anything.

2 - Marriage furthers the concept of monogamy. Guess what, the people getting married are likely doing so to reinforce their monogamy (therefore "taking them off the market").

3 - Why the hell are you concerned about the spread of aids? Are you(jack, jon) planning on having sex with gay men, and want to make sure they're clean?

4 - How the hell does one automatically get "guaranteed gov't benefits, namely health insurance to pay for their health problems" just by being married? I didn't think our troops could get guaranteed health benefits, but apparently anyone who is married (especially those gay married people) can??

So. If you are concerned about the spread of aids, perhaps you should be in favor of monogamous relationships among gay men? (ie marriage).

To claim this is some sort of insurance scam is ridiculous and dishonest. since these sorts of insurance scams are prevalent among straight people as well (Oh no! you must be joking1!! straight people don't get sick! NEVER! We are god's chosen and as such will live forever in health and prosperity!!!). If you #**** are worried about sickness and insurance fraud I suggest the following - 1 kill all fat people. They are the leading cause of type II diabetes. 2 - don't let any fat people marry. they are probably doing it to get insurance benefits.

Damn fat people.

Ah... and if you are so concerned about the "Law of nature" then we should restrict marriage to only individuals interesting in conception. Infertile and post-menstrual women should be second-class citizens. Any men with "slow swimmers" should be put to work in the mines.

And while we are on the "law of nature" track, and the "unnatural behavior". Well, i guess that means you are in favor of putting those "blue laws" back on the books. no more Straight anal sex either. any porno showing it should be taken off the market and the actors killed. Oh.... that goes for oral sex too.

they are unnatural. and probably subsidized.

So. what can I say.

You can take my blowjobs from my cold dead hand...

**** nazi.


Oh and for the record.
"which is repulsive and disgusting to the great majority of americans" I believe is a quote from anti-tobacco groups.

#****.
borndead1 Offline
#57 Posted:
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Homophobia: The heterosexual man's fear of being buttraped by a large, well-endowed gay man.
borndead1 Offline
#58 Posted:
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Oh, and of course gay CHARITY organizations want to own AIDS. More funding!



What is the leading cause of AIDS in Africa?
teedubbya Offline
#59 Posted:
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there are plenty of homophobes and biggots in here. Sure they get offended when called such, but it tis what it tis

yall are a bunch of ****

lol
DrMaddVibe Offline
#60 Posted:
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Bush Seeks More Funds for AIDS Fight Abstract


On Friday, President Bush marked World AIDS Day by emphasizing the role of churches in fighting the epidemic. The president visited two churches in Mount Airy, Md., to learn of their front-line efforts to prevent and treat what continues to be one of the world's most devastating diseases. At McLean Bible Church, member Chris Dominick told Bush of his plans to head to Zambia on a church mission to work with children with AIDS. Rebecca Mink, a Christian missionary, related how she and her husband founded a home in Namibia for 55 AIDS orphans. A Zambian woman said she is both a beneficiary and a care provider under the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) - a $15 billion, five-year global program. 'I've seen the Lazarus effect. I have seen hopes being raised. I have seen people coming back to life. And my message is, 'We are celebrating life to the fullest,'' Bridget Chisenga of Catholic Relief Services told Bush. Bush then met with AIDS service providers at Calvary United Methodist Church. After that meeting, the president called on Congress to once again double PEPFAR spending in the next five years to $30 billion. He also announced that he will travel to Africa early next year to view first-hand the program's progress. 'It is in our moral interest,' Bush said of PEPFAR. 'It lifts our spirits and souls to help neighbors in need, whether it's a neighbor across the street or a neighbor in the global community.' Asked Friday whether the United States is doing enough to fight HIV/AIDS at home, White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said: 'We are putting resources and money towards it… There is a need here in America, but there is also a need in other countries, including Africa, Latin America, and Asia.'


Source
Washington Post
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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Victor sure knows alot about **** and such...
JonR Offline
#62 Posted:
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"What is the leading cause of AIDS in Africa?"


Er, hmmmmmm, let me think, hmmmm, I would have to say "African's".



JonR
DrMaddVibe Offline
#63 Posted:
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By Richard Wolf and Susan Page, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — President Bush will propose doubling the funding to combat HIV/AIDS overseas in his last State of the Union address Monday, one of several new initiatives he says will demonstrate his intention to "sprint to the finish" of his time in office.
The five-year, $30 billion proposal would provide treatment for about 2.5 million people infected with the disease and preventive measures for about 12 million others. The initiative, approved by Congress in 2003 at $15 billion, operates in 15 countries in sub-Saharan Africa, Asia and the Caribbean.


STIMULUS PACKAGE: Aid measures are 'insurance policy'

"Our compassion should be manifested in helping people who suffer from disease and hunger," Bush said Thursday in an interview with USA TODAY. "We have a strategy that's working. It is to support a strategy that has made a difference in over a million people's lives in a relatively quick period of time."

That effort will be on display next month when the president travels to five African democracies, including Rwanda, a nation wracked by civil war and genocide in the 1990s. Bush also will visit Tanzania, Ghana, Liberia and Benin during a six-day trip from Feb. 15-21.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: George W Bush | Congress | Asia | Caribbean | African | Ghana | Tanzania | Rwanda | sub-Saharan Africa | Liberia | Benin
Bush said Monday's address — which he practiced for the first time Thursday afternoon — will make it clear he plans for an activist year in office despite the threat of a faltering economy and the war in Iraq.

The speech will focus on domestic policy first. The theme: "It's important for government to trust in our citizens" when making policy, he said. That, he said, applies to issues from health care to education to taxes.

Asked the odds that he'll succeed in making the 2001 tax cuts permanent — a long-standing proposal with uncertain prospects — he replied, "The odds are 100% I'm going to call for it."

On foreign policy, the president said he will focus on a "freedom agenda," an effort to encourage human rights and democracy around the world.

He said he will address both the "successes" in Iraq, where last year's increase in U.S. military forces has helped reduce violence, and "the fact that we've got more work to do."

He also said he would unveil "a new idea" to address hunger — "we're a generous nation when it comes to hunger," he said — and expand an initiative to deal with malaria in the developing world.

In the interview, Bush was reflective about delivering his last such address to a joint session of Congress: "The State of the Union is a chance for me to say to the American people, 'I'm going to finish strong, and I'm going to work with Congress to do it. There's some unfinished business and some new ideas, and let's get to it.' "

He seemed philosophical about the time ahead. "When it's all said and done, I will have finished it with all my soul and all my might," he said, "and we'll go do something different."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-24-bushinside_N.htm
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted:
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^ only cause they are black.... right jon?

karma
DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted:
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I wonder if CROS has AIDS..?? Being black and gay and all...
JonR Offline
#66 Posted:
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"Homophobia: The heterosexual man's fear of being buttraped by a large, well-endowed gay man."


Asopposed to:


Hetrophobia: The homosexual man's fear of not being buttraped by a large, well-emdowed straight man.



JonR
teedubbya Offline
#67 Posted:
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drafter - he is crippled though.... the queers don't like that
DrafterX Offline
#68 Posted:
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discriminating queers eh? ****...

poor CROS...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#69 Posted:
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What about "Brokeback Mountain"?
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted:
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^ ????
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted:
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cripple yes (broke back), **** yes, no darkies
DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted:
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69. Author: DrMaddVibe
What about "Brokeback Mountain"?



So, what about it? I've never seen it. Have you?

DrMaddVibe Offline
#73 Posted:
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Nope. Never saw it.
DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted:
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uh huh.....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#75 Posted:
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Look what it did to Heath!
jpotts Offline
#76 Posted:
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borndead1:

"What I never understood is people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty."

When a person is sentanced to death, that individual has had at least one jury trial, has had numerous appeals, and gets to keep their life for several years before the sentance is carried out...all at taxpayer expense.

When a child is aborted, it is given no trial, offered no voice in the matter, not provided any defense, offered no appeals, and terminated often on a whim. This too is also often done at taxpayer expense.

It's called "due process". Murderers are given it, unborn children are not.

I hope that clarifies things for you.
jpotts Offline
#77 Posted:
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By the way, people who do not marry should not have sex.

This should be a law.
jpotts Offline
#78 Posted:
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Hating Bush, by the way, solves lots of problems. It's fixed the mortgage mess, the economic slowdown, and the problems in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's also helped keep gas prices low.

Hating Bush is good for this country. We need four more years of Bush to keep things running in top-top shape.
victor808 Offline
#79 Posted:
Joined: 04-20-2005
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I don't believe that's the question.

What about people that don't want to have sex for procreation? Should they not be allowed to marry?


Personally, I vote that anyone unable or unwilling to procreate be killed. Death by landmine.

We should probably include anyone who is "unfit" for procreation as well... (poor genetic material...)
jackconrad Offline
#80 Posted:
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VIC and Rick , you guys are obsessed with calling me a Bible toting Racist. Thuth is i havent been to church in over 20 years and i have done alot to fight for improvement for minoritiesIn my vast Public Service experiences.. I do not understand the Gay thing ,but i never bothered them and am just as pleasant to them as anyone else. I had a Beach trailer in Rehobeth Beach De for 15 years and that is the Gay capital of the East Coast. Never had a problem with them but i got alot of chuckles as to how many acted. I even had a cousin who had a sex change operation , (paid for by his employer the Commenwealth of Pa.. Which i believe was an abuse and theft of taxpayers money),He died from AIDS and cost this state a ****pile of money and that is just plain wrong.

Fact is i get along with everyone.

Youse guys are just HOMOHOMOPHOBICS !
victor808 Offline
#81 Posted:
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"The main reasons these people want legalized marriage is so they can qualify for gauranteed Govt benefits, namely Health insurance to pay for there Health Problems that arise from this unatural behavior.

This then is no more than than a way to have the Public money pay for and subsidise this behavior : which is repulsive and disgusting to the great Majority of Americans."

You sound like the tobacco nazi, you realize?

Also, your post makes sweeping generalizations without any proof, any reason why things are "different for the gays" and follows on with how the gov't is "subsidising" it, without any idea how that would be.

So, your cousin "stole" from the state to get a sex change operation. What does that have to do with homosexuality? you realize that the two things are completely different, right? And even if there is a gay person out there committing insurance fraud, how is that made easier by being married? How does that make them any different from the scores of straight white-collar criminals out there?
jpotts Offline
#82 Posted:
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It is unnatual behavior. And it's an evolutionary dead-end. We need to "landmine" homosexuals to save the species!

That and force victor808 to have kids.
victor808 Offline
#83 Posted:
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"evolutionary dead end"?

Hmmm... from pottsie?

victor808 Offline
#84 Posted:
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you still haven't weighed in on blowjobs and anal sex pottsie.



Are you going to try to take my blowjobs away pottsie?


It's an evolutionary dead end, you know.
jpotts Offline
#85 Posted:
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Yes, we need to stop this. Evolution dictates that this is not proper behavior.

And, we must make you breed, victor. It's one of your civil rights.
victor808 Offline
#86 Posted:
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is your wife's uterus available?

I really don't want to use my girlfriend's, it'll ruin her figure.
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted:
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we should all like bush no matter what he does.

Judging him by his actions is hate...... especially for those of us who voted for him and changed our view based on his actions..... that is very closed minded.

we should be more open minded like those people who defend his every aciton...


"up is down
down is up"
Anton LaVey

DrafterX Offline
#88 Posted:
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86. Author: victor808

I really don't want to use my girlfriend's, it'll ruin her figure.



Do you really think you'll notice another 30 or 40 lbs?

victor808 Offline
#89 Posted:
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?

You have obviously never met her.

I hear that your wife/girlfriend and daughter are all really fat and ugly as well. Additionally I have heard that in order to procreate with them, a gentleman caller is required to utilize a "sack" of sorts, made of paper products, which he must put over their head.
DrafterX Offline
#90 Posted:
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you heard wrong.... and I'll just assume you wouldn't notice the extra weight...
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted:
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paper or plastic?
victor808 Offline
#92 Posted:
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If I wouldn't notice, why would I want to avoid it happening?

Come on bright boy.

I'll tell you what, you can go and have sex with someone 30-40lbs overweight. Tell me how it is.
teedubbya Offline
#93 Posted:
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wet
DrafterX Offline
#94 Posted:
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Although my wife is far from overweight, I know a little about them. I was taken advantage of once. I don't remember complaining at the time but I did feel a bit ashamed and used the next day...
victor808 Offline
#95 Posted:
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I thought TW apologized for that afterwards.
teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted:
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fat chicks need lovin too
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#97 Posted:
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49. Author: qmechanics

me, push buttons, you make the joke, no?

actually the only button i push is the one i started to push and will continue to push, stop.

but the bush elevator continuous it's downward spiral
as he makes his world tour along with his hundreds of secret service agents to protect his worthless ass.

i know he may not have any influence on the price of gas, but is that any reason not to blame him.

i have already blamed him for some of my surgeries, so why not the price of gas.

the other button i push lightly and that is the christian religion button. i don't push the button for any other religion, because no other religion attempts to influence my life.

other religions go about their business tending to their followers as they should and minding their own business.


as far as herfing together, you are correct. we would enjoy each other's company.
DrafterX Offline
#98 Posted:
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other religions go about their business tending to their followers as they should and minding their own business.


"Death to the Infidels" ring a bell?
jpotts Offline
#99 Posted:
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You know, the baby in the picture looks amazingly like RICKAMAVEN the day after the election in 2000, and 2004.
teedubbya Offline
#100 Posted:
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rick took a **** that looks just like GWB?

hope he sold it on ebay
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