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FuzzNJ Offline
#51 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:24 PM EST
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45: And the Civil Rights act in 1964 finally gave everyone the right to actually vote.
fishinguitarman Offline
#52 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:35 PM EST
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52!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FuzzNJ Offline
#53 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:51 PM EST
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And still in 2009 we have people using "Idi Amin" and "African Dictator" to describe our President based on the color of his skin. But it's all over 170 years ago.
HockeyDad Offline
#54 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:53 PM EST
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Kanye West set race relations back by a year.
fishinguitarman Offline
#55 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:53 PM EST
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^That's more true than you realize....
robertknyc Offline
#56 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:54 PM EST
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47.

The market is around the level it was at right before the election, so nice try but no dice.
gringococolo Offline
#57 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:57 PM EST
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Fuzz,

Your white guilt must devour you. Dude, it's not your fault. Plus you can get a tan and a perm and be black if you want the full effect. Collagen lips, ass implants, the whole 9 yards.

Come on man, call upon your youthful acting years and stop living as a white man with race guilt. Become black, join the revolution.

[email protected]
gringococolo Offline
#58 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 2:59 PM EST
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Hockeydad,

Because country music fans loved all black people before Kane West opened his mouth.

We are all worse off now because of Kane West.

Beer at the whitehouse is the solution.
FuzzNJ Offline
#59 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 3:00 PM EST
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57: Yeah, that's just stupid.
wtjvj Offline
#60 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 4:58 PM EST
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He sucks butt really well too.
teedubbya Offline
#61 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 5:30 PM EST
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yup

he and bush need to join butt suckers anon.
wheelrite Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 5:37 PM EST
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He's our 1st Afro-Euro-American,foreign born,President.

That's a good thing,right ?


wheel,
OldSchool Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 5:51 PM EST
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Fried Chicken and Collard Greens
jpotts Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:16 PM EST
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45. Author: wheelrite Date: 09/14/2009 06:47 PM Reply
Potts,,,

The Civil War ended in 1865,,

144 yrs...

wheel,,

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Yeah, and my Aunt is still 21 years old.

Your point being?
jpotts Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:18 PM EST
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53. Author: FuzzNJ Date: 09/14/2009 07:51 PM Reply

And still in 2009 we have people using "Idi Amin" and "African Dictator" to describe our President based on the color of his skin. But it’s all over 170 years ago.

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Actually, he is of African decent, and he is a dictator wannbe.
robertknyc Offline
#66 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:20 PM EST
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I've been thinking about this for the last four hours and still can't come up with anything.
wheelrite Offline
#67 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:20 PM EST
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Potts you said it ended(slavery I assume)170 yrs ago.

that's all...

wheel,
jpotts Offline
#68 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:21 PM EST
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I used Congressional math.
wheelrite Offline
#69 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:22 PM EST
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^ well there you go !

wheel,
drywalldog Offline
#70 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:33 PM EST
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56. So are you saying the market wasn't headed that way before he got in. Selective memory, or is it the fact it didn't turn around the day he got in office. Clearly he took over in a period of extreme distress. I think he has presided over the quickest turn around in history also. In giving him credit for the downturn during his tenure, you must also give him credit for the turn around.
jpotts Offline
#71 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:35 PM EST
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Yes.

Most people consider 9.7% unemployment to be the sure sign of a quick turnaround.
wheelrite Offline
#72 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:35 PM EST
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^ There's no Turn around,,

It's a blip..

The Commercial Real Estate Derivatives are about to crash and that'll make what weve seen look like a Pic Nic....

wheel,,
HockeyDad Offline
#73 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:37 PM EST
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We've turned around?
jpotts Offline
#74 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:38 PM EST
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Well...in comparison to France, we have.
drywalldog Offline
#75 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:39 PM EST
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From the bottom on the stock market, or hasn't it reached bottom yet?
HockeyDad Offline
#76 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:41 PM EST
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Who cares about the stock market. That's for rich people. Why is Obama helping them@?!
jpotts Offline
#77 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:41 PM EST
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We'll see after Cap-n-Trade gets passed.
wheelrite Offline
#78 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:42 PM EST
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The reason the Stock Market has risen lately is not from private investors.

It's The Big Banks who are not LENDING money that have to put their cash somewhere.

wheel,
HockeyDad Offline
#79 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:43 PM EST
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France has less unemployment than the USA and positive GDP growth.
jpotts Offline
#80 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:44 PM EST
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First time in a century.
wheelrite Offline
#81 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:44 PM EST
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Europe is leaning to the Right now,while we are hurdling to the Left..


wheel,
jpotts Offline
#82 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:45 PM EST
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Ok, Ok, Ok....

VIVA LA FRRRRRR....








VIVA LA FRAAAAAA...






VIVA LA FFFFFFF...

















Go Norway!
HockeyDad Offline
#83 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:46 PM EST
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Once the USA becomes more accustomed to euro-socialism, you'll realize that 7-10% unemployment is perfectly normal.
jpotts Offline
#84 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 6:49 PM EST
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All of a sudden, I feel the need for some aged goat cheese and a bidet.
drywalldog Offline
#85 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 7:01 PM EST
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More for Robert.
Bushe's highest market Oct. 2007 14,093.
Obama sworn in Jan 2009 8077.
Obama's lowest point 6626.
Current 9626.
HockeyDad Offline
#86 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 7:22 PM EST
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The rich shorted the market and drove it down and now are buying it on the cheap.
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#87 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 7:26 PM EST
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85.

drywall, I follow the market for a living so I'll try to go easy on you. First, as Obama took the lead in the polls the market sold off hard, and the day after he won we had the largest percentage decline the day after an election if I remember the stat correctly. The market continued to fall, more than 33% since election day before it bottomed. The market has basically come right back to where it was on election day so there's really nothing to brag about.

What has Obama done to boost the economy? The stimulus has been a bust, with unemployment rates still rising to this day. So please tell us what policies of his are to be credited for is essence returning the market to where it was when the reality hit that he would be the next president? If it wasn't for all his proposed taxes, I would argue that the market would be a LOT higher than it is now.
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#88 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 7:26 PM EST
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OBAMA IS A PUPPET OF LIBERAL IDIOCY..
HockeyDad Offline
#89 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 7:32 PM EST
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It is all a scam so the rich get richer.
haon123 Offline
#90 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 8:00 PM EST
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87 - Your butthurt is showing...
robertknyc Offline
#91 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 8:02 PM EST
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What in the world are you talking about?
edsbar60 Offline
#92 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 8:23 PM EST
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"What''s he done good?"

Obama called Kanye West a jackass! I'll give him props for that.
drywalldog Offline
#93 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 8:32 PM EST
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Robert, many here have taken great pleasure in the market taking a dive since Obama was elected. Many also have claimed it would take years to come back. In fact the market took a greater fall during Bush's last year as president, then during Obama's presidency. Since you know the market, you know I'm right. We won't have do go over that. You give Obama the credit for it tanking, right? Then he get's the credit for it coming back. You also say that whatever he has done hasn't brought back the economy, really, you think it's a fair assesment after 8 months in office, most of the money from the stimulus bill hasn't even reached the economy yet. Will you may be right, we will know in years, not months. If it was your president in office, I would think you would give him a much longer lease, like the 8 years Bush was given to let us get to this point. Our financial and credit markets were at the point of collapse when he took office, or was this a hoax also. How long did it take for Reagan to turn around the economy when he was in office?
big chief Offline
#94 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 9:10 PM EST
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DWD, it is all perceptions
robertknyc Offline
#95 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 9:16 PM EST
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Like I said, the market is about where it was when he got elected, so what turnaround is there to speak of? Unemployment is going higher than he said it would if the stimulus was passed. Given that the stimulus is not producing the desired effect, why should we think that it will help as it continues to come forth? What policies of his show promise to boost the economy? Reagan and Bush CUT taxes which is why the economy improved like it did in those cases. What Obama policy promises to produce a similar effect I ask you? If anything, his hope to pass health care and tax the wealthy, and pass the cap and trade tax will HARM the economy. So please tell me why we should give him ANY credit for assisting the situation. Markets swing on their own, and you cannot point to anything Obama has done that has or will improve the economy. On the contrary it's clear that his policies will not help but will hurt the economy. I won't even go into the soaring deficits that we CAN attribute to him.
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#96 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 9:43 PM EST
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Nope, can not think of one good thing....

It's the transparency thing that get me....
pabloescabar Offline
#97 Posted: Mon, Sep 14 2009, 10:32 PM EST
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oBAMA Is No Reagan !
drywalldog Offline
#98 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2009, 1:44 AM EST
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Wow Robert, you make this harder than it has to be, let's see the bottom in Obama's tenure was in March 2009 at 6626. It is now 9626 for a turnaround of exactly 3000 points. Any more questions?
drywalldog Offline
#99 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2009, 1:47 AM EST
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Markets swing on their own, neat, guess nothing anyone does makes them go up or down then. You can't have it both ways.
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#100 Posted: Tue, Sep 15 2009, 3:03 AM EST
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