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"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01

President Bush pledged anew Friday that Osama bin Laden will be taken "dead or alive."AP, 12/14/01

I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him." G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02

Sarah Palin said Obama was 'palling around with terrorists'.

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I believe that part of the reason we have a difficult situation is because we made a bad judgment going into Iraq in the first place when we hadn't finished the job of hunting down bin Laden and crushing al-Qaida.

And we have a difficult situation in Pakistan. So what happened was we got distracted, we diverted resources, and ultimately bin Laden escaped, set up base camps in the mountains of Pakistan in the northwest provinces there.

They are now raiding our troops in Afghanistan, destabilizing the situation. They're stronger now than at any time since 2001. And that's why I think it's so important for us to reverse course because that's the central front on terrorism. They are plotting to kill Americans right now. As Secretary Gates, the Defense secretary, said, the war against terrorism began in that region, and that's where it will end.

So part of the reason I think it's so important for us to end the war in Iraq is to be able to get more troops into Afghanistan, put more pressure on the Afghan government to do what it needs to do, eliminate some of the drug trafficking that's funding terrorism.

But I do believe that we have to change our policies with Pakistan. We can't coddle, as we did, a dictator, give him billions of dollars, and then he's making peace treaties with the Taliban and militants. What I have said is we're going encourage democracy in Pakistan, expand our non-military aid to Pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants.

And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out.

We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.

Obama October 2008 in a debate with McCain

Promise Kept.

ok,,

he's 1 for 100...

he's a shoo in for 2012

Wise up...

He had no choice but to take out Osama this time and good for him. If he decided not to and it got out that he declined he'd be tarred and feathered..

nice try.. Sasha..

Heh, kills you doesn't it, just hurts you deeply inside.

Yup, all timing. Damn that timing thing! Nothing to do with priorities or anything like that, maybe diverting most of our resources to Iraq where no one who was involved with 9/11 was or anything. Nothing to do with Bush saying he didn't care where OBL was. Just that damn timing. What luck Obama has!

That whole financial meltdown during Bush's term, just timing. Bad luck.

All just luck and timing.

I have done no such thing. The right's refusal to give the administration credit for this accomplishment is un-American and un-patriotic.

Republicans were saying Clinton was responsible for 9/11 when Bush was President, and now they are saying Bush is responsible for getting Osama when Obama is President. Reagan was responsible for the economy under Clinton, and Clinton was responsible for the economy under Bush, but Obama is responsible for the economy as soon as he took office.

Seriously, it's f'd up.

I hear a cuckoo clock.

What was Bush's plan?

Osama's dead and FuzzNJ is still miserable.

Turn that frown around.

Sooooooooo, are Osama-bama and Pelosi going to end the 2 wars now like they promised they would?

Or are they going to continue 3 wars instead??


just wondrin.

Yes, this forum is a political forum and this thread should never have even been posted here. By doing so, you have MADE this into a political debate and have indeed dimimshied this significance of this.


The right decision by Obama? The decision was made and carried out by our military. Obama merely approved it. It would have made no difference if it were GW, Clinton, or any other CIF.

The brave souls that allow you to enjoy your freedom made this happen, and those that want to cry about this being a right/left issue need to get the FU*# Out!

He posted his opinion, you posted yours, and I posted mine. I think I understand that it is an option whether to post or not, but thanks for the advice...

Back at cha my brutha!

FGM said : The brave souls that allow you to enjoy your freedom made this happen, and those that want to cry about this being a right/left issue need to get the FU*# Out!


HOO-yah bro...

I don't know if anyone remembers that the Bin Laden family are business associates of the Bush family's. I agree that we attacked the wrong country in the beginning but we took another figure who wanted to destroy the American way of life and did it before any of his crazy kids could come into power or join the Osama cause...

There isn't a President that killed anyone, except maybe GW (George Washington not Bush). It was an underpaid, true public servant that is putting their life in harms way to defend the way we live.

On to the way we live... Mr. Obama pass the spending bill for 2011 with a DOD budget of $1,413,000,000,000.00. This is 20 times higher than number 2, China, who is supposed to be our ally. With this kind of spending we are not going to be able to continue "our way of life." The American dollar continues to drop, which in turn makes everything more expensive and unaffordable to those who are losing their jobs and not making any money. We are spending roughly 10% of the national debt to defend ourselves when just 10 years ago the bill was $291,100,000,000.00. Do the math, in 10 years we have almost QUADRUPLED the defense budget.

It makes me question:

#1. Who are we defending ourselves from?

And #2. Is there an Alien attack coming that we are trying to prepare for? The Space Invader kind...

You guys rock and I love to hear both sides and POVs...

I don't know why I bother....There are none so blind as those who don't want to see....




There are now only 5 forums to post on...I'M FREE!

Buh Bye..............

Fuzz... You ever played sports? When you lose it is the COACH's fault (Obama), and when you win it is the TEAM's victory (the US Military). If it wasn't for the young men and women who sign up to be paid $1500 a month to risk their lives defending the great nation that I live in there wouldn't have been anyone to pull a trigger. Obama, and the rest of the Presidents, get paid a LOT more and only have to wield a pen to authorize said trigger to be pulled.

Fuzz... Did you serve in a military branch?

Fuzz... The DOD budget has gone from $300 Billion to $1.4 Trillion which WAY more than "almost doubled."

Remember this includes all branches of American defense (i.e. Homeland, Military, Secret programs).

Talking about a brain fart... (all the faces he made in the final moments)

I totally agree Papa... I served for 5 years and never once did I get to sit in a big cooshy office and sign papers. Obama never served in our military, so in my eyes he doesn't get credit for being the victor. The men and women in uniform do, they are the ones who trained day and night for God knows how long for that one moment where Osama gets a bullet through the turbin...

I can't even compare Obama to a coach he is more like the team owner, sits in the box seats, in no danger of someone even spilling a drink on him. At least Bush would have given credit to the military...

What? You're saying Obama did not?

"Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and al Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of al Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot."

"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice."

"We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day."

Right from the damn speech he made on Sunday night.

Also, I have seen Andy Card, Condi Rice and Peter King all on television saying Bush deserves credit. Rush and Hannity have been saying the same thing. That's who I know of and heard, there are probably many more. So as a liberal/Democrat we should not say great job Mr. President and let those on the right take credit when they are not even in office?

Ridiculous.

My apologies, it seems this quote in the original post:

I don't know where Bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

is not a direct quote. I got it from a disreputable source apparently. Unfortunately many sites have it as a fact, but upon further research it does not seem to be accurate.

Carry on.

I guess I have to explain myself...

"we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government...

What is this WE chit? Does he have a mouse in his pocket? He wasn't apart of gathering intel, he wasn't apart disrupting terrorist attacks, and he still doesn't give credit to the guys who got their legs blown off and the ones who can't sleep at night because of some mental defect...

Bush doesn't deserve credit, none of them are willing actually go out there and fight for their country and the freedom that let them become so rich and powerful. The middle class military gets the credit..


When rich men wage war, the poor die!!! Then the rich men want part of the credit when they didn't lift a finger...

Such a petty, pitiful thing to quibble about. We as in us as in America as in c'mon, give me a break.


Your post is just another example that proves my point, "The right's refusal to give the administration credit for this accomplishment is un-American and un-patriotic."

Fuzz your too easy to hook and care way too much what people who disagree with you think. There are plenty here that aren't right wingers that discuss things reasonably, this is why you get people rattling you chain.
Obama deserves credit yes. But that is really unimportant because there are people like you that seem more obsessed with that than the victory itself. And yeah people from the right were looking for him to say "I" and "on my order" so what.......If he doesn't like it quit. Not like W was treated so nicely by the press and they're almost the same president.

I don't see it that way. I am the only liberal here that takes everyone on and regardless of how it may appear, I'm never rattled or upset.

I am not obsessed with giving Obama credit, and neither is this administration. You may have noticed no one in the administration is on tv bragging about it. What I am concerned about is fighting the right wing's version of events that would rather give the previous administration 'credit' than to even acknowledge this administration's efforts. I have been reading right wing sites since the announcement and see the meme's being spread around in those circles, some of which have made it here. Mine is the other side, this thread is a response to what I've read here and elsewhere. Don't like it, don't read.