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Burner02 Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 5:02 PM EST
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Washington D.C. – First Grandma Marian Robinson, 79, will receive a lifetime 160K government pension when she leaves the White House next year, according to congressional budget statements.

According to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Mrs. Robinson earned the lifetime pension for “services rendered as full-time/in-home caregiver” for granddaughters Malia, 18, and Sasha, 15, during President Obama’s two terms in office.
In January of 2009, it was reported that Mrs. Robinson was living in the White House full-time to tend to her granddaughters. She was the first live-in grandmother at the White House since Elivera M. Doud, the mother of Mamie Eisenhower, during the Eisenhower Administration.

Critics say Mrs. Robinson should not profit from something as simple as taking care of family. Sally Kellner, volunteer/activist for the National Taxpayers Union, says this is a prime example of needless spending. “I think it’s ridiculous that taxpayers must pay this woman a lifetime salary for something everyday Americans do for free. We take care of our families because we love them, not for profit.”

When asked if Mrs. Robinson’s lifetime pension was justified, Senator Mike Enzi (R-WY), Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, declined to comment but said a special oversight committee would review all post-Obama Administration budgetary obligations.

Before her son-in-law became President of the United States, Mrs. Robinson had never been abroad. Now, after almost eight years of being the nation’s Grandmother-In-Chief, she’s a seasoned world traveler who has, accompanied by her granddaughters, been to Senegal, Tanzania, China and Italy, where she even met the Pope.

“She’s been the rock of the family,” says Obama family friend and biographer Peter Slevin. “It’s been a real blessing for the girls (Malia & Sasha) to have their grandma with them during these formative years,” he said.

Shortly after the 2008 presidential election, President Obama called Robinson “One of the unsung heroes” of his campaign, and said, “We couldn’t have done it without her.” First Lady Michelle Obama has said that if Robinson had not been available to step in and watch over the girls, Obama might never have launched his campaign.

While holding no official job title, Mrs. Robinson likely qualified for her lifetime pension under the “optional” eligibility requirement for the Civil Service Retirement Act (CSRS).
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 5:14 PM EST
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seems wrong to me.
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 5:38 PM EST
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None of you actually believe this do you?
Burner02 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 5:57 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
None of you actually believe this do you?



Surely the press would not distort the facts.
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 6:03 PM EST
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So you're saying you believe this?
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 6:04 PM EST
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so, if true, seems wrong to me.
Burner02 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 6:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So you're saying you believe this?



Do I think Obama is capable of putting his MIL on the government payroll for a BS job, that would an affirmative.
banderl Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 6:57 PM EST
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Claim: Marian Robinson, First Lady Michelle Obama's mother, will receive a lifetime pension of $160,000 from the U.S. government.
FALSE

Origin:On 17 October 2016, the Boston Tribune web site published an article reporting that Marian Robinson, the mother of First Lady Michelle Obama, would be receiving a lifetime pension of $160,000 per year from the United States government from having served as caretaker to the First Couple's children during Barack Obama's tenure in the White House:

According to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Mrs. Robinson earned the lifetime pension for “services rendered as full-time/in-home caregiver” for granddaughters Malia, 18, and Sasha, 15, during President Obama’s two terms in office.

In January of 2009, it was reported that Mrs. Robinson was living in the White House full-time to tend to her granddaughters. She was the first live-in grandmother at the White House since Elivera M. Doud, the mother of Mamie Eisenhower, during the Eisenhower Administration.

Critics say Mrs. Robinson should not profit from something as simple as taking care of family. Sally Kellner, volunteer/activist for the National Taxpayers Union, says this is a prime example of needless spending. “I think it’s ridiculous that taxpayers must pay this woman a lifetime salary for something everyday Americans do for free. We take care of our families because we love them, not for profit.”

There was no truth to this report. The Boston Tribune is a fake new site that masquerades as the online arm of a legitimate big-city newspaper in order to lure readers with fabricated clickbait stories.

The Boston Tribune article provided links to the general landing pages of the National Taxpayers Union, FOIA.gov, and the Civil Service Retirement System, both those links did not point to any relevant information.

The Former Presidents Act of 1958 provides lifetime benefits for presidents after they leave office. This law also provides some benefits for former first ladies (such as Secret Service protection), but not lifetime pensions for them (or their parents).

As the First Lady does not receive a salary or a pension, it is reasonable to assume that the unofficial position of "first grandma" is also unpaid and is similarly ineligible for a government pension.

The Boston Tribune is an offshoot of the fake Associated Media Coverage web site, which has previously published false stories claiming that Florida store owners killed 31 looters after Hurricane Matthew, that the practice of "open carry" was being banned in the United States," and that convicted murderer Jodi Arias had been released from prison.

Originally published: 18 October 2016



LOL

Burner gets his "news" from fake news sites.


How surprising.
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:18 PM EST
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currently, there is no newspaper in Boston by that name either.
Burner02 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:23 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Claim: Marian Robinson, First Lady Michelle Obama's mother, will receive a lifetime pension of $160,000 from the U.S. government.
FALSE

Origin:On 17 October 2016, the Boston Tribune web site published an article reporting that Marian Robinson, the mother of First Lady Michelle Obama, would be receiving a lifetime pension of $160,000 per year from the United States government from having served as caretaker to the First Couple's children during Barack Obama's tenure in the White House:

According to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), Mrs. Robinson earned the lifetime pension for “services rendered as full-time/in-home caregiver” for granddaughters Malia, 18, and Sasha, 15, during President Obama’s two terms in office.

In January of 2009, it was reported that Mrs. Robinson was living in the White House full-time to tend to her granddaughters. She was the first live-in grandmother at the White House since Elivera M. Doud, the mother of Mamie Eisenhower, during the Eisenhower Administration.

Critics say Mrs. Robinson should not profit from something as simple as taking care of family. Sally Kellner, volunteer/activist for the National Taxpayers Union, says this is a prime example of needless spending. “I think it’s ridiculous that taxpayers must pay this woman a lifetime salary for something everyday Americans do for free. We take care of our families because we love them, not for profit.”

There was no truth to this report. The Boston Tribune is a fake new site that masquerades as the online arm of a legitimate big-city newspaper in order to lure readers with fabricated clickbait stories.

The Boston Tribune article provided links to the general landing pages of the National Taxpayers Union, FOIA.gov, and the Civil Service Retirement System, both those links did not point to any relevant information.

The Former Presidents Act of 1958 provides lifetime benefits for presidents after they leave office. This law also provides some benefits for former first ladies (such as Secret Service protection), but not lifetime pensions for them (or their parents).

As the First Lady does not receive a salary or a pension, it is reasonable to assume that the unofficial position of "first grandma" is also unpaid and is similarly ineligible for a government pension.

The Boston Tribune is an offshoot of the fake Associated Media Coverage web site, which has previously published false stories claiming that Florida store owners killed 31 looters after Hurricane Matthew, that the practice of "open carry" was being banned in the United States," and that convicted murderer Jodi Arias had been released from prison.

Originally published: 18 October 2016



LOL

Burner gets his "news" from fake news sites.


How surprising.



Should have checked before I posted. But good to know that you depend on the accurate accounts from ABC, NBC, BSNBC, CBS and CNN.
banderl Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:26 PM EST
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None of those sources were used in my research.
Try again.
Burner02 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:26 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
currently, there is no newspaper in Boston by that name either.




My bad, I don't live in Boston. But there I a site for the Boston Tribune.
Burner02 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:27 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
None of those sources were used in my research.
Try again.



No, but you rely on them.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 7:38 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
My bad, I don't live in Boston. But there I a site for the Boston Tribune.

hey, I figured it sounded plausible, I was the first to post a reply!
banderl Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 8:43 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
No, but you rely on them.



Anything that I may rely on has been proven to be more factual than whatever slop you are consuming.
banderl Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 8:49 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
currently, there is no newspaper in Boston by that name either.



Way to burst Burner's bubble, Frank.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 8:52 PM EST
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Burner... Did you just compare a "news" story from a satirical website (this literally took 2 seconds to realize it smelled bad, and another 2 seconds to find that it's a satirical article) to actual news stations?

You do realize that no matter how biased they may (or may not) be, there is a difference between these sites and a site that makes sh%t up from nothing, right?

What's hilarious is you immediately grabbed that story and gave it more credibility than you give actual news sites, just because it confirmed what you expected.
fiddler898 Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 9:02 PM EST
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Snopes or no Snopes, people will believe what they want to believe. Facts seldom get in the way.
banderl Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 9:09 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Burner... Did you just compare a "news" story from a satirical website (this literally took 2 seconds to realize it smelled bad, and another 2 seconds to find that it's a satirical article) to actual news stations?

You do realize that no matter how biased they may (or may not) be, there is a difference between these sites and a site that makes sh%t up from nothing, right?

What's hilarious is you immediately grabbed that story and gave it more credibility than you give actual news sites, just because it confirmed what you expected.



Yes he did.
Burner02 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 9:09 PM EST
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Was going to respond to the wizards but got 18 in the morning and need to go plug in the battery charger for the golf cart.
Brewha Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 9:51 PM EST
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Well if golf was actually involved.......

Ok, free pass.
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Oct 23 2016, 9:59 PM EST
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^^^
yet another example of the forgiving nature of us libs.
TMCTLT Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 4:48 AM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Snopes or no Snopes, people will believe what they want to believe. Facts seldom get in the way.



And this has NEVER been truer with people in this country able to somehow find it acceptable to put Clinton in our WhiteHouse
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 6:47 AM EST
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Or trump
Buckwheat Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 7:44 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
currently, there is no newspaper in Boston by that name either.


The Boston Tribune is a fake new site that masquerades as the online arm of a legitimate big-city newspaper in order to lure readers with fabricated clickbait stories.
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 8:39 AM EST
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This is an outrage.. If anything she should collect unemployment until it runs out like everybody else.... Not talking
richokeeffe Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 8:47 AM EST
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For what it's worth, this is also not true about Congressmen and women. Except for the President, what any federal employee receives after retirement is based on number of years of service and how much they made. not certain, but I think it is like 1.1 percent for each year of service times the average of some number of months pay. Military retirement is a different formula.
Mr. Jones Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 9:47 AM EST
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It IS probably TRUE !!!!

It will be funded by all the BURGLARIES AND THEFTS FROM "TARGETED INDIVIDUALS" enacted, performed and carried out by the FBI -SSG DIVISION OF COWARD FELON THEIVES WHO DEPOSIT SAID MAL-APPROPRIATED FUNDS INTO THE BLACK BUDGET FUNDING PROGRAM.
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 9:55 AM EST
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Did TCBY just use a thread about a completely fabricated story against Obama as a platform to complain that people will believe any pro Clinton story?

It's like he has no sense of irony...
banderl Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 10:27 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Did TCBY just use a thread about a completely fabricated story against Obama as a platform to complain that people will believe any pro Clinton story?

It's like he has no sense...



Fixed
tonygraz Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 4:43 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Did TCBY just use a thread about a completely fabricated story against Obama as a platform to complain that people will believe any pro Clinton story?

It's like he has no sense of irony...


You should have stopped at sense.
MACS Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 5:23 PM EST
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You know... everyone screws up now and then. All you people dropping the hammer on burner best prepare yourselves for when your mistakes come to light.

May not be in this forum, but rest assured... it'll happen.
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 5:40 PM EST
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MACS... This is actually a pretty common occurrence here. I'm not sure if it's skewed because this is a right leaning (hah! Leaning...) site, but the number of times a right winger posts an article that's pure satire because it reinforces their preconceptions about Obama (or Clinton or Pelosi)... Then I have to hear how the media is against them.... When it's clear they don't have the ability to judge incoming information for veracity...

I've gotten caught by a satire site before... But it wasn't a political topic and definitely not something I'm particularly tied to. With those topics I know we'll enough to double check anything which jibes too well with my expectations.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 5:48 PM EST
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If burner was smart he'd change the title and original post to talk about how great hillary is...
Brewha Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Oct 24 2016, 7:28 PM EST
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Bruner is like a kid who keeps finding gold in his sand box.
Not knowing there are lots of neighborhood cat that play there too.....
Burner02 Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 6:50 AM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Snopes or no Snopes, people will believe what they want to believe. Facts seldom get in the way.


And that is a two way street.

Just glad we don't have a long list on Hillary that is ignored by the left biased media.
Burner02 Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 7:03 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
You know... everyone screws up now and then. All you people dropping the hammer on burner best prepare yourselves for when your mistakes come to light.

May not be in this forum, but rest assured... it'll happen.




Macs, you are very correct in that karma has away of arriving on scene when least expected. Being ridiculed on a cigar forum is not a big deal in the overall scheme of things. All one has to do is take a look around to realize this. If the gerbils have to take a victory lap to feel good about them selves, so be it.

Thick skin here and not losing any sleep over the howling.
Burner02 Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 7:04 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Bruner is like a kid who keeps finding gold in his sand box.
Not knowing there are lots of neighborhood cat that play there too.....



Sand traps and golf balls, not your breath mints.
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 10:04 AM EST
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Victor called me an idiot once... I never got over it... Sad
Brewha Offline
#40 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 10:40 AM EST
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Poor Drafter.....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#41 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 10:44 AM EST
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I accused Paul of being Victor once... I don't think either of them are over it...
victor809 Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 11:23 AM EST
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Don't be an idiot drafter... I've called you an idiot way more than just once.
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 11:31 AM EST
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true... true... Mellow
banderl Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 11:59 AM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Macs, you are very correct in that karma has away of arriving on scene when least expected. Being ridiculed on a cigar forum is not a big deal in the overall scheme of things. All one has to do is take a look around to realize this. If the gerbils have to take a victory lap to feel good about them selves, so be it.

Thick skin here and not losing any sleep over the howling.



Again, hung up on the gerbils, Richard Gere must have had quite an influence on you.
Burner02 Offline
#45 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 3:36 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Again, hung up on the gerbils, Richard Gere must have had quite an influence on you.



Hate to state the obvious but you are the one that continues to bring up Richard Gere. Actually, you seem to be infatuated with the fellow.
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 3:42 PM EST
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I heard Bandy is Richard Gere... Mellow
banderl Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 3:44 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Hate to state the obvious but you are the one that continues to bring up Richard Gere. Actually, you seem to be infatuated with the fellow.



You keep fantasizing about gerbils.
banderl Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 3:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Bandy is Richard Gere... Mellow



Some people in the Picture forum are saying that you're a Mexican.
Legal or illegal has yet to be determined.
Burner02 Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 4:19 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Bandy is Richard Gere... Mellow




They could be one.
banderl Offline
#50 Posted: Tue, Oct 25 2016, 4:30 PM EST
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Burner needs to come up with a thread to top this piece of ****.
I'm sure that if he really applies himself, that he'll succeed.
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