I believe these cigars are may of bision pucks!! I have had them in stogie storage for several months (? - a long time now), and they still taste bad. It was mentioned above, they make a good yard cigar. The ones I have taste as if they had been sored in the yard, over by the dog house. Oh well, each of us enjoy different cigars, this just happens to be one I can say nothing good about. IMHO