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Burner02 Offline
#51 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Meh. There has never been any evidence of anything more than the couple emails identified by comey. Your conviction that she is a morally bankrupt person is simply not based on any actual evidence, just accusations. And it has caused you to support trump who has shown just as much, if not more, moral bankruptcy... because he's willing to scream lying hillary a lot and that makes you feel good. ...

It's fine. This insanity has gotten us trump. Whee.



A couple?

LMAO
ZRX1200 Offline
#52 Posted:
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The same commission that ignored all of the defenses presented evidence to counter the chargers......yes
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Just because they didn't get the verdict you want doesn't mean they ignored information you think is important. Doesn't mean the information was even important...
banderl Offline
#54 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The same commission that ignored all of the defenses presented evidence to counter the chargers......yes



Well, somebody else decided to indict him.
Covfireman Offline
#55 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Meh. There has never been any evidence of anything more than the couple emails identified by comey. Your conviction that she is a morally bankrupt person is simply not based on any actual evidence, just accusations. And it has caused you to support trump who has shown just as much, if not more, moral bankruptcy... because he's willing to scream lying hillary a lot and that makes you feel good. ...

It's fine. This insanity has gotten us trump. Whee.





I don't support trump .


Her being able to escape conviction doesn't negate her intent to constantly deceive the public . I find that morally bankrupt. I actually agree with most of her stated platforms but could never trust her to carry through with them . . .

The couple of emails are enough . If you can't admit she lied . That's the problem . Why does what trump did or does make her coruption less relevant? It's ignoring things like this from both parties that got us trump .



She lost because of who she was as a person .

I had to go with the Johnson allepo be damned .
victor809 Offline
#56 Posted:
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Cov ... in your deep love, desire and admiration for trump I think you're missing a point.

I said she lied. But when you're going to give someone a nickname "lying x" that implies they lie more, or in a more significant manner, than the other comparables including yourself (yourself being the most divisive president elect ever).... I have not seen any evidence that this is true. It doesn't make her great. But it leaves the taste of manipulation and demagoguery in my mouth every time I hear it repeated over and over from all you people who adore trump.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#57 Posted:
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^spoken like a true closeted hillary lover...
victor809 Offline
#58 Posted:
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... we'll played ...
Covfireman Offline
#59 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Cov ... in your deep love, desire and admiration for trump I think you're missing a point.

I said she lied. But when you're going to give someone a nickname "lying x" that implies they lie more, or in a more significant manner, than the other comparables including yourself (yourself being the most divisive president elect ever).... I have not seen any evidence that this is true. It doesn't make her great. But it leaves the taste of manipulation and demagoguery in my mouth every time I hear it repeated over and over from all you people who adore trump.



I guess we disagree over the significance of human life . Hilarys lies and deceit killed 4 people . I find that signifanct, her lies endangered military and intelligence personal. Sounds significant to me . Her ignoring a subpoena and destroying evidence may have endangered more or lost us the chance to gain intelligence because no one can know what if any classified information she may have sent .

Once again you omit facts in your arguments to make it suit your narrative. I don't adore trump he's probably the 3 worst choice we could have ended up in this cycle .


Lying Hilary being the worst, Cruz next to worst ,then trump . However I am willing to see how he does . Lol so far he "draining the swamp " and refilling it with water that's diseased and stagnant recycled from the regan era that will put this country in another recession like we've never saw .



Why do you hate the truth ?
victor809 Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
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Man... you can't stop adoring trump even for a second huh....
(You'll figure out I'm giving you crap on this eventually)

So. How exactly did a lie of hers kill 4 people? Be specific. What did she say, what was the truth (with some evidence of the truth to show you know what it really is) and how does the difference between the lie and the truth kill the 4 people.

To be fair, I don't apply much significance to human life.. you did get that correct .
Burner02 Offline
#61 Posted:
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"What difference does it make".
Covfireman Offline
#62 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Man... you can't stop adoring trump even for a second huh....
(You'll figure out I'm giving you crap on this eventually)

So. How exactly did a lie of hers kill 4 people? Be specific. What did she say, what was the truth (with some evidence of the truth to show you know what it really is) and how does the difference between the lie and the truth kill the 4 people.

To be fair, I don't apply much significance to human life.. you did get that correct .



"The crux of it is that during and well after the chaos of the attacks on the State Department's outpost and nearby CIA annex in Benghazi, Clinton and the Obama administration promoted a false narrative for public consumption: that the violence came from a spontaneous outburst of mob anger. Although Clinton confided to her daughter, Chelsea, in an email that night that an al-Qaida faction was responsible, for two weeks she let fester the story that mob action, not a planned assault her department might have anticipated, killed her employees." *

Ambassador Stevens journal showed he requested additional security .Unfortunately he can't be questioned he's dead ( I know you don't care ) . She said there were no requests for security . Emails from Amador Stevens confirm there were . They needed the security as evidenced by their ultimate death .

Regretfully I can only reference what's been published about Ambassador.


Ryan said: "Repeated requests for additional security in Benghazi were routinely denied" by Hillary "Clinton's State Department."

Ryan’s claim avoids trouble by focusing on the State Department, then led by Clinton, rather than on Clinton herself. It’s well documented that the department didn’t honor requests for more security prior to the 2012 attacks that killed four Americans.

We rate Ryan’s statement True.**


* Chicago Tribune

** politifacts Ryan said: "Repeated requests for additional security in Benghazi were routinely denied" by Hillary "Clinton's State Department."

Ryan’s claim avoids trouble by focusing on the State Department, then led by Clinton, rather than on Clinton herself.

Quit calling me a trump supporter I almost throw up when I even read it .

victor809 Offline
#63 Posted:
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... um... the lie you are accusing her of (if we want to call it that) was after the attack. Did the lie go back in time and get 4 people killed?

I just can't believe you love and adore trump so much it makes you queasy... that's true puppy love.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted:
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To be clear, your accusation is that her refusal to provide additional security to an area got people killed. This has nothing to do with lying. This is a simple resource decision. We don't know how you or I would have made that decision. It's only in hindsight that we're able to say "hey, she should have put more people there"... for all you or I know we may have made the same decision given the same resource restrictions and requirements.

And this is even assuming she saw any of these requests and they weren't simply handled by other officials...

It's easy for the Republicans or trump or anyone else who doesn't like her to blame it on her lies because that gives the crowds and easy moral superiority stance. Everyone can say "I would never lie and get people killed! " and they can feel good about themselves and pretend they're in the right when they call her lying hillary. But they're just being manipulated. The real cause of loss of life was probably bureaucratic decision making... x number or resources and y number of requirements. But no one is bothering to ask that question. They don't really want to know.
tailgater Offline
#65 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
To be clear, your accusation is that her refusal to provide additional security to an area got people killed. This has nothing to do with lying. This is a simple resource decision. We don't know how you or I would have made that decision. It's only in hindsight that we're able to say "hey, she should have put more people there"... for all you or I know we may have made the same decision given the same resource restrictions and requirements.

And this is even assuming she saw any of these requests and they weren't simply handled by other officials...

It's easy for the Republicans or trump or anyone else who doesn't like her to blame it on her lies because that gives the crowds and easy moral superiority stance. Everyone can say "I would never lie and get people killed! " and they can feel good about themselves and pretend they're in the right when they call her lying hillary. But they're just being manipulated. The real cause of loss of life was probably bureaucratic decision making... x number or resources and y number of requirements. But no one is bothering to ask that question. They don't really want to know.


LOL!
I never knew you had it so hard for the Hilldog.

You're correct about the lies. Hillary only lied AFTER the deaths. Prior to that it was simply incompetence.
If it wasn't, she wouldn't have lied.
Sound policy can sometimes lead to mistakes. Hillary didn't own up to that. She simply denied it.
So it was a lie. Or incompetence. Or both.

But you go on with your conspiracy dreams in hopes that hillary reads these boards and generates a crooked smile for our favorite sh*t stirrer.
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted:
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http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/11/261600-hillary-clinton-lies-top/

Think
teedubbya Offline
#67 Posted:
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Hill dog is thankfully no longer an issue.
teedubbya Offline
#68 Posted:
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Silver lining.
mikey1597 Offline
#69 Posted:
Joined: 05-18-2007
Posts: 14,162
teedubbya wrote:
Hill dog is thankfully no longer an issue.



or is she,,,,, no telling what her and Tricky Willy are up to. Remember, it was her turn.
Brewha Offline
#70 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,147
victor809 wrote:
Cov ... in your deep love, desire and admiration for trump I think you're missing a point.

I said she lied. But when you're going to give someone a nickname "lying x"that implies they lie more, or in a more significant manner, than the other comparables including yourself (yourself being the most divisive president elect ever).... I have not seen any evidence that this is true. It doesn't make her great. But it leaves the taste of manipulation and demagoguery in my mouth every time I hear it repeated over and over from all you people who adore trump.



So.... You're saying X is a lyer?
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted:
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Well... he did claim once that he could see his own willie...
Brewha Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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He might have meant with a mirror - not a direct line of sight......


"Lying X"......

This could explain much....Think
ZRX1200 Offline
#73 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Sounds like a swell guy:
Among the commission's findings:

Day instructed his staff members to embark on a "discriminatory plan" by telling people that they would have to check the judge's schedule before he could perform a wedding. The judge then allegedly told his staff to investigate if the couples were gay. If so, staff members were to tell the couple that the judge was "unavailable" on the requested day and to call another judge, the commission said.
Day included a portrait of Adolf Hitler in a "Hall of Heroes" artwork display he erected in the Marion County Courthouse. When then-Presiding Judge Jamese Rhoades told him to take it down, he told her, "You don't want to go there because some very influential people in this town want it up," the commission wrote. Rhoades viewed that as "a veiled political threat," the commission said.
After Day's son was hurt during a Chemeketa Community College soccer game in 2012, Day shoved "his judicial business card at a soccer referee" to intimidate the referee because Day was mad at him for a call he'd made before his son's injury.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/11/oregon_judge_vance_day_indicte.html



Judge Vance has never preformed a wedding, and was never asked to preform a wedding. He was asked how he would feel if asked and said he wouldn't. The Hitler picture is part of many pieces of WW2 memorabilia, he VOLUNTEERS his time and helps veterans. But yeah, getting in an argument at a soccer game is a big deal. He's living in a 5th wheel now fighting this......and your dumbass feels sorry for Mcabe.
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted:
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I don’t feel sore for either of them but find both of their circumstances highly unusual.
banderl Offline
#75 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Judge Vance has never preformed a wedding, and was never asked to preform a wedding. He was asked how he would feel if asked and said he wouldn't. The Hitler picture is part of many pieces of WW2 memorabilia, he VOLUNTEERS his time and helps veterans. But yeah, getting in an argument at a soccer game is a big deal. He's living in a 5th wheel now fighting this......and your dumbass feels sorry for Mcabe.



Good for him.
Speyside Offline
#76 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
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X can see his Willy, with the use of strategically placed mirrors.
banderl Offline
#77 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Judge Vance has never preformed a wedding, and was never asked to preform a wedding. He was asked how he would feel if asked and said he wouldn't. The Hitler picture is part of many pieces of WW2 memorabilia, he VOLUNTEERS his time and helps veterans. But yeah, getting in an argument at a soccer game is a big deal. He's living in a 5th wheel now fighting this......and your dumbass feels sorry for Mcabe.



Don't worry about this piece of human trash, Z, I'm sure that he'll land on his feet with the orange fucktard's admin.
Just put in the call for him.
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