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teedubbya Offline
#51 Posted:
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I think hillarys server was stupid, arrogant and typical Clinton bs. I don't find it to be as big of deal as some in here but it's an arguable point.

I don't think that's connected to the Russians. Maybe so, but I don't think that's where the breach was. If so shame on her but that doesn't excuse the Russians.

Z I'm with you and am sick of the politics of controlling the narrative. It an excuse by both sides.

To argue (not saying you are) not to look in to it because someone wants this or that is silly.

Collect the facts and act accordingly. Anytime you are advocating against collecting the facts you are on thin ice. D or R.

And at some point when the facts are on the table it's time to move on. I understand the argument about when that is but don't think we are close to that here.
teedubbya Offline
#52 Posted:
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And to reiterate I don't think honey boo boo did anything wrong even if the Russians did.

It is weird the overnight Russia love sprouting at the moment though. Particularly given their relationship to Iran.
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted:
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it's funny to watch... Russia is bad cause they do business with Iran but Boeing makes a 16 billion deal with Iran and it's ok... Trump takes a phone call from Taiwan and it's bad but Obama sells Taiwan a billion dollars in small arms but it's ok... which do you think pissed off China more... Think
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted:
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I've never understood why Iran or Russia have to be our enemy forever. But some in here have spun very quickly in the last month or two.
ZRX1200 Offline
#55 Posted:
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Maybe there's just people who aren't as eager as Hilldog to go to war with them over propoganda.
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted:
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She's not very good at the war stuff... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I've never understood why Iran or Russia have to be our enemy forever. But some in here have spun very quickly in the last month or two.




I'm just hoping for a little respect from them... the whole world laughing at Obama was starting to piss a brother off... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#58 Posted:
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I've not talked to enough people around the world to know...
DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted:
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I read about them on the internets... I'd like to think Iran won't be harassing our sailors and stuff but we'll see... Trump may be forced to draw a red line someday.. Mellow
banderl Offline
#60 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
ok, but looking into Hillary's illegal private server was bad tho..?? that was the source of all the leaked e-mails... but we should look into it now..?? Think



That's not the case at all.
What emails were leaked from her server?
Try to be honest.
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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all the leaked e-mails came from her server... directly from her server or from one of her contacts doesn't really matter at this point... if the server didn't exist there wouldn't have been an investigation and nobody would have leaked anything... she brought this all on herself.... Mellow
banderl Offline
#62 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
all the leaked e-mails came from her server... directly from her server or from one of her contacts doesn't really matter at this point... if the server didn't exist there wouldn't have been an investigation and nobody would have leaked anything... she brought this all on herself.... Mellow



None of the emails leaked were from her server. Her server wasn't even operational when the DNC and Podesta emails were leaked.
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted:
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Leaked or found or released by the FBI... AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE..!! Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted:
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fact is tho this investigation wouldn't be happening if Hillary had been elected.... (which she wasn't ya know).... Mellow
banderl Offline
#65 Posted:
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Keep lying to yourself.
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted:
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I'm pretty certain Hillary will never be president... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#67 Posted:
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So your talking point is going back to "it Obama's fault"?
DrafterX Offline
#68 Posted:
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well, we could go there I guess.... he didn't seem too concerned about the leaks from Hillary's server when he thought she was gonna win... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#69 Posted:
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I hear he caused Trump to flip flop on going after Hillary......
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted:
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I heard it wasn't his decision yet... FBI is still looking into the Pay to Play Foundation... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#71 Posted:
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Oh, Well he explained that he gets to change his mind all he wants. So keep that in your back pocket when the Dems say he isn't fulfilling his campaign promises - because he said he didn't make any. He just floated some ideas, like the wall and stuff.

He chucked a bit about some voters being so stupid as to think he was making promises - and that they deserve what they get.
banderl Offline
#72 Posted:
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Poor stupid voters!
tailgater Offline
#73 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Poor stupid voters!


The majority of them?
banderl Offline
#74 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
The majority of them?

No
Speyside Offline
#75 Posted:
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Ummmm, the majority voted for Hillary.
banderl Offline
#76 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Ummmm, the majority voted for Hillary.



Not only her.
Abrignac Offline
#77 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Not only her.



The election is over. Are we going to have to listen to you p1ss and moan until Trump's Presidency ends?
DrafterX Offline
#78 Posted:
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Democrats are still licking their wounds, their supporters are still shell shocked over President-elect Donald Trump’s upset win over Clinton, and they keep peddling the myth that Clinton won the majority of the popular vote. They use this to undercut the notion that Trump has a mandate. Enter Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) (via The Hill):

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) blasted Donald Trump on Thursday, saying the president-elect doesn't have a mandate for his "politics of hate and division."
"I think most people conclude that the fact that he lost the popular vote is so disturbing to the president-elect because he wants to claim a mandate, but he cannot claim a mandate because a majority of Americans voted against him," Merkley said.
Right now, Clinton leads Trump 48/46 in the popular vote. Is that a majority? No, it’s a plurality. Clinton didn’t win the majority of the popular vote, and the majority of Americans didn’t vote for her. The majority did think she was a liar, dishonest, and untrustworthy, which probably explains why she wasn’t able to break through with voters and energize them in the same manner as the president-elect. Moreover, the popular vote isn’t how we decide who is president. As sitting lawmakers, I would’ve hoped they would know that it’s the Electoral College, a system in which candidates must wage a national campaign to win the electors from each respective state. If it were decided by popular vote, the snobby, insufferable bastions of progressivism on the Left Coast and the liberal Northeast would be the only places where candidates would campaign. That’s not how you keep a country together. Second, Trump did win a majority…of the states. The GOP retained control of Congress, has over 4,100 lawmakers elected into state and local legislatures (the most in the party’s history), has control of 33 governorships; and has control of 69/99 state legislatures. In 25 states, it’s a unified Republican state government. We’re the dominant political force in the country. Democrats are now reduced to their coastal and urban strongholds. I think we have a mandate…in the areas that matter when gauging who won an election.

Guy made mince meat of the other talking point, which is that a majority of Americans voted for Democrats in the Senate elections. Again, not really indicative of a national outcry a) only one-third of the seats were up; b) some of these contests were even competitive in deep-blue states; and c) there were no Republicans running in uber-progressive California, which drove up the margins for Clinton and Democrats in these Senate contests. A majority did vote for Republicans in the House elections. The Left can learn something from Republicans after our defeat in 2012. We accepted defeat and began a long journey to winning back Congress and now the presidency. We didn’t cherry-pick the results en masse to make ourselves feel better because you can’t polish a turd. Romney lost. Clinton lost. The only difference is that the GOP has healthier political apparatuses in the areas that decided the last election. Democrats do not. In fact, they’ve been wiped out in working class America; out of 490 counties that dot Appalachia, Clinton only won 21 of them. Maybe it’s time for Democrats to say something that they’ve been avoiding to do: admit that Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate.

Now that she’s gone, Joe Biden seems to be the only heavyweight left who could mount a national campaign in which he’ll be approaching 78 years of age. That’s how you know you’re in trouble. Democrats you lost. Accept it and move on. This quest to find reasons to make defeat feel better is only prolonging your anguish and it’s getting pathetic.

Film at 11.... Mellow





and on that note I'll leave it alone... getting bored.. Trump is your President.. get used to it.... Mellow
tonygraz Offline
#79 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
The election is over. Are we going to have to listen to you p1ss and moan until Trump's Presidency ends?


You mean like you pissed and moaned, lied and made racist comments for the last eight years
tonygraz Offline
#80 Posted:
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I heard that Trump had a dedicated server to a Russian bank, so maybe he's getting his intel from the KGB thru that to make America great again.
tailgater Offline
#81 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
You mean like you pissed and moaned, lied and made racist comments for the last eight years


Why do pedophiles always use the race card?





banderl Offline
#82 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
The election is over. Are we going to have to listen to you p1ss and moan until Trump's Presidency ends?



Absolutely not.
You don't have to listen to anything.
Why don't you have a big cup of STFU and ignore my posts if you don't want to read them.
FYI, the past eight years have been filled with you and your ilk pissing and moaning about everything under the sun about the Dems.
Enjoy the payback.
ZRX1200 Offline
#83 Posted:
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You didn't ignore our posts and STFU.......Typical democrat, do a's I say not as I do.
cacman Offline
#84 Posted:
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It's all the Russians fault!

Ignore all the corruption exposed about the DNC and instead worry about blaming Putin.

Guess the Clintons should have sold more plutonium to Russia to gain more favor.

ZRX1200 Offline
#85 Posted:
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Julian Assange says it was a DNC staffer not the Russians.

So demoats will ignore that, and teedubya won't blame the DNC for the leak like he does a general.
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted:
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If that's the case sure I would. Let's get the facts and lay it out. If there is no Russian involvement let's get that out there too. Not wanting to investigate because you think you know the truth and it meets your needs is dumb. So is investigating something over and over because it doesn't get the results you want.

As for assange there are many reasons to not simply take is word for it.

As for the general, it has nothing to do with Hillary. He was wrong and to me it's disqualifying.
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted:
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I bet he at least admitted he did somethin wrong and didn't try to cover it up... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#88 Posted:
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Maybe. It's a stand alone situation. If it's cool with you let's get on with the show. It's not with me given what I know but I'd like to learn more.
DrafterX Offline
#89 Posted:
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I heard the CIA made it all up anyways... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#90 Posted:
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Yea. They are a tool of the Dems. That's what ex-CIA director bush said.....
banderl Offline
#91 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You didn't ignore our posts and STFU.......Typical democrat, do a's I say not as I do.



Show me where I asked you to quit bitchin and crying.
Your apology is under review for acceptance.
gummy jones Offline
#92 Posted:
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comey and putin conspired to make hilary clinton a terrible person
combine that with the racist dummies that voted for trump

perfect storm
Brewha Offline
#93 Posted:
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I'm afraid the storm is only beginning.


I do find it worrisome that so many people, intelligent people even, put aside every issue in the election because of their perception of character. Trump is well known as the portrait of the unapologetic buisness man that narrowly skirts the law and screws anyone he can - with pride. Clinton has decades in politics, and dispite the "common knowledge" has a relatively clean record for a politician. No bankruptcies or fraud suits - and yet, she is the bad guy.
ZRX1200 Offline
#94 Posted:
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Dead men tell no tales.
Quilp Offline
#95 Posted:
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Or camping stories.
Brewha Offline
#96 Posted:
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"It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious."

- Oscar Wilde
Abrignac Offline
#97 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
Absolutely not.
You don't have to listen to anything.
Why don't you have a big cup of STFU and ignore my posts if you don't want to read them.
FYI, the past eight years have been filled with you and your ilk pissing and moaning about everything under the sun about the Dems.
Enjoy the payback.


Ignore your posts??? Never, everyone needs a good laugh.

BTW, I've only been pissing and moaning here for 4 years. So as usual you're wrong.
Abrignac Offline
#98 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
You mean like you pissed and moaned, lied and made racist comments for the last eight years


Another unsubstantiated alt-left conspiracy theory. I haven't been here but 4 years. How do you know you know if I was pissing and moaning or ****ting and groaning before 2/2012?
tonygraz Offline
#99 Posted:
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I would say it was a good guess- particularly the ****ting part.
DrafterX Offline
#100 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
and dispite the "common knowledge" has a relatively clean record for a politician. No bankruptcies or fraud suits - and yet, she is the bad guy.



Mellow
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