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Ramon Bueso Genesis Habano
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robertsccr5 Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 10:46 PM EST
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Anyone else seen this?? I'm pretty excited for it. I absolutely love the Project, enjoy the Odyssey, and now this Habano sounds pretty awesome.

"The famous Honduran cigar maker's most potent creation to date.

After two years of meticulous blending, the Ramon Bueso saga continues with the release of Genesis Habano. Stepping into the spotlight after the release of Genesis The Project, this legendary Honduran cigar maker unveils his most potent creation to date. Blended by tobacco expert, Ramon Bueso, Genesis Habano is a complete 180 from his last release, unleashing a powerful ligero blend finished with a hearty Habano wrapper.

Teeming with rich notes of spice, oak, and black pepper, Ramon Bueso Genesis Habano is blended with copious amounts of powerful, high-priming Nicaraguan and Honduran long leaves and covered with a meaty, Ecuador Habano wrapper. This hard-hitting, full-bodied cigar is sure to be another smash-hit in the likes for Genesis The Project. Save a spot for this one in your regular rotation. You won't be sorry."

Anyone planning on paying retail for a box or are you waiting for it to hit CBID?
fenderbendertex Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 11:43 PM EST
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Sounds awesome. Love Bueso's smokes. Will have to wait until it gets here though...
bgz Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 11 2015, 11:59 PM EST
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I'll probably wait. I do like the project though.
Palama Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 12 2015, 12:28 AM EST
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Since the Project smokes better with a few months rest, I'd probably do the same for the Habano...so I don't see the need to rush out to get them.
KingoftheCove Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 12 2015, 4:04 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
Since the Project smokes better with a few months rest, I'd probably do the same for the Habano...so I don't see the need to rush out to get them.

+1......the Project is even better once they have a year plus on them

once the rush dies down, I'll grab a box of the Habanos for $40ish, and bury them for a while

the Odyssey doesn't do much for me..............I have some that have been sitting a while......maybe I'll revisit this morning
Ram27 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 12 2015, 5:44 AM EST
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Think
danmdevries Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 12 2015, 7:57 AM EST
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I'd like to add a box to my humidor once here for about $40. The others needed a good bit of time before they got good. I liked the Odysseys, love aged Genesis.

Description on these though might not be what I prefer, but hopefully they mellow out with time.
robertsccr5 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 12 2015, 3:24 PM EST
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I hope it isn't too peppery and strong. I was hoping next in line would be a sumatra or cameroon but since the Odyssey was so mild it seems he wanted to shift back. I also think it's interesting that rather than create a new name, Bueso is playing off the Genesis name. Makes sense given the success of the Project.
robertsccr5 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2015, 12:01 AM EST
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Bottom line up front: Delicious

Nice wrapper, dark reddish brown
Pepper and spice bomb
Very slow burn; burns great for ROTT and Ligero
pepper backs way off after first inch.
Baking spice, nutmeg, slight sweetness, coffee
Very savory compared to the Project
Reminiscent of diff between No9 and T52
I may like these better than the Project
Will age well.

The end.
tonygraz Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2015, 9:26 AM EST
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I have seen several lots already on CBID.
KingoftheCove Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2015, 10:37 AM EST
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robertsccr5 wrote:
Bottom line up front: Delicious

Nice wrapper, dark reddish brown
Pepper and spice bomb
Very slow burn; burns great for ROTT and Ligero
pepper backs way off after first inch.
Baking spice, nutmeg, slight sweetness, coffee
Very savory compared to the Project
Reminiscent of diff between No9 and T52
I may like these better than the Project
Will age well.

The end.

thanks a lot!!!! whip

my buying hiatus was going well..............and now you fugged it all up.........
robertsccr5 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Apr 3 2015, 11:29 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
thanks a lot!!!! whip

my buying hiatus was going well..............and now you fugged it all up.........


PM me your address. I'll send you a fiver to keep your hiatus intact.
solly Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 1:42 PM EST
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On sale at a "sister" site for way cheaper than I bought em here. Good luck. These things would gag a maggot.
robertsccr5 Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 4:07 PM EST
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You must have the palate of a horse fly eating maggoty filled crap.

Mazos of 10 for 29.99, and that is "way cheaper"?? Not sure what you paid but I picked up two boxes and one was only $46. Sounds like you could use some dpnewell education...RIP
kombat96 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 4:18 PM EST
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Robert there's no helping these noops
reckless Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 4:19 PM EST
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kombat96 wrote:
Robert there's no helping these noops

You dont even smoke anymore.... GO AWAY DINK!horse
solly Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 5:27 PM EST
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I stand corrected robert. i paid 43 for a box of toros here. I didnt realize the price was for a mazo of 10. Doesnt change the way they taste to me though.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 5:30 PM EST
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robertsccr5 wrote:
You must have the palate of a horse fly eating maggoty filled crap.

Mazos of 10 for 29.99, and that is "way cheaper"?? Not sure what you paid but I picked up two boxes and one was only $46. Sounds like you could use some dpnewell education...RIP


RIP dave...
bassman45 Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 5:59 PM EST
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reckless wrote:
You dont even smoke anymore.... GO AWAY DINK!horse

Wombat quit smoking?
robertsccr5 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Apr 13 2015, 7:18 PM EST
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solly wrote:
I stand corrected robert. i paid 43 for a box of toros here. I didnt realize the price was for a mazo of 10. Doesnt change the way they taste to me though.


Fair enough.
GSS1956 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Apr 15 2015, 6:27 AM EST
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Great out da box.
shaun341 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Apr 15 2015, 6:51 AM EST
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The Wombat raok me a 5er of these to try and I plan on smoking 1 this weekend. Nice looking cigar, wrapper is a deeper color then I expected and looks real oily.
[email protected] Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 7:23 PM EST
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Smoking my first one as I type this, while I don't have the skills to pick up nutmeg, cocoa, Carmel, and whatever else those reviews say, I will say it is a well constructed,even burning, spicy but smooth stick. I liked the project,and this one has a bit more "strength". As Kwaj would say" lots of smoke, good draw!

Kip
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#24 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 7:24 PM EST
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BTW, got a box of robbies for 43 I believe
Mr. Jones Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Apr 18 2015, 8:44 PM EST
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I love the ones that come w/ the wooden ashtray
Sampler...cant be beat...toros....the Gensis project
I think....
The best new cigar in 3 years ( and maybe 5 yrs)
They are awesome , meticulously wrapped, burn solid and straight...and taste friggin amazing...
I give them a solid 8.75....never had a bad one in 4 samplers? Yet....
moonman Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, May 4 2015, 5:14 PM EST
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I got a fiver on the way. Sounds like I should have grabbed a box.
moonman Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, May 4 2015, 5:14 PM EST
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I got a fiver on the way. Sounds like I should have grabbed a box.
moonman Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, May 4 2015, 5:16 PM EST
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Sorry for studdering.
robertsccr5 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, May 4 2015, 6:55 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
The Wombat raok me a 5er of these to try and I plan on smoking 1 this weekend. Nice looking cigar, wrapper is a deeper color then I expected and looks real oily.

Did you try yet?
robertsccr5 Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, May 4 2015, 6:56 PM EST
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moonman wrote:
I got a fiver on the way. Sounds like I should have grabbed a box.

It's not too late. You'll have 5 to smoke and an unopened box to age.
99cobra2881 Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, May 9 2015, 1:32 PM EST
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Got myself a box of habano robustos last night. Now to get a fiver so I can toss this box in the cooler with my other two boxes of genesis robustos.
kombat96 Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, May 9 2015, 1:51 PM EST
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99cobra2881 wrote:
Got myself a box of habano robustos last night. Now to get a fiver so I can toss this box in the cooler with my other two boxes of genesis robustos.


Hoarder
bgz Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, May 9 2015, 4:28 PM EST
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These cigars are horrible... For all my fellow noobs, stay the hell away!

Oh wait, I won my auctions, carry on.
KingoftheCove Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, May 16 2015, 1:29 AM EST
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Just snagged a box of Robs here for $37............not too bad.................DP would have got em for $34 though.......

RIP DP...........
99cobra2881 Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, May 16 2015, 2:22 AM EST
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kombat96 wrote:
Hoarder


I never got a fiver so I'll just have to wait to burn one of these. So I'm not a hoarder. Haha

$37 is an awesome price. I've gotten my all boxes at $43 which is still a good deal imo.
robertsccr5 Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, May 16 2015, 5:38 AM EST
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I had zero patience and wanted to try ASAP so I got one of the first boxes for $52 I believe. Second box was $46.

I can't believe these can go for sub $40 prices. So many cigars are triple the price but don't come close to quality or flavor as Bueso. I wonder how he got stuck in an exclusive contract.
KingoftheCove Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, May 16 2015, 8:17 AM EST
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robertsccr5 wrote:


I can see how these can go for sub $40 prices. They don't come close to the quality or flavor of other yard gars in this price range. Bueso was lucky to get that exclusive contract.


I had to fix that ................
sheesh..........................keep it down!!!!
robertsccr5 Offline
#38 Posted: Sat, May 16 2015, 9:38 AM EST
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Lol you're right. What was I thinking??
midmofan Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2015, 9:56 AM EST
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Spent my free coupon on the RB sampler pack which was on sale last week. So far had the Odyssey and the Habano.

I thought the Odyssey was a very good Connecticut Stick. I don't care for those usually but this one was enjoyable. Coffee with a LOT of cream in it. Pleasant aftertaste. Given my normal preferences, probably would not buy again primarily for me but could see having some in the humi for handouts and perhaps grabbing one for the occasional and rare morning smoke.

I thought the Habano was very good. A bit of salt, some pepper under that. "Meaty and chewy" were my notes - yup, I take notes...

Became more toasty about halfway in and strength picked up in last 1/3. Defiantly would buy this one again.

Next up Genesis The Project
namadio Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2015, 10:19 AM EST
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Still haven't smoked one of mine been sitting on them since whenever they came out... maybe I need to give one a shot. This thread seems positive but I saw mixed reviews somewhere
danmdevries Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2015, 10:28 AM EST
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Mine tasted like lawn clippings
tonygraz Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2015, 10:39 AM EST
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The Odyssey didn't do much for me and I've given up on buying the habano (along with everything else unitil fall). Got some projects sitting, but not too excited about firing one up.
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#43 Posted: Thu, Jul 9 2015, 12:54 PM EST
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moonman wrote:
Sorry for studdering.

shouda grabbed a box!
midmofan Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, Jul 27 2015, 9:53 AM EST
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Finally fired up the "Projects" and very disappointing and harsh. Tried to let it sit, not get it too hot, etc but both were harsh and ashy no matter what I did. Really, tasted like an ashtray. :(

So, for me, the Habano is a re-buy - when/if can get them at a reasonable price!

Odyssey - Connecticut lovers should really like this one. I will probably not get get unless part of a sampler or package deal just because its not my cup'o'tea, but wouldn't be bad to have in the box for the rare morning smoke or for guests

The Project - yuck! Perhaps these get better with age - noticed someone saying let them sit for a year (!) but that is not something I am going to do when getting a sampler pack or for smokes of this level.
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#45 Posted: Mon, Jul 27 2015, 12:06 PM EST
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i have a couple boxes of the projects that have been sitting for a little over a year and they are much much better. The odyssey i tried a 5er and liked at the time so i bought a box and let that sit as well for the same time but to me they are not as good after sitting for that long.

midmofan send me your addy and ill shoot you over a 5er thats been sitting.

been very curious about the habano myself so i guess it's time to find some.
KingoftheCove Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Jul 27 2015, 12:06 PM EST
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midmofan wrote:
Finally fired up the "Projects" and very disappointing and harsh. Tried to let it sit, not get it too hot, etc but both were harsh and ashy no matter what I did. Really, tasted like an ashtray. :(

So, for me, the Habano is a re-buy - when/if can get them at a reasonable price!

Odyssey - Connecticut lovers should really like this one. I will probably not get get unless part of a sampler or package deal just because its not my cup'o'tea, but wouldn't be bad to have in the box for the rare morning smoke or for guests

The Project - yuck! Perhaps these get better with age - noticed someone saying let them sit for a year (!) but that is not something I am going to do when getting a sampler pack or for smokes of this level.

Good to hear that about the Habano......still letting my box of Robs sit for a while before I try one.
Odyssey does nothing for me........but that's how it is for most Connies.
The Genesis? Your experience is much different than mine. I'm very glad I purchased these heavily a few years back. They (Robs and Toros, and one box or Muy Buesos) are smoking fantastically, and are EASILY the best $2 cigars I've ever scored.
But, maybe things have changed?
The last ones I purchased was in Sept, 2014.......but I won't get to smoking those until next year sometime. I'll try to remember to report on those.
namadio Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Jul 27 2015, 1:44 PM EST
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Habano didn't do much for me. It wasn't bad I just don't think I'd buy again unless they seriously improve with age. TBD. I like the others ROTT. Have smoked a gifted aged one of each adn they were def good. Looking forward to revisiting my boxes with some age on em.
danmdevries Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 12:38 AM EST
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Had a Habano today. Grassy flavor was gone.

Pretty close to the ad copy description. Very ligero forward with the pepper and heat.

That's my least favorite cigar flavor profile.

I do not like these.
namadio Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 6:11 AM EST
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Odyssey onsale at mothership 39.99 for robustos. I need find a free ship link
robertsccr5 Offline
#50 Posted: Wed, Jul 29 2015, 8:13 AM EST
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Just goes to show how subjective taste really is.
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