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Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 7:14 AM EST
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Cuba - September 15, 1960

16 cigar factories, 14 cigarette plants and 20 tobacco warehouses are seized and nationalized, including the H. Upmann factory (home of Montecristo), and Partagas. Sad day.
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#2 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 8:33 AM EST
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Sad day indeedCursing
QMPASH Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 8:44 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Cuba - September 15, 1960

16 cigar factories, 14 cigarette plants and 20 tobacco warehouses are seized and nationalized, including the H. Upmann factory (home of Montecristo), and Partagas. Sad day.



Communist philosophy--Whatever you have is mine and whatever I have is mine. horse
cacman Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 8:48 AM EST
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Sadder that 54yrs later (over half a century) they are still illegal in the US!

But what the hell, Pittsburghers are still paying an extra tax over 100yrs later for the a flood that didn't even happen in Allegheny County.
gryphonms Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:50 AM EST
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I think the embargo on Cuban should end. It only hurts the Cuban people, not the Cuban government. Also we deal with other governments that pose far more risk potential to the United States, such as China.
Abrignac Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 1:06 PM EST
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I don't know how true it is, but I did read it on the internet some time back.

As the story goes most of the cigar makers/distributors of cigars which are marketed under brands which are also brands that originated in Cuba are against relaxing US/Cuba relations. Since the Cuban government seized the brands as part of the revolution, they own them. According to the article it will create a trademark problem for the non-cuban "copycat" brands if Cuba were to market their cigars to US buyers. The article also states that these same makers of the non-cuban cigars contribute to candidates which favor a continued boycott of Cuba.
tonygraz Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 1:14 PM EST
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There will be a lot of problems that will have to be worked out when and if the embargo on Cuba is lifted. I'm not sure if it will happen in my lifetime tho.
SRH1 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 3:32 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Sadder that 54yrs later (over half a century) they are still illegal in the US!

But what the hell, Pittsburghers are still paying an extra tax over 100yrs later for the a flood that didn't even happen in Allegheny County.


You have Johnstown to thank for that. BTW.....Johnstown doesn't see one red cent of those tax dollars.........

Where does it go????
Philly Jack Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 5:59 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Sadder that 54yrs later (over half a century) they are still illegal in the US!

But what the hell, Pittsburghers are still paying an extra tax over 100yrs later for the a flood that didn't even happen in Allegheny County.

We're all paying the Johnstown flood tax PA gas taxes suck NJ it's cheaper and full service
pfk985 Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 9:33 PM EST
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I just don't understand why the embargo continues to exist. Do you think it will be lifted once Castro is dead?
zody Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 9:42 PM EST
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Surprisingly enough some of the strongest supporters of the embargo remaining in place are the Cuban population in Miami, I was speaking to a Cuban exile about a year ago and he said the thousands of Cubans in Miami have no desire to see it lifted unless the regime is removed entirely. Even if the embargo is lifted those people still in Cuba will be no better off.
Tyranny is tyranny and for Cuba to prosper it has to go, all or nothing.
nolen Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Sep 15 2014, 10:06 PM EST
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I agree with those who said that it's the Cuban Ex-Patriots in Florida that are the most opposed to ending the embargo. Politicians are very sensitive to their wishes because they are a very strong voting block that could make or break a candidate. And as the old political adage says, "As Florida goes so does an election." A presidential candidate simply cannot win the Whitehouse without Florida. Therefore, disturbing the Cuban Americans just doesn't give enough juice for the squeeze.
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