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shaun341 Offline
#51 Posted:
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You were a little off but I was more curious to see what the result would be on a blind review with this one. Pretty much what I expected. When I smoked this one I thought to myself it was an ok smoke but nothing great and a bit disappointed due to price point. It was the Tatuaje Jekyll and unfortunately that was the elitist cigar. I was hoping that maybe I had just thought it was an underwhelming cigar but I guess not. Thanks for the review Jespear, we must have similar taste because I agree with you on the first 2.
jespear Offline
#52 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:
You were a little off but I was more curious to see what the result would be on a blind review with this one. Pretty much what I expected. When I smoked this one I thought to myself it was an ok smoke but nothing great and a bit disappointed due to price point. It was the Tatuaje Jekyll and unfortunately that was the elitist cigar. I was hoping that maybe I had just thought it was an underwhelming cigar but I guess not. Thanks for the review Jespear, we must have similar taste because I agree with you on the first 2.


d'oh!

So now all I have left is the "dog rocket" ?
This should be interesting . . . going into it KNOWING that.

I'll try to be as unbiased as possible.
mountainman Offline
#53 Posted:
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That's a bit surprising to me, I had a Jekyll about six months ago and it was a pretty flavorful cigar. maybe I just lucked out.
chazbo Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2007
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Just caught a nice buzz with bgz 's #1 mystery cigar
Size 5x50
Wrapper med brown, toothy, few minor veins with triple cap
v-cut
Paired with DogFish Head Pilsner beer
The cigar starts off very smooth and creamy. Perfect burn and draw throughout. Flavors I picked up in the first half include carmel with notes of graham cracker sweetness. First half was medium strength. Around the half way mark I got hit with spice on the tip of my tongue. The strength has built to full and the nicotine is given me a high. Glad I ate dinner before smoking this guy. Put it down with about an inch remaining. Wow
Very good cigar. I never had any impromptu cigars but my guess is a pepper creme soda.
Thanks bgzApplause
Chazbo
bgz Offline
#55 Posted:
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Funny story, I had just sent to the OPTH not too long ago, then with the big Stinger bomb, I was fresh out of dog rockets, and was stuck with my stash having only cigars I like and a handful of cigars given to me that I haven't tried yet.

So what you smoked was one of my "yard gars".

It was an Oliva Saison Robusto, IMO they are really, really good cigars and they've been resting in my humidor for a good 8 months.

They do retail for under $5, so I figured that was the closest thing to a yard gar I had in my humidor.

They definitely have that Nicaraguan spice and most Saisons that I have had are well constructed with a nice clean burn... as with most Oliva cigars that I've smoked.

I'm glad you enjoyed it :D

-Ben
mountainman Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2012
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DCLOVER your package landed yesterday, thank you very much for that great looking spread!

hitting me with a six pack, three mystery cigars and three labeled: a my father lancero, god of fire series b looks like a robusto gordo and a LFD tubo Maduro 6 (NH).

im gonna be lighting up number three tonight. my pre light guess is a Hemmingway signature just going off the shape of the cigar. but am going to keep an open mind and am looking forward to it!

thank you again for the great selection brother!
mountainman Offline
#57 Posted:
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Cigar number three the size is approximately 6x 48-50 Figadoro with a nice dark brown wrapper. construction looks pretty solid and smooth .

pre light, I couldn't pick up on anything that really stood out.

on shift so I get to pair this guy with some nice water.

upon lighting, i find the cigar is a nicely balanced and mellow, mild to medium bodied, and starts with a slight peppery under tone and a sweetness that pops up from time to time. the main stay of the flavor is cedar with a bit of leather mixed in. the draw is smooth with the perfect resistance for me and just the right amount of smoke. the burn is even with a white ash that stays strong till about the 2/3rds mark.

the cigars stays consistent until the 2/3rds mark at which point the cigar takes a nose dive on me. the burn starts to become uneven, looked like some minor tunneling on one side with the other just not burning. I evened it out with my lighter and got everything back on track when the cigar bitters out. i gave it some time hoping it would recover, but sadly did not.

overall a great cigar with great flavor that just had a bad night.

as for a guess as what it was, still going with a Hemingway, I usually have these kind of issues with the Hemingway sticks i have had in the past and similar flavors to it. so how far off am i DClover?

mountainman Offline
#58 Posted:
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frozenphoenix im slacking on my notification for you sir, your box was sent Friday and should be arriving today.
chazbo Offline
#59 Posted:
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Bait and switchram27bat
bgz you sure you didn't get the numbers mixed upThink
Thanks that's what makes these blind smokes so much funHerfing
DCLover Offline
#60 Posted:
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You nailed it Ryan, Hemingway maduro. Good job. Sucks you got a dud. Thing's been in the humidor over a year.
bgz Offline
#61 Posted:
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chazbo wrote:
Bait and switchram27bat
bgz you sure you didn't get the numbers mixed upThink
Thanks that's what makes these blind smokes so much funHerfing


Oh, my bad, that was the elitist cigar...

Just kidding Sarcasm
mountainman Offline
#62 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
You nailed it Ryan, Hemingway maduro. Good job. Sucks you got a dud. Thing's been in the humidor over a year.

I don't know what it is about the Hemingway, they do this to me a lot. Still love them thought! Thank you again!
DCLover Offline
#63 Posted:
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Guess that was the yard gar.
mountainman Offline
#64 Posted:
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by no means, its still a great cigar. i might be able to light up the next one tonight or tomorrow, excited to see whats next!
danmdevries Offline
#65 Posted:
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Jespear no 1. Typing review while in the garage smoking.

Looks to be a Connecticut wrapper, toro size, uniform roll and almost flawless wrapper. Cut the head and a cold draw that was just plain tobacco flavor. Nothing special about cold aroma either.

First light, again a straight tobacco flavor, maybe a little cedar on the finish. But first few puffs are a dry woody tobacco leaf flavor.

As it burns down maybe a faint sweetness like raisins on the tail end, a little more creamy nutty connie flavor coming through. Its getting better. Construction is pretty good on this one, draw is perfect and only about 1/8" variation on the burn line. Overall still predominantly tobacco leaf and cedar.

Halfway now, about 30 minutes in. No change. Maybe a little more cedar spice like flavor, no longer picking up on the Connie cream. Pretty straightforward and solid flavor. I'm suspecting yard gar, kinda hard to say now prior to trying the others though to really pick which tier it goes to.

Wrapping up its getting a bit plugged and hot at 1.5" so I'm gonna call it here. Still nearly perfect burn, no touchups, tight ash, progressively tighter draw throughout, opened with a little finger rolling though. Gonna call it the yard gar. Solid smoke, but uninspiring flavor.

Pretty sure it's not something I've had before, or at least something I've not had more than once before. The one dimensional flavor makes me think of the Oliva O, but the wrapper looks darker. Got 70 minutes out of this cigar.

So jespear, what was it?
jespear Offline
#66 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Jespear no 1. Typing review while in the garage smoking.

Looks to be a Connecticut wrapper, toro size, uniform roll and almost flawless wrapper. Cut the head and a cold draw that was just plain tobacco flavor. Nothing special about cold aroma either.

First light, again a straight tobacco flavor, maybe a little cedar on the finish. But first few puffs are a dry woody tobacco leaf flavor.

As it burns down maybe a faint sweetness like raisins on the tail end, a little more creamy nutty connie flavor coming through. Its getting better. Construction is pretty good on this one, draw is perfect and only about 1/8" variation on the burn line. Overall still predominantly tobacco leaf and cedar.

Halfway now, about 30 minutes in. No change. Maybe a little more cedar spice like flavor, no longer picking up on the Connie cream. Pretty straightforward and solid flavor. I'm suspecting yard gar, kinda hard to say now prior to trying the others though to really pick which tier it goes to.

Wrapping up its getting a bit plugged and hot at 1.5" so I'm gonna call it here. Still nearly perfect burn, no touchups, tight ash, progressively tighter draw throughout, opened with a little finger rolling though. Gonna call it the yard gar. Solid smoke, but uninspiring flavor.

Pretty sure it's not something I've had before, or at least something I've not had more than once before. The one dimensional flavor makes me think of the Oliva O, but the wrapper looks darker. Got 70 minutes out of this cigar.

So jespear, what was it?

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Here's what SMOKE magazine says:
"Four out of five panelists agree: this is a cigar for everyone. Its mildness and subtle tones of spice and wood, bequeathed to the palate by the Connecticut broadleaf wrapper, make the Don Rafael an excellent all-day smoke for the novice and an excellent morning smoke.

Here's CI's take on it:
Don Rafael is the ultimate everyday smoke. Handmade in the Dominican Republic, this solidly-crafted cigar features a smooth Connecticut wrapper and aged Cuban-seed long-fillers from the Dominican Republic. The bouquet is mild to medium at its core but long on flavor, coating the palate with toasty tobacco nuances, sweet cedar, and a subtle creaminess that lingers after each puff.

Yard Gar it was. Good call.
danmdevries Offline
#67 Posted:
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Well thank you sir. it was a solid yard gar.

The ad copy pretty much is spot on.

After relaunching the cacman pass, then the stinger bomb, I'm out of yard gars. Might need to consider these. Nothing special, but solid smokes.
bgz Offline
#68 Posted:
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Got my fiver from frozenphoenix.

AF Queen Bee
Tatuaje HCS (NH)

and 3 unbanded beasties.

Looks like a corona and a couple churchills, none of which are recognizable to me just on how they look. All of them have lighter brown wrappers (not Connecticut).

I look forward to trying one this weekend.

Thanks Joe!
DCLover Offline
#69 Posted:
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I'm going with danm's #2 today. It's 4 3/4 x 48-50 by my measurements. Looks to have a tan shade grown wrapper with a few veins & very slight box press. It's a good looking cigar, solid from head to foot. Pre-light draw provides hint of dry grass. It's a bit firm, but once lit, it opens up nicely. Not bad right off the bat, getting toast, cedar, with a nutty note I'll call cashew on the finish. Burn gets uneven early on, give it a touch-up just shy of halfway. Flavors staying pretty consistent, classically mild/medium Connecticut seed to me. If anything, picking up the intensity a little as I pass halfway. Burn stays a little uneven, until it self-corrects near the end, but it's not been a problem.

Overall, a good cigar if you're a beginner or a fan of this type. Unfortunately, I am neither. Thanks Dan.
danmdevries Offline
#70 Posted:
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Jespear no 3. The oval maduro Churchill that isn't an Oval Maduro.

Vcut the head, cold draw is nice n open.

First light, a little pepper on retrohale, otherwise noting an earthy flavor. This is my first deck smoke of the year, and it rained today so that may be playing into it.

An inch in and its burning unevenly. Could be my fault, could be the breeze, not laying blame on the cigar. Picking up a lot more woody qualities. Not necessarily a cedar spice, something a little closer to splitting oak logs. Draw is perfect, just enough resistance to keep it slow, but provide ample volumes of smoke. Tail end of the finish reminds me of a mild pipe tobacco i had a while back. Its good. Lingers.

Almost halfway at 45 minutes and there's not much change in the way of flavors noted, but definitely richer than the start. Strength is creeping up on me. Got half a pizza n a couple beers in my belly and im still feeling it. Leather, wood n spice are the predominant flavors. The finish lasts for days.

I almost never smoke anything over 5". This is good, but starting to be a chore, like an eating contest with good food. Feel like I cant really give much more evaluation at this point. Flavors are solid, unchanged. Construction is perfect. Save for the initial burn unevenness that self corrected, has been even the rest of the way down. Got at least 3" left but the strength is getting to me and I have some reports I need to type up yet tonight. Ill give it until the chickens go in to roost and I close the coop, but calling the review here.

Guessing midrange cigar, but thats all I've got. Nothing I've had before. Probably not something I'll buy, not quite my preferred profile but it was good. Churchills are just too damn long. Hour n a half when I closed the coop. Now I need to lie down.
danmdevries Offline
#71 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
I'm going with danm's #2 today. It's 4 3/4 x 48-50 by my measurements. Looks to have a tan shade grown wrapper with a few veins & very slight box press. It's a good looking cigar, solid from head to foot. Pre-light draw provides hint of dry grass. It's a bit firm, but once lit, it opens up nicely. Not bad right off the bat, getting toast, cedar, with a nutty note I'll call cashew on the finish. Burn gets uneven early on, give it a touch-up just shy of halfway. Flavors staying pretty consistent, classically mild/medium Connecticut seed to me. If anything, picking up the intensity a little as I pass halfway. Burn stays a little uneven, until it self-corrects near the end, but it's not been a problem.

Overall, a good cigar if you're a beginner or a fan of this type. Unfortunately, I am neither. Thanks Dan.


Bummer. Bolivar CC. Believe it was a 2009. Love them, creamy nutty flavors are my favorites.
DCLover Offline
#72 Posted:
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Wow. Did not get any hint of Cuba in that one. But with a few exceptions, I am not a huge fan of Cuban tobacco.
mountainman Offline
#73 Posted:
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so I finally got to break out the next cigar, which is going to be cigar number 2.

the cigar is a torpedo that is a silky smooth medium brown, nice and tightly rolled with little to no veins showing. torpedo's are my favorite roll and am excited to dive into this one, it looks super nice and a very nice treat!

pre light, the cigar gives off the pleasant aroma of spices, cedar and tobacco leaf.

I cut a little off the head with my v cutter and the cold draw was a nice resistance which taste of tea with hints pepper.

I light her up and the cedar, tea and spice come out with some white pepper under tone.

through the first third the initial flavors hold with a sweetness and black cherry making a brief appearance. the ash is a nice white and pretty solid.

as I start the second third, the tea flavor is starting to fade away and a toasted marshmallow and creaminess is starting to replace it. I had to recut the cap with my guillotine cutter due to the v cutter just not getting deep enough and the cigar slowly going out and the draw getting tighter. this changed the feel of the cigar, the draw became almost to loose and the subtle flavors becoming lost. the smoke is coming in thicker and creamy. it is still one heck of a cigar and I am wishing I had a good bourbon to pair with it, would be a perfect addition to this cigar.

as I start the last third, the toastiness is more pronounced with the cedar still hanging in. the burn has been spot on from start to finish, besides my cut issue. the smell of the smoke reminds me of baked bread, not like a monte no2, but similar. I am really enjoying this cigar, but still cant place it though it seems familiar. I smoke it to the nub and the flavors don't change through the last third.

you got me stumped on this one DClover. it reminds me of the only bolivar CC I have smoked but I don't think that's it. I am interested to find out what this one was. thank you for the great cigar!
DCLover Offline
#74 Posted:
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Tatuaje Verocu Tubo. Needless to say, it had a few years under it's belt. I think I split a box with someone on here when these came out. That was my last one.
mountainman Offline
#75 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Tatuaje Verocu Tubo. Needless to say, it had a few years under it's belt. I think I split a box with someone on here when these came out. That was my last one.


Wow thank you for giving up your last one! I never got to try this guy before and am really grateful for the opportunity.

Read two reviews on her and it looks like the flavors held true and the only flavor I couldn't place was cinnamon.

I am really looking forward to the last cigar up and might just have to try her tonight. Thank you again brother, this has been a really great line up!
jespear Offline
#76 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Jespear no 3. The oval maduro Churchill that isn't an Oval Maduro.

Vcut the head, cold draw is nice n open.

First light, a little pepper on retrohale, otherwise noting an earthy flavor. This is my first deck smoke of the year, and it rained today so that may be playing into it.

An inch in and its burning unevenly. Could be my fault, could be the breeze, not laying blame on the cigar. Picking up a lot more woody qualities. Not necessarily a cedar spice, something a little closer to splitting oak logs. Draw is perfect, just enough resistance to keep it slow, but provide ample volumes of smoke. Tail end of the finish reminds me of a mild pipe tobacco i had a while back. Its good. Lingers.

Almost halfway at 45 minutes and there's not much change in the way of flavors noted, but definitely richer than the start. Strength is creeping up on me. Got half a pizza n a couple beers in my belly and im still feeling it. Leather, wood n spice are the predominant flavors. The finish lasts for days.

I almost never smoke anything over 5". This is good, but starting to be a chore, like an eating contest with good food. Feel like I cant really give much more evaluation at this point. Flavors are solid, unchanged. Construction is perfect. Save for the initial burn unevenness that self corrected, has been even the rest of the way down. Got at least 3" left but the strength is getting to me and I have some reports I need to type up yet tonight. Ill give it until the chickens go in to roost and I close the coop, but calling the review here.

Guessing midrange cigar, but thats all I've got. Nothing I've had before. Probably not something I'll buy, not quite my preferred profile but it was good. Churchills are just too damn long. Hour n a half when I closed the coop. Now I need to lie down.



Dan,
That would have been my Upper End entry, the Tatuaje Nicaragua Cojonu 2012 Habano.
I love this cigar, and have willingly paid retail for it, (on occasion), at the local.
So all you have left now is the mid range stick. (FTR . . . I am crazy about this cigar.)

frozenphoenix1 Offline
#77 Posted:
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I chose cigar #2 from mountainman. Its a 6x50 toro with a medium brown wrapper that appears seamless with a few raised veins. Looks to have one darker swirl of tobacco on the foot and what looks like a stem in the center. Straight cut and pre light draw has a bit of pepper on the lips and some cedar notes on the slightly tight draw. Toasted and lit.

First few draws have some creamy pepper and what i would say is a raisin sweetness lingering in the retrohale. Pepper has backed off and mellowed out to a medium body smoke with more of a woodsy taste with a bit of sweetness still on the retrohale.

At the halfway point, the sweetness picked up quite a bit with more of a cocoa flavor. The burn has been wavy at times but no touch ups have been required. About 2/3 mark the sweetness is dimishing and more pepper is coming through with more of the woodsy tones again.

An hour and a half with about 3/4 inch left I called it good. This one could be a good everyday smoke for the right price. I'm guessing this is the mid range cigar, but good none the less. Somethings about this remind me of a pepin line.

Thanks again mountainman.
danmdevries Offline
#78 Posted:
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jespear wrote:
Dan,
That would have been my Upper End entry, the Tatuaje Nicaragua Cojonu 2012 Habano.
I love this cigar, and have willingly paid retail for it, (on occasion), at the local.
So all you have left now is the mid range stick. (FTR . . . I am crazy about this cigar.)



I've had one of those before and enjoyed it, but recall it differently than this one.

It was good, thank you

Will be doing the last one in the morning after work.
danmdevries Offline
#79 Posted:
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Jespear no 2 this morning.

Robusto size and an attractive medium dark wrapper, looks like a well done triple cap, oily uneven color and large veins. Aroma and cold draw of dry tobacco.

First light I'm slapped with a huge black pepper blast that makes my eyes water and nose run... this might be hard to get through. I hate Nicaraguan ligero bombs. Trying to keep an open mind.

About a half inch in, the intensity did back off a frog hair but still big time pepper bite, I can't retrohale. Getting a little spice n cedar on the back of my tongue, lips tingling a little. We'll keep on and see where it goes.

It's reminding me of what I think of Tats. Whether or not it is, this profile is the reason I don't buy Tatuaje except to share/trade/bomb to those that like it. with a lot of age, it may mellow out and be a cigar I'd like but not today. Not very far and I'm getting sour flavor with the intense pepper, really not feeling this one.

Feel bad doing this but I'm calling it at about 1.5" in. Quite unpleasant. I'd call this the yard gar at best, though process of elimination puts this in the middle.

So, what was it?
mountainman Offline
#80 Posted:
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frozenphoenix1 wrote:
I chose cigar #2 from mountainman. Its a 6x50 toro with a medium brown wrapper that appears seamless with a few raised veins. Looks to have one darker swirl of tobacco on the foot and what looks like a stem in the center. Straight cut and pre light draw has a bit of pepper on the lips and some cedar notes on the slightly tight draw. Toasted and lit.

First few draws have some creamy pepper and what i would say is a raisin sweetness lingering in the retrohale. Pepper has backed off and mellowed out to a medium body smoke with more of a woodsy taste with a bit of sweetness still on the retrohale.

At the halfway point, the sweetness picked up quite a bit with more of a cocoa flavor. The burn has been wavy at times but no touch ups have been required. About 2/3 mark the sweetness is dimishing and more pepper is coming through with more of the woodsy tones again.

An hour and a half with about 3/4 inch left I called it good. This one could be a good everyday smoke for the right price. I'm guessing this is the mid range cigar, but good none the less. Somethings about this remind me of a pepin line.

Thanks again mountainman.


Well you started off on the right foot! You chose the CLE signature series PLdM and the top shelf for this review
illinichaser Offline
#81 Posted:
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Smoked cigar #2 from Chazbo tonight. It was a 5" 54rg with a dark brown slightly toothy wrapper. It had a very heavy feel to it. Preflight draw was light tobacco with a bit of cedar. The burn was perfectly smooth, with initial ash holding for close to 2". Light leather taste through the first half wit hints of cedar and a littletangyness to it. Through the 2nd. Half the tang faded to a mellow smoke. Superb burn and I enjoyed down to the nub. because of the toothy wrapper I'm guessing mid range, but would absolutely smoke another. My first thoughts on it were visage so I'm gonna stick with thar, but wouldn't be surprised to find out it was an Ashton VSG.


So what did I smoke?
jespear Offline
#82 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Jespear no 2 this morning.

Robusto size and an attractive medium dark wrapper, looks like a well done triple cap, oily uneven color and large veins. Aroma and cold draw of dry tobacco.

First light I'm slapped with a huge black pepper blast that makes my eyes water and nose run... this might be hard to get through. I hate Nicaraguan ligero bombs. Trying to keep an open mind.

About a half inch in, the intensity did back off a frog hair but still big time pepper bite, I can't retrohale. Getting a little spice n cedar on the back of my tongue, lips tingling a little. We'll keep on and see where it goes.

It's reminding me of what I think of Tats. Whether or not it is, this profile is the reason I don't buy Tatuaje except to share/trade/bomb to those that like it. with a lot of age, it may mellow out and be a cigar I'd like but not today. Not very far and I'm getting sour flavor with the intense pepper, really not feeling this one.

Feel bad doing this but I'm calling it at about 1.5" in. Quite unpleasant. I'd call this the yard gar at best, though process of elimination puts this in the middle.

So, what was it?



Dan,
That would be an Asylum 13. ( $6 at my local. )
Strange that you picked up all that pepper. I don't get that from this cigar. I AM NOT a pepper fan in the least.
I understand your feeling about the TAT "pepper". I felt the same way about them in the beginning, and then all of a sudden my feelings changed. I am still not a big TAT fan, for the most part, but I do like their "MIAMI" line quite
a bit . . . but I digress.
Back to the Asylum 13,
Don't feel bad about not finishing the cigar. It doesn't matter if it's a yard gar or a top shelf stick . . . If you don't like it, you don't like it. I've put down a few "top shelf" stogies over the years.
I can't see smoking something that I just don't like.

jes
danmdevries Offline
#83 Posted:
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jespear wrote:
Dan,
That would be an Asylum 13. ( $6 at my local. )
Strange that you picked up all that pepper. I don't get that from this cigar. I AM NOT a pepper fan in the least.
I understand your feeling about the TAT "pepper". I felt the same way about them in the beginning, and then all of a sudden my feelings changed. I am still not a big TAT fan, for the most part, but I do like their "MIAMI" line quite
a bit . . . but I digress.
Back to the Asylum 13,
Don't feel bad about not finishing the cigar. It doesn't matter if it's a yard gar or a top shelf stick . . . If you don't like it, you don't like it. I've put down a few "top shelf" stogies over the years.
I can't see smoking something that I just don't like.

jes


Have tried Asylums in the past with the same results as above.

Dunno that it was so much a true pepper as much as it tastes like the only consideration put into the blend was to make it the strongest flavor and strength that they could make.

Replaced it with a Padilla 1932 which disappointed. I remember those beig good
bgz Offline
#84 Posted:
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Alright my fellow cbidders... you are going to witness my first cigar review... ever!

And it's a blind one, so please excuse my noobishness.

I'm reviewing frozen phoenix's Cigar #1, it was a monster, a Churchill size, but the ring gauge seemed to be a little over 50, the cigar was huge.

To start out, took the wife out to dinner and had a giant margarita and we went back to the house to have a drink, and I wanted to do my first review. I wanted to do one on a cigar I wanted to thoroughly enjoy so I did the smell test, and I picked the one I thought smelled the best. I picked the one that had that "it" factor that I tend to look for when I pick one to smoke, you know, the Padrons, the Pepin mades, the CC's ya... this one had it.

So I chopped it with a slim straight cut (it's the kind I prefer and almost all my cuts are this). Analyzed the cigar a bit, it had minor size veins, nothing dramatic, the smell was fantastic, but the prelight puff, I caught a note of fish, I know, that's weird, but it's what it had. There was a few soft spots on the cigar, so the construction didn't catch e as top notch. so at this point I was a little worried. I poured me some Dickel 12, and was ready to go.

So I fired this monster up, and it is usually a size I dedicate to smoking on the golf course, normally I smoke robusto or smaller when I'm just chilling on my porch... and then I caught a slight pepper blast. It wasn't anything major, just a slight blast that you get from most cigars. It quickly mellowed out into a more medium profile. Draw was a little bit tight of perfect, but was good, and the first ash held to about an inch and a half.

So as I puffed the first third, like I said, it mellowed quickly and seemed to be burning a little quick at the start, so I slowed down my puffing a little bit and it slowed down as well. When it started mellowing, it started to gain a little sweeter profile which lead me to believe that this cigar was going to be alright after all.

As I started rounding out the first third and moving into the second, the sweetness was still there and I started catching some notes. I'm no pro at this, so I was trying to write them down as I experienced them, and some of the first notes I started to catch were a more nutty flavor that reminded me of almonds. I was catching several notes in the mean time, but couldn't really put my finger on some of them, but then the cigar became really creamy... at this point, I was thinking Cuban for sure.

At about the half way point through the second, I was about an hour in and caught some Graham cracker notes, YUM! ... And as I got deeper through the second, that special spice/twang started kicking in and getting more pronounced.

Going into the third, the spice started kicking in, and it was still creamy and sweet so I was pretty much just enjoying the cigar and knocking down my whisky.

Then I went into the "Oh Yeah" phase of the cigar, you know that point where all good cigars suddenly just get better, and better it got. I thoroughly enjoyed this smoke and nubbed it, the only way I could describe it is I smoked it to the bone. It took me about an 1:50 to smoke this monster and I enjoyed every minute of it.

I'm still kind of a noob, not as noob as I was a few months ago, so still a noob. I'm thinking this cigar was definitely Cuban, if not, a really good Pepin rolled cigar, because from what I've smoked so far, the only one who gets close to that Cuban flavor is Peppin, but I'm pretty damn sure it was Cuban. If not, I'm really rooting for it to be the yard gar of the bunch. I mean, I'm really really hoping it's the yard gar, because if it is, I'm going to buy like 5 boxes of them, rofl.

I'm pretty sure though that this was the premium of the bunch, and I'm pretty sure it was Cuban, the cigar was on point from start to finish. I don't know all my Cubans, so I'm just going to guess it was a damn fine Cuban, and that's it.

I have to know... what was that I smoked, because I can see this going with me to many golf courses in the future.

Thanks Joe for this fine smoke!
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#85 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Alright my fellow cbidders... you are going to witness my first cigar review... ever!

Cuban or Pepin Churchill

Thanks Joe for this fine smoke!


Oowee the booze gets your fingers rolling too eh.

Looking forward to seeing what that was
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#86 Posted:
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BGZ, I'm glad you throughly enjoyed the dog rocket of the group. Sorry for the size, I keep these around to satisfy the under educated cigar smokers that think a churchill is cool to smoke. You smoked a Torano Circa Vega Dominicana, and buying 5 mazos will only run you about $100-110, well that is what i usually get them for is the $1 per.

I personally have had good luck with Toranos for being a cheap smoke that im not afraid to throw if they burn like carp.

Now i may have to set aside 2 hours and see if these have gotten better in the last couple months, as the one i had to test these got pitched at the halfway point from over humidification in their original storage location.

Looking forward to the other 2 reviews.
danmdevries Offline
#87 Posted:
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Oh man, can't wait for bugz next two if that was the glowing review for the yard gar!
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This is fun to read! Maybe we can put together a round II when ya'll are done!
bgz Offline
#89 Posted:
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frozenphoenix1 wrote:
BGZ, I'm glad you throughly enjoyed the dog rocket of the group. Sorry for the size, I keep these around to satisfy the under educated cigar smokers that think a churchill is cool to smoke. You smoked a Torano Circa Vega Dominicana, and buying 5 mazos will only run you about $100-110, well that is what i usually get them for is the $1 per.

I personally have had good luck with Toranos for being a cheap smoke that im not afraid to throw if they burn like carp.

Now i may have to set aside 2 hours and see if these have gotten better in the last couple months, as the one i had to test these got pitched at the halfway point from over humidification in their original storage location.

Looking forward to the other 2 reviews.



I did thoroughly enjoy that cigar, I thought that it could have been the rocket cause the construction wasn't that great, and the burn wasn't that great, but I thought... who would send someone a churchill size dog rocket, that's just evil.

In any case, The flavor on it was great though! I was pretty loaded last night when I smoked it and wrote the review, so that might have had something to do with it, I probably could have smoked a gas station smoke and thought it was great, lol.

Seriously though, I'm probably going to pick up a bundle just to see if I still like them with the band on.
bgz Offline
#90 Posted:
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namadio wrote:
This is fun to read! Maybe we can put together a round II when ya'll are done!


Ya, that was quite fun. My wife is all picking on me as she drank her wine watching scribble notes on a piece of paper. It was the first time I ever actually thought about what kind of notes I was picking up in a cigar. I think the process of doing this actually made the experience more enjoyable for me, as I usually don't particularly like a 2 hour smoke.
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#91 Posted:
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Cigar #3 from mountainman is a 5x50 double perfecto. Dark brown wrapper with a bit of oily sheen and a couple protruding veins. Good firm roll and construction throughout. Straight cut about an eighth of an inch off and gave it a cold draw. Taste of pepper hit my tounge and a sweet tobacco lingered. Toasted the small foot and started this off.

Expected a pepper bomb but this started off with a sweet tobacco major note and a flavor i cant place that lingers in the mouth. An inch in and this thing is harsh and there is almost an herb flavor building on my pallette.

Halfway through i had an audible crack happen around the 2/3 mark onthe wrapper and may have been from band removal. This cigar is not in my wheelhouse at all and almost tastes infused or chemically enhanced. Should not have retrohaled either as my eyes will not stop watering now.

Milked it to an inch and a half left, but needed to put it down. Not sure what this was, but it has to be the yard gar i hope.

Let me know what i can do to steer clear of this one.
mountainman Offline
#92 Posted:
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Didn't remember it being all that peppery. But yes this was the yard gar and was a foundry sodium
bgz Offline
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Alright, after my major fail of a review of the first cigar, on to frozenphoenix #2.

I was a bit biased before smoking the first one, because at first glance and smell of all the cigars, I had this one pegged as the yard gar. Before I smoked any of them, I had the first pegged as the mid range cigar, it's obvious that I have no idea what I'm talking about, so here we go...

#2 had a splotchy wrapper and was pretty veiny relative to the other 2 smokes. Before I torched it tonight, I examined it a little better and the construction seemed decent as there were no major soft spots, but there were several minor cracks in the wrapper.

Also upon examination, I noticed a lot of glue spots on this cigar, and in random spots as well, more so than most cigars that I've seen. Smelled at about the center of the cigar and on the foot of the cigar, the middle had a funky smell to it, and the foot wasn't that much better.

Gave it a straight cut and prelight draw was a bit tight, then I fired it up. The draw was still a bit tight after I lit it, but had a slight pepper blast to it on the start. Pepper staid for a few puffs, then set in to what I would call a med-full range.

After about an inch in, those little cracks I mentioned started turning into big cracks. It was still hard to draw at this point, but then it started canoeing on me. I wanted to see if it would self correct, but it never did, had to do a major touch up a little way through it. It was still hard to draw at that point.

Then all of a sudden, it blew up on me, but having doubts about what I was smoking... at this point, thinking it has to be the premium just because with my luck, that's just what I thought... after all, the flavor wasn't bad, wasn't spectacular or anything, but wasn't bad, so I muscled through it, picking off the pieces of the wrapper here and there trying to salvage it.

The draw got looser after it was well blown up, and at this point, the only thing holding the cigar together was the white band with a #2 on it.

I had to surrender with about 2.5 to 3 inches or so left on it, tried to muscle through it, but it was just becoming a chore, so I gave it up.

If I would have smoked this one first, I would have definitely called it the yard gar, so because my guess was so far off on the first, I'm going to guess this was the premium, lol... but I'm hoping it was the mid range.

Again, decent flavor on it, but unfortunately it blew up on me... happens.

bgz Offline
#94 Posted:
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Oh, and it was also a Churchill... thinking frozen was just dumping his Churchills on me, lol.
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#95 Posted:
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I hadnt tried foundry yet and was looking for a good one to start off with, but this was not a good start.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#96 Posted:
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Bgz, well this review session is acting the opposite of what it is supposed to be. That was a God of Fire churchill from a few years back, so Im really sorry it blew out on you.

Enjoy the last one as it will be the best one of the bunch and a better size.
danmdevries Offline
#97 Posted:
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GOF some of the best I've had.

Bugz is fired.
danmdevries Offline
#98 Posted:
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Love blind reviews so much.

Can't wait for the summer blind review
bgz Offline
#99 Posted:
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I said it had decent flavor!

I probably should have let them rest for a full week before I started doing the reviews, I might have got a little over zealous with it.

Are you sure you didn't accidentally swap #1 with #2? lol


Edit:

Major blow out on the highway waiting for a tow truck to take me to buy new tires lol...

Thinking about that smoke, really wish I could have made it to the good part of the cigar.

The flavor was getting better when I got fed up with it, if it didn't blow out on me I'm sure the review would have been much different.

Thanks for the opportunity to try a gof frozen, I think I'll have to try another at some point to give it another shot.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#100 Posted:
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Yes... the torano is a pig of a cigar and much larger on the rg.

The rest in your humidity might be best the next time, but i do keep mine around 65 so if you like them higher it could have caused the split.

Dont let Dr dan get to you. Ive had the high end cigar split on me from lack of rest as well.
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