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cacman Offline
#1 Posted:
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Chicago torture: Facebook Live video leads to 4 arrests
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/04/us/chicago-facebook-live-beating/index.html

(CNN)A young woman who broadcast the beating and racial taunting of a man on Facebook Live has been arrested with three others in connection with the gruesome attack, Chicago police said Wednesday.

The disturbing 30-minute video shows a man tied up and his mouth covered, cowering in the corner of a room. His attackers laugh and shout "f*ck Donald Trump" and "f*ck white people" as they kick and punch him.

The video shows someone cutting into his scalp with a knife, leaving a visibly bald patch.

Police said the victim is an 18-year-old with special needs. Officers found the disoriented young man wandering a Chicago street "in crisis" Tuesday afternoon.

He was so traumatized that it took most of the night for him to calm down so he was able to talk to police, Capt. Steven Sesso said.

The suspects, two men and two women, all 18, are in custody awaiting formal charges, which are expected to be filed Thursday.

Hate crime charges under consideration
The victim knew at least one of his accused attackers from school, Cmdr. Kevin Duffin said. Though he may have voluntarily gotten into a van with the group, police are considering kidnapping charges.

Because the victim is white and the people in the video are black, police also are investigating whether hate crime charges are appropriate, Duffin said.

"Although they are adults, they're 18. Kids make stupid decisions -- I shouldn't call them kids; they're legally adults, but they're young adults, and they make stupid decisions," Duffin said.

"That certainly will be part of whether or not ... we seek a hate crime, to determine whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving."

762 murders in 12 months: Chicago's deadly 2016

It's possible the racially charged statements were little more than people "ranting about something they think might make a headline," Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said.

He said he did not believe the attack was politically motivated.

"It's sickening," he said. "It makes you wonder what would make individuals treat somebody like that."

Chicago police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi emphasized Thursday that the investigation has so far not revealed a racial or political motive.

The incident comes as Chicago draws intense scrutiny for a grim milestone: 762 homicides in 2016. Johnson commended the patrol officers for attending to the victim in distress and following the case through. "You hear the narrative that police are backing down and not doing their jobs; this is a perfect example of them doing their jobs," he said.

Video pulled from Facebook
Facebook confirmed that it pulled the original video from the suspect's Facebook profile.

"We do not allow people to celebrate or glorify crimes on Facebook and have removed the original video for this reason. In many instances, though, when people share this type of content, they are doing so to condemn violence or raise awareness about it. In that case, the video would be allowed."

How Facebook Live is changing our world -- is that a good thing?

According to its community standards, the company removes content, disables accounts and works with law enforcement in cases of a genuine risk of physical harm or direct threats to public safety.

Facebook users also can report offensive material to staff dedicated to responding to such reports. If a live stream starts blowing up, staffers monitor it for possible violations and interrupt it if need be.

The timeline
The victim's parents reported him missing Monday, telling police they had not heard from their son since dropping him off Saturday at a McDonald's in the Chicago suburb of Streamwood.

Police in Streamwood said that after the man was reported missing, his parents began getting text messages from someone "claiming to be holding him captive."

Officers investigating the texts "discovered a Facebook video depicting (the man) being verbally and physically abused." It's unclear what alerted the police to check Facebook.

Soon after they discovered the video, Streamwood investigators said they were contacted by Chicago police, saying they had found the missing man.

On Tuesday Chicago officers responded to a battery call at a residence in the area where the victim had been found. There were signs of a struggle and property damage, police said. Police have not identified the person who made the call.
After viewing the Facebook video, they determined the victim was the man found on the street -- and the people arrested were involved, police said.

Police said the victim might have been with the suspects for at least 24 hours.


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Where's the outrage? Where's the protests and burning of businesses and vehicles.
Imagine the response if the roles where reversed?
Mr. Jones Offline
#2 Posted:
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Uhhhhhhhh,

Where's the EVIDENCE?

Duuuuuuuuuhhh,

Kinda' delivered on a "$ILVER PLATTER"
don'tcha thinks'???

These damn MILLENNIAL's of any race have
NO SHAME, NO BRAINS, NO CONSCIENCE...
I'M GUESSING THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AN
X-BOX GAME THEY COULD RESET TO ZERO?

Gotta' love the "HATE CRIME" angle when
It's a CAUCASIAN....ON THE RECIEVING END.
teedubbya Offline
#3 Posted:
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Why is the mainstream media ignoring this?
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted:
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Well the South side of Chicago..
Is the baddest part of town...
And if you go down there..
You better just beware..
Of a man named Leroy Brown..... Whistle
Mr. Jones Offline
#5 Posted:
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I saw it on the news yesterday....

Not sure if it was NBC local
OR NBC NIGHTLY NEWS ( with " RALPHIE"
from "CHRISTMAS STORY" MY nickname for
Lester Holtz - who is a GREAT GUY)
cacman Offline
#6 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Why is the mainstream media ignoring this?

Because they are too interested in blaming the Russians for the election even though it's been said many times there is no evidence they tampered with the election. It's the liberal media telling you what they want you to hear, not the truth. Just like the excuses quoted in the article above explaining these kids actions. It's freakin' deplorable!
dstieger Offline
#7 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Why is the mainstream media ignoring this?



Yeah!...good thing we got that fringe CNN element to rely on....


but, then again.....IDK...I saw it on google news...in fact, it ran above: "New Guidelines Tell Parents When To Introduce Babies To Peanut Products"
Mr. Jones Offline
#8 Posted:
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Call in ...

THE DUDE !!!!
He drinks CAUCASIANS

AND

SAM ELLIOT
he has a deep voice and pension for western
Justice...
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Loretta Lynchmob will file charges just you wait......
Speyside Offline
#10 Posted:
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This is sickening. Anyone who thinks that being 18 is a mitigating circumstance is talking out of their azz. Anyone who questions if this is a hate crime or not is a bigot.
dstieger Offline
#11 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
This is sickening. Anyone who thinks that being 18 is a mitigating circumstance is talking out of their azz. Anyone who questions if this is a hate crime or not is a bigot.


I tend to question whether anything is a hate crime. Never much cared for or about the designation. If someone commits a crime, it doesn't matter to me how much/whether hate affected motivation
dstieger Offline
#12 Posted:
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so, I suppose I'm a bigot....I try real hard not to be, but it turns out that I got some bias that I have to suppress every now and again
Stinkdyr Offline
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End Welfare Breeding.....think about it.

fog
Mr. Jones Offline
#14 Posted:
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Nowwww...

Come'on guys....

WE ALL KNOW that "the mentally challenged white
teenagers" are to blame fer' keepin' all the minorities down...

at least that's what the "teen-adults" recorded on expensive 🍎 I-phones thought...

PROLLY thought he got a bigger S.S. CHECK than
them each month...it PISSED them off...
Speyside Offline
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Dave, if one does not believe that there should be laws covering hate crimes that is one thing. But to say this was not a hate crime by definition is another thing.

Hate crime- crime motivated br racial, sexual, or other prejudice, typically involving violence.

Perhaps I should have said the people speaking in the article are bigots.

When someone tortures a mentally challenged white man and says F**k white people, by definition this is a hate crime.
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted:
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the mentally challenged white man was prolly acting stupidly... Mellow
dstieger Offline
#17 Posted:
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I wasn't really disagreeing with you, spey. I just really dislike the use of 'hate crime' as a legal 'thing'....hate it, evenHerfing
ZRX1200 Offline
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Under current law this should be a hate crime.

I don't think hate crimes should exist, it's a reflection of insufficient sentencing laws.

Chicago PD said race wasn't a motive LOL deadfishRahm is a great leader. Still holding my breath for at least a STATEMENT from DOJ.
DrafterX Offline
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Hill was charged with aggravated kidnapping, hate crime, aggravated unlawful restraint, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, robbery, residential burglary; Cooper was charged with aggravated kidnapping, hate crime, aggravated unlawful restraint, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and residential burglary; Brittany Covington was charged with aggravated kidnapping, hate crime, aggravated unlawful restraint, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and residential burglary; Tanishia Covington was charged with aggravated kidnapping, hate crime, aggravated unlawful restraint and aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.


Film at 11... Think
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted:
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But ya gotta figure a plea bargain will be offered... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
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I wonder who they thought would be impressed by this..?? Did they think they were doing someone a favor..?? Think
ZRX1200 Offline
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http://tribunist.com/politics/cnn-panelist-blames-two-day-torture-of-special-needs-teen-on-president-elect-trump-video/?utm_source=SR

Clip at the bottom shows you SJWs.
victor809 Offline
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At what point in the history of our country did someone decide that identifying someone as striving for social justice is an insult?

I think that says more about this than anything.
TMCTLT Offline
#24 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh,

Where's the EVIDENCE?

Duuuuuuuuuhhh,

Kinda' delivered on a "$ILVER PLATTER"
don'tcha thinks'???

These damn MILLENNIAL's of any race have
NO SHAME, NO BRAINS, NO CONSCIENCE...
I'M GUESSING THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AN
X-BOX GAME THEY COULD RESET TO ZERO?

Gotta' love the "HATE CRIME" angle when
It's a CAUCASIAN....ON THE RECIEVING END.




Obummers Amerika!!!! Where a hate crime is only a hate crime if it's committed by a white male.....
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted:
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Posts: 98,535
victor809 wrote:
At what point in the history of our country did someone decide that identifying someone as striving for social justice is an insult?

I think that says more about this than anything.


say that again.. I don't think I heard that right.... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted:
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Z is using the term which is intended to be insulting "sjw" which does not stand for single Jewish woman... social justice warrior.

At some point a group within our country decided that to call someone this is insulting. .. I think that use of the term as an insult is more telling than anything.
DrafterX Offline
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Thanks, I wondered what that stood for... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted:
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Keep repeating yourself I'm sure someone will agree.....

What something means literally and the people who champion it aren't exactly the same thing. There's a FB group that mocks SJWs, and actually champions what they should stand for.

Did you watch the clip, or did you just waste more oxygen to take the time to find a way to mock someone here in a manner you found cheeky?

See what I did there
victor809 Offline
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He'll no I didn't watch the clip. Not gonna link any video posted here. Simply don't trust you bastards.

My comment had nothing to do with the video... my comment was about the use of sjw as an insult. Seems odd to me. I think it says a lot to claim that's insulting.
ZRX1200 Offline
#30 Posted:
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You took it as an insult.

That's all on you buddy.

I said, and I quote......"Shows you SWJ's"

I think someone here once posted a thread about bias perception and projecting.....just can't remember who.
victor809 Offline
#31 Posted:
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Don't play coy z, it doesn't suit you. The entire point of labeling people as SJWs is to intend it as an insult..you even reference a FB group that mocks SJWs.

It is intended as an insult by the people who use the term. That's well established beyond this forum. I was simply pointing out that I fail to understand what mentality would be required to intend that as an insult, and suggested that the presence of groups of people who intentionally believe that the term sjw makes a good insult says a lot about our society these days..
Burner02 Offline
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Maybe we should check the who gives a s**t app.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#33 Posted:
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Whatch ya'll gots against southern Jehovah's witnesses?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#34 Posted:
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In all seriousness, i didn't know sjw was an insult... didn't even know the term until the day after the election when i decided to become a troll.... i thought sjw was a self applied term...
victor809 Offline
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Nah. It's intended to be insulting. I don't think the people identified as SJWs are self identifying.

Just one more thing in our society that's oddly indicative of a downward spiral. Probably started when "intellectual" became used as aneeded insult.
ZRX1200 Offline
#36 Posted:
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What a load of schit, SJW that are militant sure as he'll do self identify......which applies accurately and directly to exactly what I said about the people in the clip you refuse to watch. Language really isn't as difficult as you like to make it, but I guess gaming on to one thing and refusing to listen is kinda your thing when you get wound up.

Good day on here for you being you Victor.
rfenst Offline
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dstieger wrote:
I tend to question whether anything is a hate crime. Never much cared for or about the designation. If someone commits a crime, it doesn't matter to me how much/whether hate affected motivation


I agree.
Speyside Offline
#38 Posted:
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Even though hate crime is a law. To me it seems like double jeopardy legalized.

ZRX1200 Offline
#39 Posted:
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It's a load of crap is what it is. I agree
victor809 Offline
#40 Posted:
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Z... look up the term.


Then look up the word pejorative.
ZRX1200 Offline
#41 Posted:
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No, I refuse to look up anything you post.

Now I'm going to start a straw man argument and then throw baseless accusations around hoping to get someone so mad they make an ass of themselves.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXb7do9C-w
bgz Offline
#42 Posted:
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This jacked up video popped up after z's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlb9QwiI9E

Abrignac Offline
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bgz wrote:
This jacked up video popped up after z's...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlb9QwiI9E



You're wrong Bud. Dead wrong. This is what popped up after Z's video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxls1KnKCA4
MACS Offline
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I had to continue reading to find out what SJW meant. I didn't know.

I watched about 20 seconds of the clip until she started saying "We gotta find out what motivated them before we call it a hate crime". Um... why? Saying F*** white people, while they tortured a white man, wasn't enough of a clue?

If the roles were reversed, this would be blasted on every damn channel, non-stop, as a hate crime. And everyone on the planet who has a shred of honesty knows it.
victor809 Offline
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It has been on every news station. And it has been identified as a hate crime. Why pretend it isn't?
victor809 Offline
#46 Posted:
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*caveat. Every news station I looked at.
teedubbya Offline
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But the mainstram press is ignoring it and stuff! So is obama.


DrafterX Offline
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Thanks Obama..!! Mad
tonygraz Offline
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Typical racist outrage, but little or no empathy for 9 shot dead in a prayer meeting. The right wingers look hard for some incident (and some times even make chit up) and then portray it as the norm.
DrafterX Offline
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are you really wanting to trade tragedies..?? typical Democrat response... Not talking
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