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dirkglass Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 9:49 PM EST
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Just getting your guys' opinions on cigar brand trends:
1. Which cigar brands have been recently nerfed (made much worse)? Some brands that spring to mind are Rocky Patel, Gurkha (some lines - but all USED to be good), and Graycliff...
2. Which cigar brands are the fantasy sleepers of the cigar world (underpriced for how good they are)?
sd72 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 9:58 PM EST
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Sorry, I don't smoke.
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:00 PM EST
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do you know how worried we've been?

almost 12 years! You didn't write. You didn't call...go to your room young man.
shaun341 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:12 PM EST
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I got nerfed once and my nip ple has never been the same since
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:18 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
I got nerfed once and my nip ple has never been the same since


So nerfing is when a guy mounts another guy and pinches his nipples instead giving him a reach around???

Oh my ,,,
jespear Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:19 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
do you know how worried we've been?

almost 12 years! You didn't write. You didn't call...go to your room young man.


That cracked me up, Frank.
Reminds me of a punchline from an old joke..
KingoftheCove Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:26 PM EST
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dirkglass wrote:
Just getting your guys' opinions on cigar brand trends:
1. Which cigar brands have been recently nerfed (made much worse)? Some brands that spring to mind are Rocky Patel, Gurkha (some lines - but all USED to be good), and Graycliff...
2. Which cigar brands are the fantasy sleepers of the cigar world (underpriced for how good they are)?

Maybe I'm not reading it correctly.........but did you say ALL gurkhaaaas used to be good?
d'oh!
Ok.........I'll leave that alone for now.

After 12 years, you want us to divulge our sleepers?
You haven't been able to find any under the radar cigars that are s good bang for the buck in all that time?
d'oh!
Ok, I'll give you one, that can be had for under $3 if you know where and when.........but not a sleeper per se........just that it can be had for under $3, delivered, every now and again.
MB3...........let them sit for at least 6 months..........fine smoke. The ones I'm smoking now have over a year on them........fantastic.
Way too many cigars to list that were great in the OR, only to become mediocre.
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:31 PM EST
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dharbolt Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:32 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/mobile/auction/lot/2395531/latelier-trocadero-montaigne-single/

For $2/ea these are a keeper.


馃枓 lol
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:35 PM EST
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I won 1 on a recent order as an add on, I was curious as I've not got to all the L'Atelier offerings. It was very decent.
KingoftheCove Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:37 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/mobile/auction/lot/2395531/latelier-trocadero-montaigne-single/

For $2/ea these are a keeper.

Have you been drinking?
Your standard answer here is the Illusione Roth IIRC....
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:40 PM EST
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Or the Tatuaje Tattoo.
shaun341 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:43 PM EST
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Honestly I haven't liked anything Lat has offered yet. Under $3 cigar is limiting your range too much, now up it to $4 and there is a ton in that area.
dharbolt Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:45 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Honestly I haven't liked anything Lat has offered yet. Under $3 cigar is limiting your range too much, now up it to $4 and there is a ton in that area.


Really? I love the mad44. We seem to have similar tastes.
KingoftheCove Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:45 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Honestly I haven't liked anything Lat has offered yet. Under $3 cigar is limiting your range too much, now up it to $4 and there is a ton in that area.

For you that's a problem...........but then.......you never attended DP Newell University either......so...


RIP DP....
dharbolt Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:46 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Have you been drinking?
Your standard answer here is the Illusione Roth IIRC....

Not many better in the range imo.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Aug 26 2016, 10:46 PM EST
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Love the 44 maduro.
Hmhaines Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 12:38 AM EST
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CAO Black is cheap on here, I enjoy those. The 1878 Oscura from PDR ain't too bad either
TheSmokensip Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 5:37 AM EST
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shaun341 Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 8:16 AM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
Really? I love the mad44. We seem to have similar tastes.


Not sure I have had a 44 maduro but do remember smoking a larger one and not being impressed with it, same with the la mission. We do have similar taste but for some reason I just don't enjoy the Lat lines as much as others.
jjanecka Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 12:51 PM EST
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I haven't had a $3 smoke in at least six years but I've smoke a lot of six dollar smokes that should have been $3.
Palama Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 3:23 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Love the 44 maduro.


Duly noted.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 6:45 PM EST
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dirkglass wrote:

1. Which cigar brands have been recently nerfed (made much worse)? Some brands that spring to mind are Rocky Patel, Gurkha (some lines - but all USED to be good), and Graycliff...


Recently? IMO, Graycliff has sucked unbelievable amounts of ass since at least 2009 and possibly earlier, with their enormously-high prices as the cherry on top of the excrement cake!

In fact, their bang-for-buck was so incredibly low that a major online seller, whose name I won't mention here, removed all Graycliffs from their site, and their Graycliff "brands" page was turned into a blank page except for text saying something like, "Due to very low quality and very high prices, we no longer carry Graycliff cigars." Shortly after that, they removed the Graycliff brand page entirely.

They disassemble themselves as you smoke, taste like nothing, and cost $10-20 each. At least, that's been my experience, repeatedly.

Quote:
2. Which cigar brands are the fantasy sleepers of the cigar world (underpriced for how good they are)?


Pinar Del Rio.
Whistlebritches Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 6:57 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
do you know how worried we've been?

almost 12 years! You didn't write. You didn't call...go to your room young man.



Right there's why I love you like a Brother.


讙指讘讜止讛址 讞指诪值砖讈
KingoftheCove Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 7:00 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
I haven't had a $3 smoke in at least six years but I've smoke a lot of six dollar smokes that should have been $3.

Elitist........................or....................over-bidder

Think

Since you've smoked a lot of $6 cigars that should have been $3, I'm guessing over- bidder.
Thanks for keeping the lights on here.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Aug 27 2016, 11:17 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Right there's why I love you like a Brother.


讙指讘讜止讛址 讞指诪值砖讈

we are brutha's, brutha!


I had to get that translated...up top, yea!
dstieger Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2016, 9:18 AM EST
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dirkglass wrote:
Just getting your guys' opinions ....... fantasy sleepers .



The opening few seconds of Lost in Translation
jjanecka Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2016, 11:49 AM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Elitist........................or....................over-bidder

Think

Since you've smoked a lot of $6 cigars that should have been $3, I'm guessing over- bidder.
Thanks for keeping the lights on here.


I MUST ALWAYS WIN EVERY AUCTION
KingoftheCove Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2016, 1:04 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
I MUST ALWAYS WIN EVERY AUCTION

Applause
t33bone Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Aug 29 2016, 4:37 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly.........but did you say ALL gurkhaaaas used to be good?
d'oh!
Ok.........I'll leave that alone for now.

After 12 years, you want us to divulge our sleepers?
You haven't been able to find any under the radar cigars that are s good bang for the buck in all that time?
d'oh!
Ok, I'll give you one, that can be had for under $3 if you know where and when.........but not a sleeper per se........just that it can be had for under $3, delivered, every now and again.
MB3...........let them sit for at least 6 months..........fine smoke. The ones I'm smoking now have over a year on them........fantastic.
Way too many cigars to list that were great in the OR, only to become mediocre.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I continue to get a few and let them rest.
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