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Drafter doesn't understand the difference between "The interwebs say so!" and "Here's an article published in PNAS, a reputable journal with a web presence"

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Makin money is bad

That's actually a good example of how science comes out on top in all these arguments. Notice no one is still holding on to the earth being the center of the universe thing anymore. Even though I personally have never travelled through space to actually see for myself how our planetary system works, I still trust those who do this for a living every day to give me the correct information, and that information can change as new things are learned.

Remember also, before Darwin there was only the church's version of events. (simplified version, of course) It hasn't been as long since that discovery was made, so there are still stubborn people holding on to that creation nonsense, but that too will fade away with time, just like the center of the universe sh*t, and the global warming is a hoax sh*t. But with the global warming thing there could be some real dire consequences that we could have avoided if we just hadn't been so stupid.

Um, no.

Jesus still loves him and fuzz though.

47 - 36 but it's only halftime.

Gooooooo jebus

Jesus Jesus he's our man. If he can't do it Easter ham!

Dude, stfu.

You were calling me a liar earlier.

You have no idea wtf you are talking about.

You know nothing.

It's also a good example of how so many experts can be wrong...in my example, how all the best and brightest believed that the universe was geocentric...in that era in no small part to avoid excommunication or worse. Nowadays we don't excommunicate scholars or burn them at the stake, we simply defund their research grants. Same result. They go along, get along, or go home.

Try an experiment. Apply for two research grants: one to prove the Global Warming/ Climate Change phenomenon is caused by human intervention, and one to disprove it. Guess which study will get the check?

And you wonder why so many of the good BOTL's on this board jump on your sh*t all the time.

Don't forget your marbles on your way home.

I do?

I'm saying that there is now, as there has been throughout history, factors that shape the lens through which expert opinion views the facts and forms their conclusions. In the past in Europe it was church doctrine influencing scientific and philosophical conclusions on issues like the geocentric versus heliocentric view of the solar system. Nowadays in the West we have the religion of political correctness and selective government financing of research influencing expert opinion on issues like global climate change and social engineering.

You bring up an excellent question though...who can you really trust?

Fence post.

Question everything.

Are you sure?

What's it to you?

Ok then. Nevermind.

It's just the latest nazi government plot. Open your eyes, man, they're trying to control Global Warming. Get it Global. That's U.N. Commissars code for telling us what the temperature is gonna be in our outdoors. Let it warm up I say. See what Butchros Butchros Ghali Ghali thinks of that. We'll grow oranges in Alaska.

All this time we've been fooled, tricked into believing the earth is a sphere and our 'planetary system' is heliocentric, only so "they" could steal billions and billions of dollars of our money to fund 'space travel' or 'research'. All this time the flat earthers were right! Evil scientists!

This is hugh and series. Revolution time baby. I fear for our lives for what has been uncovered here.

Attributing religious rules and thinking or rapaciousness to the scientific method is ridiculous. Any supposition made is then looked at by professionals in that field and they try to disprove it, make it false, tell the person that they are full of sh*t. Even Copernicus was proved wrong. If they can't do that then, hmmm, we may have something here. So when 98% of those people say there is something there, it's kind of a big deal.

(Standard disclaimer. Yes, there can be corruption and unethical people in this and every line of work, class of people, religion, etc.)

Why don't you think that the earth is the center of the universe? Earth is flat? No? How do you really know? How do you know that your car won't just explode when you reach 70 mph? How do you know that taking that aspirin will really help you avoid a heart attack?

All that is just 'common sense'? Have any of you personally observed any of that and can prove it? I'm guessing you are trusting the people who do that for a living to have done it right.

But if you were born when one major influence was saying the earth was flat and the center of the universe, god created everything and man has dominion over the earth and can do anything he wants, and another saying we've evolved in a heliocentric planetary system on a planet with a fragile ecosystem that we're f*cking up and it's going to have some pretty bad ramifications, you'd think what was common sense would be quite different.

So what I'm finding funny is Copernicus, a scientist, is brought up as a brilliant example of critical thinking and scientific discoveries are just common sense, yet the same process, logic and reasoning that leads to conclusions one may not agree with for whatever reason can be religious, brainwashing dogma at the same time.

I'm sure the people who first heard what Copernicussy had to say were saying pretty much the same stuff you are. He's so arrogant thinking he knows all the answers, he thinks he knows more than god? He just wants attention. Who is he to question us and try to change our way of life?

Personally, I think the whole higgs particle thing is a scam. I've never seen a higgs. Freakin' grifters.

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We're keeping an eye on you.

I'd like to live in your fairy-tale world, Hockeydad, but the Fair Play For Cuba Committee is retro-fitting my mower to power Fidel's one-man escape sub

Well...there you go again.

Goodbye Cruel World..

I didn't mean to steal your idea.....but, it sounds like it would work...someone ought to tell Trump.


BTW....except for the presence of some dearly departed, this thread could have been pretty recent

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