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MACS Offline
#251 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 5:07 PM EST
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Bah, no matter how many instances of fraud you see, all the usual suspects in here will tell you it's a drop in the bucket and means nothing. Frying pan
victor809 Offline
#252 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 6:04 PM EST
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I remember 10 years ago the dems had the exact same reports.... Pretty sure you didn't care then.

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#253 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 6:14 PM EST
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9659694/US-election-2012-voting-machine-changes-vote-for-Barack-Obama-to-Mitt-Romney.html
victor809 Offline
#254 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 6:16 PM EST
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But... For what it's worth snopes says the entire thing is mostly false.
http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/
MACS Offline
#255 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 7:30 PM EST
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See? Toldya.
banderl Offline
#256 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 7:39 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
But... For what it's worth snopes says the entire thing is mostly false.
http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/



Way to burst their bubble, Victor.
victor809 Offline
#257 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 7:55 PM EST
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MACS... I didn't tell you it was a drop in the bucket. I told you you didn't see any fraud....

And I told you the same claims were made years ago by the other side of the aisle. Somehow I didn't have to see constant whiny threads about it then.... But by all means, play the victim... Heck with all the fraud you're better off not voting. If you vote for someone, the machine will just change it to Clinton. If you stay home, it won't get that extra Clinton vote.
MACS Offline
#258 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 8:36 PM EST
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I never claimed to be a victim, and I already voted by mail.

You have a short memory though. There were constant whiny threads about GWB all the time.
victor809 Offline
#259 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 8:54 PM EST
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About voter fraud? I don't recall any. (it's possible that one exists, and I either forgot or didn't see it... But I'd have to require a link to believe you)
victor809 Offline
#260 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 8:59 PM EST
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Let me rephrase that statement. I know there was plenty of arguments around the Florida dangling chads...

I am specifically saying I don't remember anyone complaining about voting machines changing votes from Obama to Romney back in 2012. Yet you haughtily claim we're all going to poo poo it now. If no one took it seriously when it happened to the Democrats, why wouldn't you expect it to be dismissed now.
ZRX1200 Offline
#261 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 9:00 PM EST
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Christine Gregoir vs Dino Rossi.

Rossi won two counts, then DemocRATs magically found a box of missing ballot that pushed her JUST past him.

Oh.....and there were 5k dead people votes in that election who overwhelmingly voted for her.
teedubbya Offline
#262 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 9:37 PM EST
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The court disagreed.
MACS Offline
#263 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 10:41 PM EST
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There's a song by Kelly Clarkson I think you'd like, Victor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wSKBNP-pEg
victor809 Offline
#264 Posted: Wed, Oct 26 2016, 11:43 PM EST
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If you were correct more often I wouldn't have to point out where you're wrong.
DrafterX Offline
#265 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 7:06 AM EST
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Sounds like we're damn lucky to have you.... Think
tonygraz Offline
#266 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 8:32 AM EST
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Somebody has to fact check you right wingers.
MACS Offline
#267 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 9:02 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Somebody has to fact check you right wingers.


Says the guy who is almost as full of sh*t as Victor. RollEyes
victor809 Offline
#268 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 9:39 AM EST
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If I'm full of sh*t then you'd have no problem pointing out where I am wrong... Instead of resorting to grade school "know it all" comments.
tailgater Offline
#269 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 10:18 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The court disagreed.


Yes.
And no.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Judge-upholds-Gregoire-s-election-Rossi-won-t-1175262.php

"... required Rossi to show that Gregoire owed her victory to illegal votes. They also call for the litigants to identify specific illegal votes and by whom they were cast. And they say that if there's no sign of corruption by elections workers in handling an illegal vote that can't be assigned to one candidate or the other, that vote must be treated as valid."

In other words: they couldn't prove that specific votes were illegal.

Of course, a simple ID requirement would have helped immensely.

But that's an outrageous suggestion and obviously intended to disenfranchise liberal voters only.

(insert sarcasm here).
DrafterX Offline
#270 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 10:24 AM EST
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true.. true... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#271 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 1:58 PM EST
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So it's yes. The allegations were never proven and elsewhere it seems to indicate they were proven false. The pesky courts demanded proof. TG that's the side you are normally on.

There really is no credible proof of any fraud or need to do anything. It was an allegation without proof and continues to be. If there was proof it would be huge news. Instead its blog fodder.

Now days it seems that allegations are good enough and proof unnecessary. If you are investigated enough you must be guilty.
DrafterX Offline
#272 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 2:40 PM EST
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Not if Obama squashes the investigation up front... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#273 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 2:45 PM EST
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is that what's been happening? I guess we don't need proof. Get a rope.
DrafterX Offline
#274 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 2:56 PM EST
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prolly shouldn't string this president up tho.. any others we might get away with... just sayin.. Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#275 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 5:54 PM EST
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Looks like we better keep an eye now on the republicans in Florida and Indiana for significant voter fraud.
tailgater Offline
#276 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 10:37 PM EST
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OJ was innocent.
tailgater Offline
#277 Posted: Thu, Oct 27 2016, 10:37 PM EST
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OJ was innocent.
teedubbya Offline
#278 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 6:35 AM EST
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Lol. I use that all the time too. It's fun.
DrafterX Offline
#279 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 7:16 AM EST
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I heard they're just gonna give the job to Trump and cancel the election... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#280 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 7:30 AM EST
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True true. The bundys will take over all the polling stations because the government is unfair and stuff.

I heard OJ is going to be nominated for the Supreme Court.
DrafterX Offline
#281 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 7:37 AM EST
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da Juice..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#282 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 7:40 AM EST
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Yea. Hertz is gonna rehire him and stuff too. But the suitcase he jumps over will be smaller and stuff.

DrafterX Offline
#283 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 7:53 AM EST
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they should just put him on a Segway with a brushguard... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#284 Posted: Fri, Oct 28 2016, 9:22 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Lol. I use that all the time too. It's fun.


It is fun.
Much better than a reasonable interpretation and reading comprehension.
banderl Offline
#285 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 5:21 PM EST
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first voter fraud arrest of the season, and the party supported is....
the gop

the first arrest for attempted voter fraud in the 2016 election goes to a Donald Trump supporter in Iowa.

Terri Rote, 55, was arrested on first-degree election misconduct charges after trying to vote for the GOP nominee at two separate polling stations in Des Moines Thursday, according to the Des-Moines Register.

Rote, a registered Republican, first showed up to the Polk County Election Office to submit an early ballot, and shortly thereafter went to a county satellite voting location with a second ballot. The voter fraud offense she was booked on is a Class D felony that could land her in jail for up to five years if convicted.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2850101
MACS Offline
#286 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 5:46 PM EST
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Good. Unlike you, I want this crap found, and prosecuted. I don't care which party the perp votes for.

We all get ONE vote. That means if you're rich, poor, lib, con, we're equal on election day... and anyone voting more than once deserves to be prosecuted. And if you think it isn't happening for Hillary... you're even more of an idiot than I initially thought.

Maybe if they catch a few more Trump voters trying to cheat the dems will want something done?? Nah. Then they'd get caught, too. They prefer to be better cheaters instead of requiring ID.
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#287 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 5:52 PM EST
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I agree... I don't care who they were voting for. .. Mellow
banderl Offline
#288 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:02 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Good. Unlike you, I want this crap found, and prosecuted. I don't care which party the perp votes for.

We all get ONE vote. That means if you're rich, poor, lib, con, we're equal on election day... and anyone voting more than once deserves to be prosecuted. And if you think it isn't happening for Hillary... you're even more of an idiot than I initially thought.

Maybe if they catch a few more Trump voters trying to cheat the dems will want something done?? Nah. Then they'd get caught, too. They prefer to be better cheaters instead of requiring ID.



Hey Mr. Know It All, please post where I've ever said that I'm alfight with voter fraud?
DrafterX Offline
#289 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:10 PM EST
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Weren't you against showing IDs..?? That would make you against voter fraud prevention. .. Mellow
banderl Offline
#290 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Weren't you against showing IDs..?? That would make you against voter fraud prevention. .. Mellow



The woman cited tried to vote twice, would an ID law have prevented that?
banderl Offline
#291 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:35 PM EST
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This happened in Iowa, they don't have Voter ID laws there. How did they possibly catch her?
MACS Offline
#292 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:37 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Hey Mr. Know It All, please post where I've ever said that I'm alfight with voter fraud?


Mr. Know it All is Victor. I was assuming, based on your aversion to requiring voters show picture ID.

If you are, in fact, in favor of voter ID... then carry on. If not, my comment is valid, and you can pour yourself a cup.
MACS Offline
#293 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:37 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
This happened in Iowa, they don't have Voter ID laws there. How did they possibly catch her?


Showing ID would have made it easier. How many did they not catch?
banderl Offline
#294 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:43 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Showing ID would have made it easier. How many did they not catch?


How do you know that it would have made it "easier"?
How did they catch her without an ID law?
How many did they not catch?
You're the guy claiming that it's a rampant problem, answer your own question.
MACS Offline
#295 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 6:58 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
If you are, in fact, in favor of voter ID... then carry on. If not, my comment is valid, and you can pour yourself a cup.


I thought I told you to pour yourself a cup? Oh... my bad. I neglected to say it was a cup of shut the f**k up.

Now ya know. BigGrin
DrafterX Offline
#296 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 7:03 PM EST
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Bandy hates voter fraud prevention. .. Mellow
MACS Offline
#297 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 7:06 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
How do you know that it would have made it "easier"?
How did they catch her without an ID law?
How many did they not catch?
You're the guy claiming that it's a rampant problem, answer your own question.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04
banderl Offline
#298 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 7:10 PM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayKOlLhlQsc
MACS Offline
#299 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 8:02 PM EST
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HA! Funny... just not exactly sure what it has to do with our conversation.

Maybe you could draw me a map?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtkX3OyPF4Q
DrafterX Offline
#300 Posted: Sat, Oct 29 2016, 9:40 PM EST
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I'll have to look at da links later... Mellow
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