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Ramon Bueso project...is it just me..
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hnixon12 Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2015, 6:02 AM EST
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I had my first Ramon Bueso "project", and I dont know if its just me, but if I closed my eyes, I swear I was garing a Oliva V...i know this may be a stretch, and I am no cigar afficionado, but the flavor profile is sooo close, I know we are talking gold and bronze I guess, but really enjoyed it because I ama Oliva V fan..i had the toro vitola
KingoftheCove Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2015, 9:10 AM EST
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they taste nothing alike imo.....
but that's just me......
99cobra2881 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2015, 9:23 AM EST
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Maybe smoked a young one to get that similar flavor profile?? I always thought they were very different profiles. I might need to smoke two back to back.

Taste is subjective hell I smoked a cheap cigar last night with a years rest and the retrohale towards the last third tasted just like after I take a drink of dr pepper and exhale. Anyone else might not have gotten that flavor but I did and it tasted good so if the genesis tastes like an oliva v then that's awesome.
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#4 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2015, 12:12 PM EST
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Think it is your perception. I find the 2 very different.
bgz Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Jun 12 2015, 1:28 PM EST
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I agree, nothing alike.

Project just tastes like a good Maduro worthy of car rides to/from work.

Oliva V is more a golfing dark habano type smoke.

To me, it really doesn't remind me of anything, but does taste mostly like a maduro.
jespear Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 6:59 AM EST
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I think it kinda tastes like a Pepin/Padilla 1932. Sarcasm
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 11:13 AM EST
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The Project tastes more like an Undercrown than it does a Oliva V IMO.
KingoftheCove Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 4:40 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The Project tastes more like an Undercrown than it does a Oliva V IMO.

+1
Here's a prediction:
Ramon Bueso will, sooner than later, come out with a 4x40ish "mini Genesis".
I think it will be good.
I think it will sell well.
99cobra2881 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 4:43 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
+1
Here's a prediction:
Ramon Bueso will, sooner than later, come out with a 4x40ish "mini Genesis".
I think it will be good.
I think it will sell well.



I think I would bid.
I think I might even overbid on such a cigar.
[email protected] Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 7:15 PM EST
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Love the "V", Habano, spicy, etc.

Love the Project also, but to me, definitely a different taste, sweet, cocoa, less spice
99cobra2881 Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 8:24 PM EST
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Is it just me or does talking about a cigar in here do this to cigars out there?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...-Ramon-Bueso-Robusto-20/
0824 Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 9:40 PM EST
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Nah.

In fact, this is the only cigar DP would pay $3 each for.

RIP DP.......
robertsccr5 Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 9:42 PM EST
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[email protected] wrote:
Love the "V", Habano, spicy, etc.

Love the Project also, but to me, definitely a different taste, sweet, cocoa, less spice

Have you tried the Project Habano yet?
0824 Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 9:53 PM EST
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And, if a Quorum smokes better than a Cuban Cohiba, comparing a Ramon Bueso to an Oliva V is not too far of a stretch. Wouldn't you say?
tonygraz Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 11:13 PM EST
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99cobra2881 wrote:
Is it just me or does talking about a cigar in here do this to cigars out there?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...-Ramon-Bueso-Robusto-20/


It's not just you. Everytime I go to post on the whatcha smoking topic there is a guest or 3 or 4 or more looking in. If we talked up Ron Mexico and CBID put up some fivers, they would probably get 15 or more for them.
99cobra2881 Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jun 13 2015, 11:14 PM EST
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0824 wrote:
And, if a Quorum smokes better than a Cuban Cohiba, comparing a Ramon Bueso to an Oliva V is not too far of a stretch. Wouldn't you say?


Depends.... Is this an aged quorum or rotgt (right off the garbage truck) quorum?
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#17 Posted: Sun, Jun 14 2015, 5:56 PM EST
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Also love the Genesis Habano
SmokeMonkey Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jun 14 2015, 6:57 PM EST
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I've got two Genesis Habanos I'm resting based on what I saw on previous threads. Looking forward to having one in a month or two. Never tried the Project, but it's on my list.
hnixon12 Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jun 15 2015, 8:00 AM EST
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I can see it was just me LOL!!!
hnixon12 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jun 17 2015, 5:34 AM EST
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well, i had another Project last night, and yeah, there is a big difference, so i jumped the gun on my feedback, def
not a Oliva V! sorry guys!Frying pan I am gonna try the Genesis Habano
99cobra2881 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jun 17 2015, 6:39 AM EST
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You know I had an Oliva v Melanio last night and it tasted just like a Melanio!!!

Haha just stackin some chit on yaHerfing
hnixon12 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jun 17 2015, 8:59 AM EST
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99cobra2881 wrote:
You know I had an Oliva v Melanio last night and it tasted just like a Melanio!!!

Haha just stackin some chit on yaHerfing



its all good, I deserved it, one cigar doesnt a comparison make! LOL
Mr. Jones Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jun 17 2015, 7:33 PM EST
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i never had an Oliva V....
but Ramon's genisis , the project
are damn good cigars...
i've had maybe 2 semi- harsh ones out of 20-30......
all way different invetories and times...
perfect burn, perfect construction....
just damn good...
tonygraz Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 6:13 AM EST
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Smoked my first Odyssey the other day and was not impressed at all. May dig out a Genesis if they have rested enough after we get home.
hnixon12 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 7:45 AM EST
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I had my first Ramon habano...not a bad stick
KingoftheCove Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 9:32 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Smoked my first Odyssey the other day and was not impressed at all. May dig out a Genesis if they have rested enough after we get home.

same opinion here......................but I smoked mine about a year ago..................have a handful of them that have now had a long nap.............think I'll re-visit this morning (I was supposed to do this a while back in another thread)
KingoftheCove Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 9:33 AM EST
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hnixon12 wrote:
I had my first Ramon habano...not a bad stick

how much rest did it have?
hnixon12 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 10:33 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
how much rest did it have?



I am not a rester...i am a smoker..i dont have enough inventory to rest them lol....it was right out of the CBID box!
KingoftheCove Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 2:55 PM EST
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Well just finished an Odyssey Toro.......
first inch was meh........not newspaper meh.............but somewhat bland
then into the second third the cigar tried to give off some flavor.........hints of nuts/mild tobacco
I ditched the final third.........(bitterness came to play)

Summary:
If you like mild/medium smokes, and can get them for cheap..................you might give a fiver a try....
For me, the one year added rest did nothing.....................so smoke em if ya got em
I won't be buying again....

Bueso hits a grand slam with the Genesis imho.........
Then strikes out looking at 3 pitches with the Odyssey.......
I'm hoping he at least gets a hit with the Habano.......got a box of Robs ($37) I'll break into in a month or two to try one out.
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#30 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 3:10 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Well just finished an Odyssey Toro.......
first inch was meh........not newspaper meh.............but somewhat bland
then into the second third the cigar tried to give off some flavor.........hints of nuts/mild tobacco
I ditched the final third.........(bitterness came to play)

Summary:
If you like mild/medium smokes, and can get them for cheap..................you might give a fiver a try....
For me, the one year added rest did nothing.....................so smoke em if ya got em
I won't be buying again....

Bueso hits a grand slam with the Genesis imho.........
Then strikes out looking at 3 pitches with the Odyssey.......
I'm hoping he at least gets a hit with the Habano.......got a box of Robs ($37) I'll break into in a month or two to try one out.


Theyre TERRIBLE please stop buying them
tonygraz Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Jun 25 2015, 8:56 PM EST
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Smoked an Odyssey the other day - second third did not impress me as much as it did the King and the final third wasn't too bitter.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:16 AM EST
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rrumba gifted me some Projects that had about 18 months rest on them. Have to say they were MUCH better than the ones I had from the sampler which I smoked fairly soon after getting them. None of the ashy harsh taste (that I had with the "fresh" ones) with these rested ones. These are going to be nice smokable sticks. Nothing overly amazing but good.

I still prefer the Habanos. And the Projects are not a stick I would buy to wait a year-and-a-half to smoke!
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#33 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:31 AM EST
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^ if you have the room to bury em for a long time, they're decent enough after aging to be worth more than the $40-50 a box that they cost.

But if space is a premium, I agree. Hard to justify aging unless the end result is spectacular.
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#34 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:36 AM EST
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Parked my Project Habanos in an ammo can with some Spanish Cedar and a Boveda, stuck it on a shelf along with another ammo can of MB3s treated the same. Don't plan to open em again for a year. We'll see.
KingoftheCove Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:58 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
^ if you have the room to bury em for a long time, they're decent enough after aging to be worth more than the $40-50 a box that they cost.

But if space is a premium, I agree. Hard to justify aging unless the end result is spectacular.

meh......the Bueso Genesis suq...................
Bur Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 12:20 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
It's not just you. Everytime I go to post on the whatcha smoking topic there is a guest or 3 or 4 or more looking in. If we talked up Ron Mexico and CBID put up some fivers, they would probably get 15 or more for them.


Ron Mexico's for only $15 a fiver?

Better not post when I smoke John Bull Proper English in the Briar thread either so it stays a dollar a pouch!

Herfing
99cobra2881 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 12:57 PM EST
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I snapped a screenshot on my phone of the "what you smoking" thread with 36 guests looking at what is posted.

72 guests in the cigar forum and 157 in the trades forum. I'd never seen so many in here at once. Keeping the lights on that's for sure.
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#38 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 1:22 PM EST
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99cobra2881 wrote:
I snapped a screenshot on my phone of the "what you smoking" thread with 36 guests looking at what is posted.

72 guests in the cigar forum and 157 in the trades forum. I'd never seen so many in here at once. Keeping the lights on that's for sure.
Only if they buy.
99cobra2881 Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 3:35 PM EST
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Seeing what happens to prices out there after we talk about a cigar in here I'd say they're buying.
delta1 Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 3:46 PM EST
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Shhh...don't say anything about the 5 Vegas Gold Maduro!!!
KingoftheCove Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 5:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Shhh...don't say anything about the 5 Vegas Gold Maduro!!!

I likes dem waaaay better than the Genesis..................
tonygraz Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 7:37 PM EST
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Now there is a gem.
danmdevries Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 7:51 PM EST
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Pulled one out for tonight. Well over a year's nap. Big cedar spice, cocoa, and a sweet maduro finish. Still has a hint of grass, but honestly if this were smoked blindly I wouldn't be looking for it, and wouldn't notice.

I'd go so far as to say this (meaning this particular one, as I've had everything from good to bad in this box) cigar could play with the big boys. Really working for me. Loads of sweet spice and creamy texture and the burn is perfect.
bgz Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:11 PM EST
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Nice review of that 5 Vegas gold Dan. I had similar experiences with it.
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#45 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 10:51 PM EST
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Everyone should buy multiple boxes of 5vegas gold.
tonygraz Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Aug 26 2015, 11:09 PM EST
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Danny, the gold maduros are even better.
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