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Drathaar Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 5:16 AM EST
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Her newest book. I'll give a book review for you. It gets released June 6th, so I'll have it reviewed by the 12th.
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Bjaardker Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:43 AM EST
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Ahh the genius that gave us such sage wisdom such as:

"We should invade their [Middle Eastern] countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

"I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning"

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas [who is Lebanese] to sit within yards of the president."

"God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."

"When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty.We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors."

To a disabled Vietnam vet: "People like you caused us to lose that war."

"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."

"The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail."

"I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly."

"[Anti-war Democrats] know that the American people support defending America, unlike them. Their real feelings are coming out as much as they can right now, which is that they're desperately dying to provide aid and support to al-Qaeda."

"Americans understand that Manhattan is the Soviet Union."

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

"Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven 'principles'of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life — economics, work, personality, even litter removal."
JSD Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:26 AM EST
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She is smokin hot - a complete idiot - but smokin.....
zoinks Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 8:09 AM EST
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Don't know who John Walker is, and I don't know which vet she was talking to, other than that you're right, it's sage wisdom.

Glad you agree.
JonR Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 8:36 AM EST
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"I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning"



Amen to that sister.




JonR
Drathaar Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 12:41 PM EST
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Copy and paste Bj? In searching for the Veteran quote I found your source for the copy/paste on my first hit. I knew the veteran quote had to be made up, turns out it was a misquote.

You can find out what she said here:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2496

She was talking to a left winger who was missing the facts.

Now for the big one. Your first quote about invading Mid East countries and converting them. Do you know the whole story of that quote? I do.

On 9/11 she watched the buildings go down from across the river. Then she got a phone call from a friends husband. Her friend, Barbara Olson, was on Flight 77 and was dead (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/pentagon.olson/). Ann sat down and wrote the article that quote is taken from. She was pissed off and had every right to be. You want to fault her for that? I don't.

Her Kwanzaa remarks are true. I suggest you study the man who created Kwanzaa before knocking Ann for saying it. His name is Maulana Karenga, a socialist. He literally invented Kwanzaa and can show no proof of any historical celebration for a winter harvest. He uses maize for part of the ceremony. Maize was never in Africa, its a New World food. Anyway, Ann is correct about it (as she is in 99% of what she says).

Finally, John Walker is the American Taliban. The guy found and captured in Afganistan fighting for the Taliban. Of course he should have been executed, and it should have been done on the spot.
Charlie Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:17 PM EST
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I happen to like Ann Coulter, and know that there are many in the DemLeft who would love to discredit her, but they cannot.

Charlie
elp007 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:25 PM EST
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horse face.
victor808 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:25 PM EST
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Yep, she was misquoted. The actual quote (to a disabled vet, although she claims to not have known he was disabled) was: "no wonder you guys lost".

No much better.

As far as Kwanzza goes... Its labeled as an african american holiday. Maize is a north american food product. Whats the problem? It isn't an African holiday. One has to be in america to be African American.

On John Walker... ???? I have to say, what does an american taliban have to do with college liberals???? There is nothing liberal about the taliban... socialism is where the college liberals go, not religious facism (thats where the college conservatives go). Whether he should have been executed is up to the geneva convention. If you want to take our president at his word, we were at war with the Taliban, that makes Walker a POW and subject to all rights associated with it.
victor808 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:27 PM EST
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I have to believe that no one is as crazy as she sounds and that somewhere she is laughing her a$$ off at the money she is rolling in from the book sales.

She's probably a very moderate conservative and just realized that more people will listen to her if she were more inflammatory. What is disturbing is that people not only listen, they seem to believe her.
Rug Vader Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:43 PM EST
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Kzanza was invented by a felon (he tortured two women he felt had turned on him) and is based on nothing.

BTW vicky, to me she is a moderate consevitive.

I'd put this list up agianst some of Howard Dean's lines anyday. Most of this list is sarcasm anyway.

And she is hot.
Rug Vader Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 1:46 PM EST
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John Walker was known as the "American Taliban" in some news reports. He was a white kid from Marin County California that was captured while fighting with the taliban.
tey Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 2:33 PM EST
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to rug

Happy Kwanzaa and Viva La Raza
victor808 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 3:32 PM EST
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Amelia, is that you? The only person who ever called me Viky was a cute little modern dancer named Amelia Ngoh. I'll have to assume that is you.

So, Amelia. Who cares if Kwanzzaa was invented by a felon. If I recall, Jesus Christ (the inventor of what I'm assuming is your religion) was crucified for crimes. From an unbiased observer's point of view (someone who is not religious) the only difference between the two is that one has been around 2k years... Which really isn't that long in history's view.

As far as Walker being a stupid kid from cali(?) who joined the Taliban... still has nothing to do with liberals, just stupid kids.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 3:53 PM EST
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Drathaar
erkwgz Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 4:02 PM EST
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Vapid bitch.
erkwgz Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 4:03 PM EST
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Vapid bitch.
adroomi Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 4:31 PM EST
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"I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning"

Somewhere in Iran or some other country, a terrorist is thinking the same thing about America.

Man...the things she says. She's like a little horse-faced terrorist isn't she?

The part about Timothy McVeigh blowing up a building in NYC. Wow...that's heavy. Her ONLY thought is that she wished he'd blown up another building instead of the one in OKC. Never mind the 168 people (including children) that were killed.....that's not important to her. She just wishes they were other people.

So....she's a horse-faced, terrorism supporting, anti-American.

Good book I bet.

The crooked members of the communist Chinese government would LOVE to have her on their side. Good little servant to the machine that she is.
JonR Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 4:38 PM EST
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"The crooked members of the communist Chinese government would LOVE to have her on their side. Good little servant to the machine that she is."


...and then there were two.





JonR
billyjackson Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 4:43 PM EST
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"I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote."

i'm all for the literacy test.
adroomi Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 5:32 PM EST
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One of my favorite professors, who marched beside MLK in Detroit was labeled functionally illiterate until the age of 17. He went on to become the first black professor in the state of Oklahoma and to author and co-author 26 books and hundreds of papers. He's now the Dean of an entire school. Also a good friend and colleauge.

Being from Alabama, he used words like "tote" instead of "carry" in the early 50's. Uncle Sam and the Dept of Education put him into special education.

I can think of about half the state of North Carolina that would be able to vote if a literacy test were required. Dang mumblers remind me of Boomhauer on King of the Hill.
rugrunner Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:04 PM EST
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Funny how you are so sensitive when others are doing the talking Adroomi. When it's you it just hyperbole or sarcasm, but everyone else means exactly what they say at all times right?

You meant colleague right?

How does he find time to run a school and be a techie for an aviation company? And at his age?

Or is he on the board of directors with you?
victor808 Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:22 PM EST
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I'm actually for a literacy test as well... Probably end up with a better president.

And for that matter, anyone who is going to vote anti-abortion should be required to adopt a child (I know, left field, but if we are talking about voting reqmts)
jetblasted Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:28 PM EST
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my goodnes . . .
adroomi Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:47 PM EST
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Rug,
Yes, I spelled colleague wrong...thanks.

On your other points, I'm not sure I'm following you.

Why would the Dean of a major university be a "techie" for an aviation company?

He's not a member of the Board of Directors with my company, but he'd be a likely candidate. We could definately use his advice on a few things. He's already on about 5 or 6 other boards with other firms though, so I'm sure his plate is full.

Dr. George Henderson has been a teacher, a colleague and better yet, a friend to me since I first met him. I'm honored to have him as a colleague and fortunate to have such a wonderful man as a friend.

http://www.twu.edu/lemi/henderson.htm
billyjackson Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 6:58 PM EST
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adroomi

i'm completely fine with half the state of whatever not voting if they can't read by age 18.
adroomi Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:11 PM EST
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BillyJackson,
Literacy tests discriminate in that they disallow folks that can't read, or for that matter can't read proper "american" english to NOT vote. In 1965 we got rid of literacy tests for a reason.

Shortly afterwards, the folks that didn't want minorities voting used other methods. "They posted armed guards and real and make-believe policemen at the polls. They told voters they could cast their votes on alternative days, even after the actual election was over. They demanded forms of identification not required by law. They told voters outstanding warrants or utility bills would prevent them from voting. They said immigration officials would haunt the polls, checking on voters' immigration status. They constructed phony voter purge lists which included names of longtime legitimate voters. They loosed the FBI and State Police on elderly voters. They videotaped voters approaching polling places. They set-up so called “ballot security” and “ballot integrity” programs, based on the racist presumption that minority voters are inveterate election-day cheaters, and they harassed and intimated those voters at will." This is not the America I want.

America is full of hypocrisy! For example, why can't a convicted felon vote? If he or she has served their sentance, why can't they vote?

Why can't immigrants that are not citizens vote? Don't they pay taxes too? I seem to remember a certain tea party in Boston that dealt with the same issue.

By the way...here's a sample literacy test from Texas. There are 100 questions. If you miss 6 or more, you are not eligible to vote....

Would you be able to vote in Texas?

WHAT ARE THE COLORS OF OUR FLAG?
HOW MANY STARS ARE THERE IN OUR FLAG?
WHAT COLOR ARE THE STARS ON OUR FLAG?
WHAT DO THE STARS ON THE FLAG MEAN?
HOW MANY STRIPES ARE THERE IN THE FLAG?
WHAT COLOR ARE THE STRIPES?
WHAT DO THE STRIPES ON THE FLAG MEAN?
HOW MANY STATES ARE THERE IN THE UNION?
WHAT IS THE 4TH OF JULY?
WHAT IS THE DATE OF INDEPENDENCE DAY?
INDEPENDENCE FROM WHOM?
WHAT COUNTRY DID WE FIGHT DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR?
WHO WAS THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TODAY?
WHO IS THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TODAY?
WHO ELECTS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?
WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IF THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DIE?
FOR HOW LONG DO WE ELECT THE PRESIDENT?
WHAT IS THE CONSTITUTION?
CAN THE CONSTITUTION BE CHANGED?
WHAT DO WE CALL A CHANGE TO THE CONSTITUTION?
HOW MANY CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS ARE THERE TO THE CONSTITUTION?
HOW MANY BRANCHES ARE THERE IN OUR GOVERNMENT?
WHAT ARE THE THREE BRANCHES OF OUR GOVERNMENT?
WHAT IS THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT?
WHO MAKES THE LAWS IN THE UNITED STATES?
WHAT IS CONGRESS?
WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF CONGRESS?
WHO ELECTS CONGRESS?
HOW MANY SENATORS ARE THERE IN CONGRESS?
CAN YOU NAME THE TWO SENATORS FROM YOUR STATE?
FOR HOW LONG DO WE ELECT EACH SENATOR?
HOW MANY REPRESENTATIVES ARE THERE IN CONGRESS?
FOR HOW LONG DO WE ELECT THE REPRESENTATIVES?
WHAT IS THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT?
WHAT IS THE JUDICIARY BRANCH OF OUR GOVERNMENT?
WHAT ARE THE DUTIES OF THE SUPREME COURT?
WHAT IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE UNITED STATES?
WHAT IS THE BILL OF RIGHTS?
WHAT IS THE CAPITAL OF YOUR STATE?
WHO IS THE CURRENT GOVERNOR OF YOUR STATE?
WHO BECOMES PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A. IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE-PRESIDENT SHOULD DIE?
WHO IS THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME COURT?
CAN YOU NAME THE THIRTEEN ORIGINAL STATES?
WHO SAID, "GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"?
WHICH COUNTRIES WERE OUR ENEMIES DURING WORLD WAR II?
WHAT ARE THE 49TH AND 50TH STATES OF THE UNION?
HOW MANY TERMS CAN A PRESIDENT SERVE?
WHO WAS MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.?
WHO IS THE HEAD OF YOUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT?
ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION, A PERSON MUST MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE TO BECOME PRESIDENT. NAME ONE OF THESE REQUIREMENTS.
WHY ARE THERE 100 SENATORS IN THE SENATE?
WHO SELECTS THE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES?
HOW MANY SUPREME COURT JUSTICES ARE THERE?
WHY DID THE PILGRIMS COME TO AMERICA?
WHAT IS THE HEAD EXECUTIVE OF A STATE GOVERNMENT CALLED?
WHAT IS THE HEAD EXECUTIVE OF A CITY GOVERNMENT CALLED?
WHAT HOLIDAY WAS CELEBRATED FOR THE FIRST TIME BY THE AMERICAN COLONISTS?
WHO WAS THE MAIN WRITER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE?
WHEN WAS THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE ADOPTED?
WHAT IS THE BASIC BELIEF OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE?
WHAT IS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM OF THE UNITED STATES?
WHO WROTE "THE STAR-SPANGLED BANNER"?
WHERE DOES FREEDOM OF SPEECH COME FROM?
WHAT IS THE MINIMUM VOTING AGE IN THE UNITED STATES?
WHO SIGNS BILLS INTO LAW?
WHAT IS THE HIGHEST COURT IN THE UNITED STATES?
WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT DURING THE CIVIL WAR?
WHAT DID THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION DO?
WHAT SPECIAL GROUP ADVISES THE PRESIDENT?
WHICH PRESIDENT IS CALLED THE "FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY"?
WHAT IMMIGRATION AND NATURALIZATION SERVICE FORM IS USED TO APPLY TO BECOME A NATURALIZED CITIZEN?
WHO HELPED THE PILGRIMS IN AMERICA?
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE SHIP THAT BROUGHT THE PILGRIMS TO AMERICA?
WHAT WERE THE 13 ORIGINAL STATES OF THE UNITED STATES CALLED?
NAME 3 RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS GUARANTEED BY THE BILL OF RIGHTS.
WHO HAS THE POWER TO DECLARE WAR?
WHAT KIND OF GOVERNMENT DOES THE UNITED STATES HAVE?
WHICH PRESIDENT FREED THE SLAVES?
IN WHAT YEAR WAS THE CONSTITUTION WRITTEN?
WHAT ARE THE FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION CALLED?
NAME ONE PURPOSE OF THE UNITED NATIONS.
WHERE DOES CONGRESS MEET?
WHOSE RIGHTS ARE GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS?
WHAT IS THE INTRODUCTION TO THE CONSTITUTION CALLED?
NAME ONE BENEFIT OF BEING A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.
WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT RIGHT GRANTED TO U.S. CITIZENS?
WHAT IS THE UNITED STATES CAPITOL?
WHAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE?
WHERE IS THE WHITE HOUSE LOCATED?
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICIAL HOME?
NAME ONE RIGHT GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
WHO IS THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE U.S. MILITARY?
WHICH PRESIDENT WAS THE FIRST COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF OF THE U.S. MILITARY?
IN WHAT MONTH DO WE VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENT?
IN WHAT MONTH IS THE NEW PRESIDENT INAUGURATED?
HOW MANY TIMES MAY A SENATOR BE RE-ELECTED?
HOW MANY TIMES MAY A CONGRESSMAN BE RE-ELECTED?
WHAT ARE THE 2 MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES IN THE U.S. TODAY?
HOW MANY STATES ARE THERE IN THE UNITED STATES?
billyjackson Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:18 PM EST
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whatever

if you are an american citizen at least 18 and can't read, i still have no problem not allowing that person to vote
8trackdisco Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:19 PM EST
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"I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning"
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Finally, SOMEONE has a policy on North Korea. It's about time.
8trackdisco Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:23 PM EST
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'..Why can't immigrants that are not citizens vote?..'
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Lonely in Asia tonight?
adroomi Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:28 PM EST
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BillyJackson,
That's just it....literacy tests do NOT measure a person's ability to read. They test any number of things from the ability to read and write, to the ability to design rocket engines.

Prior to 1965, when the voting rights act was passed, literacy tests were being "used" by certain political groups to earn favor in the voter turnout. What is this fascination with back-stepping that Americans seem to have these days?

Literacy tests are designed, and used to keep "certain" voters from voting. It's plain and simple.

In Northeastern Canada a few years back, one of the literacy tests for voting was given in French. Yep....talk about setting up your "voters" for a sure win, eh?

By the way, since you assumed that "literacy" meant only the ability to read, and were wrong, you therefore are illiterate. You can no longer vote.

:)
adroomi Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:33 PM EST
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8track,
I'm not sure what you mean by your comment about "asia."

In Asia right now, it's anywhere from 7:00 am to 2:00 pm. Regardless, I'm in Illinois sitting at a sports bar watching a movie and typing on my laptop. Where are you?

Do you have any comment about "why can't immigrants vote?" or do you just like running your mouth with no real points?

The fact is, our founding fathers were tired of paying taxes to the King of England and NOT being able to vote, so they dumped all his tea in the harbour. We learned that in grade school as one of the "events" and attitudes that makes America great.

The sad thing is, folks that are not US Citizens, but are legally here and pay taxes cannot vote in America. It seems we "forgot" what makes us great.
Drathaar Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:38 PM EST
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John Walker was a college student. He dropped out to "study" in the Middle East. John Walker = college liberal.

Just for you doomi...err...victor :)
8trackdisco Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:39 PM EST
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You're in Illinios?

For how long?

Want to meet for a drink?
8trackdisco Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:41 PM EST
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'..The sad thing is, folks that are not US Citizens, but are legally here and pay taxes cannot vote in America..'
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It's a shame we are forcing them to stay here.

You are in a sports bar, typing on your laptop. Good to see you spending time with your friends.
adroomi Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 7:56 PM EST
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Actually I'm with my brother, his wife, my mother, my father, and a guy I went to high school with. I'm typing a report that I have to do for work, and surfing this site between emails that are getting me the data I need. I love wireless.

If you want to meet, I'm all for that. I'm in Chicago right now, but will head down to Bloomington next week. Perhaps even to Springfield. Where are you?
soundsgood Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 9:59 PM EST
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horse
face
jack
ass
jjohnson28 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 10:18 PM EST
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Don't be so hard on yourself sg...LOL
victor808 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 11:18 PM EST
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Drath... a college student who drops out to join a hard-line religious military group is not a college liberal. I've lived with college liberals. I knew one guy who actually was socialist (self-identified). While I don't identify with his politics any more than yours, I would have to argue again that hard-line religious is strictly the domain of the right wing nut jobs (whether they by christian or muslim/islam).

Remember, in the Soviet Union the first thing the Communist Party did when it came into power was control religion (okay, maybe not the first... but it was in there amongst killing off dissent). Thousands of churches were torn to the ground. Moscow, a city of hundreds of Eastern Orthodox Cathedrals was reduced to only a few, priests were killed in labor camps and bishops were executed by firing squad. Stalin, of all people, brought the church back to legitimacy in the 1940s and allowed the priests to exist and some churches to open (although I believe going to church would hurt one's chances of being a good party member).

While I haven't gotten to the point in my life where I would advocate wholesale slaughter of priests, or silly little socialist policies, I think it is inaccurate to identify the Taliban with left-wing-nutjobs. If anything, it belongs more with right-wing-fanatics, a group which DOES require religious adherence.
Drathaar Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 11:42 PM EST
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The right-wing does not "require religious adherence" ado...victor.

Talk about stereotyping. Lets look at the facts about Walker:

California
Parents confirmed liberals
College student in CA
Hates America

Being from CA doesn't make you a libby, but you're off to one hell of a start. Parents don't control how you vote, but they have a major influence. Colleges are liberal indoctrination grounds, especially in CA. Know any righties that hate America? Not me, that's a lefty requirement.

So once again I state: John Walker = College Liberal.
Drathaar Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 11:45 PM EST
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elp007, erkwgz, soundsgood...

Can't attack the message, attack the messenger eh?

And jjohnson28, ROFL!
adroomi Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Apr 14 2006, 11:57 PM EST
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"Colleges are liberal indoctrination grounds, especially in CA. Know any righties that hate America? Not me, that's a lefty requirement."

Who IS this guy? Some sort of MacCarthy wannabe?

Mao Zhe-Dung hated educated people. He sent college educated liberals to re-education camps in the mountains of central China.

Pol Pot hated educated people. He sent college educated liberals to the Killing Fields.

People like this scare me.
adroomi Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:02 AM EST
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in an interview, Coulter was asked why her book was being released on 06/06/06 and if it was an accident.

She responded:

""No. It's my little tribute to liberals, to have it come out on six, six, six."

Something fishing about this chick........

I wonder if she supports and buys Proctor and Gamble products?
adroomi Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:08 AM EST
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Currently Ms Coulter is facing felony charges for voter registration fraud. Why can't this commie girl be a good Christian?
victor808 Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:10 AM EST
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Drath,

Your logic isn't the best. But we'll try to work with it. Lets start with the right wing religious adherence. Note, I did NOT say conservative (different thing), I'm talking about the group which would believe Coulter's ideas. To be right wing, one would have to believe (for example) that "god gave us this planet". This requires religion, ergo to be right wing would require being religious. One can vote conservatively (against social services, for military spending, against higher taxes/larger gov't) without being religious, but you cannot believe what she says without it. This is much closer to the Taliban than a left-wing nutjob would be.

On to the next round of questionable logic. "Colleges are liberal indoctrination grounds"... Got that from David Horowitz, eh? I suspect he went to college, does that make him liberal? He lives in CA... must be liberal. Was an anti-war protester in the 60s... therefore he hates america, must be liberal.

I think, using your logic (and David Horowitz's talking points) we have successfully proven that David Horowitz is a college liberal, despite advising for Bush and trying to restrict academic freedoms.

This is idiocity in its greatest form. "college is liberal breeding grounds"? Then why are there young republican clubs? (I seem to remember when I was in college, one of the young republicans shot the president of the young republicans over some sort of gay love triangle). If college was liberal breeding grounds we wouldn't have a Republican party. They would not be educated!

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#46 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:11 AM EST
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Adroomi, they are talking points from David Horowitz, the "bulldog" for the Republican party.
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#47 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:11 AM EST
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Drathaar

vapid bitch

horse face.

horse
face
jack

since you are the messenger, i don't think you are being attacked. they are attacking the physical appearance of coulter.

i would have attacked her for her potty mouth and her skill at avoiding being committed to an asylum, since it is very obvious she is a nut case.
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#48 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:18 AM EST
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I think he is saying that he has no message of his own, whatever Coulter says is his message too?... just my guess.
adroomi Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:20 AM EST
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Coulter is a heroine to uneducated fools that actually believe she cares about them.

Her crap is so full of contradiction, it's not even funny.

Her new book accuses liberals of being "Godless." Then she goes on to release it using "666" as a catch phrase. If liberals are "Godless," then why do they even care about "666?"

I believe this was a lame attempt at implying that liberals must be satanists. But, of course, if you are a satanist you also believe in God, you just decided to pick the other side.

666 means nothing to a "godless atheist" (a redundant phrase, of course). If you don't believe in God, you certainly don't believe in Satan. Atheists, on the whole, are rational people who would like their fellow human beings to stop believing in the superstitious ideas developed by primitives thousands of years ago.

And if you think that atheists can't be moral, I'd like you to consider the fact that the concept of morality is much much older than the concept of religion. Moral behavior was needed for humans to adopt social structures in the first place; religion came after.

"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

-Steven Weinberg

adroomi Offline
#50 Posted: Sat, Apr 15 2006, 12:24 AM EST
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"In the same way, the Government of the Reich, which regards Christianity as the unshakable foundation of the morals and moral code of the nation, attaches the greatest value to friendly relations with the Holy See, and is endeavoring to develop them."

Hitler's speech to the Reichstag, Berlin
March 23, 1933


"As Fuehrer of the German people and Chancellor of the Reich, I can thank God at this moment that he has so wonderfully blessed us in our hard struggle for what is our right, and beg Him that we and all other nations may find the right way, so that not only the German people but all Europe may once more be granted the blessing of peace."

Hitler's speech to the Reichstag, Berlin
October 6, 1939


"We pray to God that He may lead our soldiers on the path and bless them as hitherto."
Hitler's Order of the Day, Berlin
April 6, 1941


"GOD KNOWS THAT I WANTED PEACE. But I can do nothing but protect the interests of the Reich with those means which, thank God, are at our disposal. "
Hitler's Speech to the Reichstag, Berlin
May 4, 1941


You see, any jerk can pretend to commandeer God to support their cause however unjust. Thank God Ann doesn't have the intelligence, resourcefulness, cunning, and inspirational talent of a Hitler. In fact, the one thing in common she does have with Hitler is an ability to twist words and ideas to marginalize and disparage a group of people.

Thankfully, her small band of adherents is limited to weak minded, shallow thinking, empty-headed skinheads and hate consumed rednecks......and of course Drathaar.

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