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smokestaxx Offline
#51 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 6:38 PM EST
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snagged me a box to. hope there the real deal. can't wait to find out! Herfing
Whistlebritches Offline
#52 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 6:46 PM EST
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chazbo wrote:
Looks like CI is going to have a few returns this weekd'oh!



They say they are from 2007 stock.....If in fact this is true these are the real deal.We'll see.


Ron
wheelrite Offline
#53 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 8:14 PM EST
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They suck

don't waste your $$$

Buy CCs


wheel
hambone71 Offline
#54 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 9:30 PM EST
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Of course, I ordered a box of toros as well. My concern is that CI's current offering, which is an attempt at a re-make, also gives the same description as far as the 93 rating and flavor profile. Guess we'll see.
Rut-Ro! Offline
#55 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 9:44 PM EST
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I would like to try these and I don't typically buy boxes anymore. If someone would like to trade for five of either Toro or Robusto. Please PM me. .

THANKS!
smokestaxx Offline
#56 Posted: Sun, Apr 8 2012, 10:01 PM EST
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Rut-Ro! wrote:
I would like to try these and I don't typically buy boxes anymore. If someone would like to trade for five of either Toro or Robusto. Please PM me. .

THANKS!

pm sent
Rut-Ro! Offline
#57 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 5:58 AM EST
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smokestaxx wrote:
pm sent


thank you!
DadZilla3 Offline
#58 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 3:13 PM EST
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Anyone know for sure why La Perla changed the blend and the packaging of the Black Pearl morado in the first place?

Well blended cigars attractively packaged are certainly not rare, and they always seem to find plenty of buyers as they were originally blended and packaged. Think

dpnewell Offline
#59 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 3:51 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Anyone know for sure why La Perla changed the blend and the packaging of the Black Pearl morado in the first place?

Well blended cigars attractively packaged are certainly not rare, and they always seem to find plenty of buyers as they were originally blended and packaged. Think



PM sent.
jespear Offline
#60 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 4:17 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Anyone know for sure why La Perla changed the blend and the packaging of the Black Pearl morado in the first place?

Well blended cigars attractively packaged are certainly not rare, and they always seem to find plenty of buyers as they were originally blended and packaged. Think


dpnewell wrote:
PM sent.

Think
guerin461 Offline
#61 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 7:27 PM EST
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anyone tried the Belicoso?

Toros are sold out.
smokestaxx Offline
#62 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 7:31 PM EST
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some one should post when they get their box so we can solve the mystery of the real deal. I'm anxious to find out
dubleuhb Offline
#63 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 7:34 PM EST
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The suspense is killin me.
schusler Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 7:35 PM EST
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guerin461 wrote:
anyone tried the Belicoso?

Toros are sold out.
someone posted that it was the cigar that got the 93 rating
DadZilla3 Offline
#65 Posted: Mon, Apr 9 2012, 8:45 PM EST
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schusler wrote:
someone posted that it was the cigar that got the 93 rating

Once upon a time it was picked #16 of the 25 top cigars of 2008...but since then quién sabe realmente?
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/cigars/top25detail/year/2008/rank/16
dpnewell Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 3:36 PM EST
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I've been looking all over for this article, and finally found it. This is an interview with Doug Wood, the founder of LPH, back in the fall of '07, the year the Morado was introduced.

“We wish we had enough of this tobacco to produce several years’ worth of our new Black Pearl Morado (Purple) premium cigar,” explains Doug Wood, founder and president of La Perla Habana Cigars. “But, its featured Cameroon wrapper is in shorter supply than we expected, so we can only offer limited supplies of Morado in three shapes: Robusto (4.75" x 52) Toro (6" x 50), and Torpedo (6.25" x 52).” In 2005, La Perla Habana marked its tenth year in business, and this was the cigar Wood wanted for that celebration. He first experienced the character of this blend through Rafael Guerra, a Cuban friend he met on a trip to the island’s Vuelta Abajo region. As the anniversary approached, however, Wood was disappointed to learn there would not be enough of this Cameroon wrapper leaf for production. He would not substitute another wrapper, feeling it necessary to have the best for this cigar. “The tobacco is now ready,” reports Wood. “Its long-filler blend combines genuine African Cameroon wrapper, Nicaraguan-grown Habano binder, and Nicaraguan filler tobaccos. The cigars are hand made in the Toraño family’s Esteli, Nicaragua, factory. ........

.......... The line has received much media attention, as well as earning excellent ratings and reviews by the cigar press. "Throughout history,” notes Wood, “the color purple ... morado ... has signified royalty. I believe Morado is the finest cigar we’ve made ... with the first one I smoked, I knew it was perfect.” Manufacturer’s suggested retail price for the Morado is $9. The Black Pearl Morado will be available at tobacco retailers nationwide this August .


Note the rare, limited wrapper and very limited production. Also the fact that they are Torano rolled (which makes sense once you smoke one). Futher proof that current production and these are not the same.
efinebloom Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 3:44 PM EST
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Someone should have their box by now!
dpnewell Offline
#68 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 5:19 PM EST
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efinebloom wrote:
Someone should have their box by now!


We should have, but due to the way things are now shipped from CI, we don't.

https://www.cigarbid.com...18096/Stinkn-CI-Shipping
smokestaxx Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 5:25 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I've been looking all over for this article, and finally found it. This is an interview with Doug Wood, the founder of LPH, back in the fall of '07, the year the Morado was introduced.

“We wish we had enough of this tobacco to produce several years’ worth of our new Black Pearl Morado (Purple) premium cigar,” explains Doug Wood, founder and president of La Perla Habana Cigars. “But, its featured Cameroon wrapper is in shorter supply than we expected, so we can only offer limited supplies of Morado in three shapes: Robusto (4.75" x 52) Toro (6" x 50), and Torpedo (6.25" x 52).” In 2005, La Perla Habana marked its tenth year in business, and this was the cigar Wood wanted for that celebration. He first experienced the character of this blend through Rafael Guerra, a Cuban friend he met on a trip to the island’s Vuelta Abajo region. As the anniversary approached, however, Wood was disappointed to learn there would not be enough of this Cameroon wrapper leaf for production. He would not substitute another wrapper, feeling it necessary to have the best for this cigar. “The tobacco is now ready,” reports Wood. “Its long-filler blend combines genuine African Cameroon wrapper, Nicaraguan-grown Habano binder, and Nicaraguan filler tobaccos. The cigars are hand made in the Toraño family’s Esteli, Nicaragua, factory. ........

.......... The line has received much media attention, as well as earning excellent ratings and reviews by the cigar press. "Throughout history,” notes Wood, “the color purple ... morado ... has signified royalty. I believe Morado is the finest cigar we’ve made ... with the first one I smoked, I knew it was perfect.” Manufacturer’s suggested retail price for the Morado is $9. The Black Pearl Morado will be available at tobacco retailers nationwide this August .


Note the rare, limited wrapper and very limited production. Also the fact that they are Torano rolled (which makes sense once you smoke one). Futher proof that current production and these are not the same.

just to clear things up, what your saying is that the current production are not the same (of course) but the boxes we ordered/should be receiving should still be the original?
dpnewell Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 6:53 PM EST
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smokestaxx wrote:
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just to clear things up, what your saying is that the current production are not the same (of course) but the boxes we ordered/should be receiving should still be the original?


Let's see if I can make this crystal clear.

1) Morado comes out in '07 in limited production with a rare Cameroon wrapper.
2) Cigar is considered a premium stick, sells at a premium price, and garners high reviews.
3) Doug Wood, owner of LPH states that label will be retired once wrapper is gone.
4) Production ends and by early 2010 last few boxes disappear from retailer's shelves.
5) Early 2011, cheap sticks, wrapped in the Morado band show up here, that are claimed to be “the same as the original”.
6) I acquire one, smoke it side by side with an original release, and pronounce it a “dog rocket imposter”. Other Morado fans come to the same conclusion.
7) CI Weekend Spotlight claims to have found some of the original release '07 premium sticks, and are clearing them out at about ½ what their dog rocket version is going for.
8) I order some, and then tell you folks about them.
9) You folks order a chit load of them.
10) Now we're all waiting with baited breath to see if what we ordered are really long lost, '07 release, original blend premium Morados, that CI found in an abandoned mine shaft, on the Island of Misfit Toys.

Got you up to speed?
smokestaxx Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2012, 7:04 PM EST
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yes yes. that last post of yours had me a little confused/disappointed d'oh! but now i got it!
can't wait to find out. thanx and that was a very crystal clear summary lol
dpnewell Offline
#72 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:16 AM EST
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Sticks are here:

Purple hinged top box - check
Silver printing - check
Divided cedar trays - check
Cedar sleeve & purple foot ribbon - check
Sharp band images & black border - check
Great looking Cameroon wrapper - check

Yes, folks, these sure look like the real deal. Gonna have to smoke one tonight.
efinebloom Offline
#73 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:20 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Sticks are here:

Purple hinged top box - check
Silver printing - check
Divided cedar trays - check
Cedar sleeve & purple foot ribbon - check
Sharp band images & black border - check
Great looking Cameroon wrapper - check

Yes, folks, these sure look like the real deal. Gonna have to smoke one tonight.


Anyone else feel like this? Applause Applause Applause
guerin461 Offline
#74 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:22 AM EST
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so these are the newer knockoffs, correct?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...bana-Morado-Belicoso-20/
SRH1 Offline
#75 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 11:29 AM EST
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efinebloom wrote:
Anyone else feel like this? Applause Applause Applause

Same here, but they do have the CA rating both inside and outside the box.....
TIGERCDW Offline
#76 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 1:33 PM EST
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SRH1 wrote:
Same here, but they do have the CA rating both inside and outside the box.....



CA Rating 93 sticker both inside and outside of box.

They taste good too.

Too bad I couldn't re-use these trays in a cooler though.

TIGER
TIGERCDW Offline
#77 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 1:39 PM EST
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guerin461 wrote:
so these are the newer knockoffs, correct?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...bana-Morado-Belicoso-20/



YES.

I don't see how they have the balls to call the knock-off a 93 rated smoke.

I am now smoking my first OR Morado and let me tell you,the shit knock-offs that I bought under the assumption that they were these,aree no where even close to the OR.

Since Steve swore up and down that the knock-offs were the OR I feel totally screwed by buying them as I did.

TIGER
banderl Offline
#78 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 1:57 PM EST
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So, how are they?
dpnewell Offline
#79 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:03 PM EST
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SRH1 wrote:
Same here, but they do have the CA rating both inside and outside the box.....


Then I am either wrong on when they got the 93 rating, or these sticks are from '08. Either way, they are one heck of a lot better then the current cr*p, and I'm more then satisfied.
hambone71 Offline
#80 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:09 PM EST
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Still waiting on mine. Should be here today. UPS usually hits me around 5:30 CST.
dpnewell Offline
#81 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:15 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
YES.

I don't see how they have the balls to call the knock-off a 93 rated smoke.

I am now smoking my first OR Morado and let me tell you,the shit knock-offs that I bought under the assumption that they were these,aree no where even close to the OR.

Since Steve swore up and down that the knock-offs were the OR I feel totally screwed by buying them as I did.

TIGER


I'm really glad that you're enjoying that stick, Chris. It's also nice to know that others now understand why this Morado knockoff thing has been such a pet peeve of mine. I'm doing a side by side Beli smoke off tonight, just to remind me how bad those knockoffs really are, lol.
TIGERCDW Offline
#82 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:33 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I'm really glad that you're enjoying that stick, Chris. It's also nice to know that others now understand why this Morado knockoff thing has been such a pet peeve of mine. I'm doing a side by side Beli smoke off tonight, just to remind me how bad those knockoffs really are, lol.



Don't waste your time.But I know you will anyway.

I smoked a knock-off first.As you know Dave they are filled with soft spots and have an uneven burn.

This Robusto is heavy in the hand,NO soft spots,burn is crisp and clean.

I'm almost an hour into it and the flavors are amazing.

I'm not a smoker that can pick out nuts,leather,coffee etc.

I can and will say this.

This OR has FLAVOR.

The knock-off to me just tastes like stale tobacco.

When I say stale tobacco,I know what I mean.I smoked cigarettes for just over 20yrs and had my share of stale tobacco.

I will even take this one step further.

IMO the PI maduro is better than the La Perla knock-off.

The above statement is not for shit and giggles but just my honest opinion.

To anyone here that bought these OR.If you do not want them,contact me and I will take them from you.

If it was not for CI's bait and switch with the La Perla line I would have easily bought 6 or more boxes of these.

I'm stuck with 1 though.

I did not want to take a chance and end up with the same crap I allready have in the cooler.

TIGER
tmccork Offline
#83 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:36 PM EST
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Toros were gone, but I picked up a box of the Belis...

@dpnewell - Let me know how you would compare them to the Robi so I know if I should grab a box of them as well

Thanks for the infor Herfing
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#84 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:37 PM EST
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They still avaiable at the mothership? I have one box on the way already, but thinking of ordering another.
Doug535 Offline
#85 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:42 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I'm really glad that you're enjoying that stick, Chris. It's also nice to know that others now understand why this Morado knockoff thing has been such a pet peeve of mine. I'm doing a side by side Beli smoke off tonight, just to remind me how bad those knockoffs really are, lol.



Hope these are as good as you say, got a box coming Friday(ordered Sunday). Got a fiver of the so called morados a few months ago, had 1 and thought it was a rocket, the rest are buried. Had high hopes for a 93 rated only to be totally let down. They should be in the "unsmokables" section!
dpnewell Offline
#86 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 2:47 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
To anyone here that bought these OR.If you do not want them,contact me and I will take them from you.

If it was not for CI's bait and switch with the La Perla line I would have easily bought 6 or more boxes of these.

I'm stuck with 1 though.

I did not want to take a chance and end up with the same crap I allready have in the cooler.

TIGER


Chris,
The link is still good. Go forth and grab your fill, while you still can.

http://www.cigarsinterna....com/html/spec_event.asp
TIGERCDW Offline
#87 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 3:05 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Chris,
The link is still good. Go forth and grab your fill, while you still can.

http://www.cigarsinterna....com/html/spec_event.asp



You're the MAN Dave.

Just grabbed 5 more boxes.

That should keep me happy for a little while.

Hell,I can smoke another one now.HaHa.

TIGER
harleyd31 Offline
#88 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 3:12 PM EST
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Just got another also - thanks and BTW the free shipping link is still good too!!!
smokestaxx Offline
#89 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 3:14 PM EST
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kinda wanna get another as well. i'll wait till tomorrow to try one out for myself then take it from there.
bellsjc Offline
#90 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 3:37 PM EST
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I have a few left of the originals. They were quite a deal and I could have kicked myself for only buying 1 box. I just jumped in the redo's and ordered 2 boxes. I will be doing a side by side this weekend if the shippment comes in by then. Man, the originals are good and I hope these compare favorably.
DadZilla3 Offline
#91 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 3:55 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
For those who would like to try the REAL LP Morado, the one that got the 93 rating, not the reblended, resurrected crap sticks CI has been selling under the same name for the past year, now is your chance. From what I can tell, these are the original 2007 release, complete with the rare Cameroon wrapper, cedar sleeve and cedar tray boxes. A real gem of a smoke, and a steal at $39 to $49 per box. Once you taste one of these, you'll understand why I'm so upset with the current production of dog rockets that have been passed off as these premium smokes. Of course I've already grabbed a supply. Get them while you can, boys and girls.

Unfortunate indeed that La Perla chose to continue using the same name for the reblended line, with much cheaper packaging no less. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to retire the original names and come up with new names for the reblended series. Then, if the original tobacco blend became available once more, they could have reintroduced the original line to more than likely, a very appreciative cigar buying public.

But no.
SRH1 Offline
#92 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 4:41 PM EST
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Half way through my 1st. I haven't had the knock-off's or the OR's previpusly, but the 07 I got in the mail today don't suck!
jespear Offline
#93 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 5:09 PM EST
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TIGERCDW wrote:
YES.

I don't see how they have the balls to call the knock-off a 93 rated smoke.

I am now smoking my first OR Morado and let me tell you,the schhit knock-offs that I bought under the assumption that they were these,are no where even close to the OR.

Since Steve swore up and down that the knock-offs were the OR I feel totally screwed by buying them as I did.

TIGER



So who is at fault here?
LPH or C-Bid ?

I'd love to hear what Steve has to say on this matter, as it stands now!
chazbo Offline
#94 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 6:45 PM EST
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So what's the verdic? OR or new blend?
Chazbo
stogiemonger Offline
#95 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 6:52 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Let's see if I can make this crystal clear.

1) Morado comes out in '07 in limited production with a rare Cameroon wrapper.
2) Cigar is considered a premium stick, sells at a premium price, and garners high reviews.
3) Doug Wood, owner of LPH states that label will be retired once wrapper is gone.
4) Production ends and by early 2010 last few boxes disappear from retailer's shelves.
5) Early 2011, cheap sticks, wrapped in the Morado band show up here, that are claimed to be “the same as the original”.
6) I acquire one, smoke it side by side with an original release, and pronounce it a “dog rocket imposter”. Other Morado fans come to the same conclusion.
7) CI Weekend Spotlight claims to have found some of the original release '07 premium sticks, and are clearing them out at about ½ what their dog rocket version is going for.
8) I order some, and then tell you folks about them.
9) You folks order a chit load of them.
10) Now we're all waiting with baited breath to see if what we ordered are really long lost, '07 release, original blend premium Morados, that CI found in an abandoned mine shaft, on the Island of Misfit Toys.

Got you up to speed?

Your writing skills and your ability to explain things so succinctly are impressive sir. My local shrimp wrapper rag would improve greatly with a guy like you on board. You may have missed your calling, bro..
stogiemonger Offline
#96 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 6:59 PM EST
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I got mine today as well. Will be smoking one in a little while. I'll let you know what I think of them. I already like the look of the Cameroon wrapper, and the packaging of this cigar is very nice.
stogiemonger Offline
#97 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 7:03 PM EST
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By the way. My box has a sticker on the bottom which reads 20/09, whatever that means. It suggests something about the box date, no? Interesting. Hmmm?
tmccork Offline
#98 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 7:22 PM EST
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stogiemonger wrote:
I got mine today as well. Will be smoking one in a little while. I'll let you know what I think of them. I already like the look of the Cameroon wrapper, and the packaging of this cigar is very nice.


Which ones did you get?
Pheloniousmunk Offline
#99 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 8:16 PM EST
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The free shipping link still works.....just placed an order, and if you buy two boxes and a little something extra you can get a free Xikar ash can.
Numismaniac Offline
#100 Posted: Wed, Apr 11 2012, 9:09 PM EST
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Has anyone ordered/tried any of the cobre's, or rojo's?
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