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Trump's Press Conference
Abrignac Offline
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It starts in 19 minutes. who plans to watch it?
DrafterX Offline
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Prolly won't watch it but I'm sure I'll hear about it... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
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I DO...

AND ALREADY...
On NBC

CHUCK TODD IS 😢 CRYING LIKE A "YELLOW VITAMIN D&E& IRON DEFICIENT NEWBORN"

"RALPHIE"...AKA LESTER HOLTZ...IS FRETTING TOO..

THEY DAY THE RUSSIANS ARE "LAUGHING THEIR
AZZES OFF"...

BWUHAHAHAHAHA!!
dstieger Offline
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Imma let Don and Eric run the company and I told them they shouldn't talk to me about it......
Abrignac Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Imma let Don and Eric run the company and I told them they shouldn't talk to me about it......



What would be a good way to divest of those holdings in the time between the election and inauguration?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Give them to NY so they can finish a bike path and buy bitcoins.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Give them to NY so they can finish a bike path and buy bitcoins.

The internet's best post of today...
dstieger Offline
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I just checked...turns out I do NOT have JD/MBA degrees.....I don't know...but while he allowed his lawyer say it is too hard (interesting that he wouldn't admit that something is too hard for him...but that's another subject)......I found it very hard to digest his comments that he doesn't legally, nor constitutionally HAVE to do ANYTHING, but because so many have asked, he's just going to have Don and Eric run the companies and they won't talk to him about them....what a load
victor809 Offline
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Did y'all see the secret hand signal trump gave greenlighting Mr Jones?

Poor Mr Jones....
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Ya, i would've preferred he just come out and said, "I'm President and you can go f*ck yourself, I'll do what i want."
Abrignac Offline
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dstieger wrote:
I just checked...turns out I do NOT have JD/MBA degrees.....I don't know...but while he allowed his lawyer say it is too hard (interesting that he wouldn't admit that something is too hard for him...but that's another subject)......I found it very hard to digest his comments that he doesn't legally, nor constitutionally HAVE to do ANYTHING, but because so many have asked, he's just going to have Don and Eric run the companies and they won't talk to him about them....what a load



I get what you say Dave. I haven't researched the law he quotes. If in fact he's correct, then its a matter of Presidential prerogative much like what LBJ said when he allegedly pissed on a reporter's leg. We don't have to agree, but its up to him.
victor809 Offline
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Didn't he say he would do it during his campaign?....


...man... not even president and already breaking campaign promises.
tailgater Offline
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dstieger wrote:
I just checked...turns out I do NOT have JD/MBA degrees.....I don't know...but while he allowed his lawyer say it is too hard (interesting that he wouldn't admit that something is too hard for him...but that's another subject)......I found it very hard to digest his comments that he doesn't legally, nor constitutionally HAVE to do ANYTHING, but because so many have asked, he's just going to have Don and Eric run the companies and they won't talk to him about them....what a load


What would you like him to do?
opelmanta1900 Offline
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come out and said, "I'm President and you can go f*ck yourself, I'll do what i want."
dstieger Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
I get what you say Dave. I haven't researched the law he quotes. If in fact he's correct, then its a matter of Presidential prerogative much like what LBJ said when he allegedly pissed on a reporter's leg. We don't have to agree, but its up to him.


Yeah...I fully appreciate that there are probably laws or constitutional interpretations that allow him to do nothing....I just find his dismissive, almost condescending manner pretty distasteful. Same feeling I had when he mocked the reporter asking about tax returns.....the boorishness probably worked well for him as a business executive....as my Commander in Chief/President, I'm not impressed
Mr. Jones Offline
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# 9 VEEEEEK-tooooooore

You B.A.S.T.I.D. !!!! ;)

He gave the "VERBAL" months ago...
The problem is ....
Many...Many... things will happen ....
If that goes down...
and
( + MR. PENCE + OWES A "FRIEND AND I" ...from way way back)

It's called
REALLY
REALLY
GREAT
ESSURANCE...
#UNCLEBILL
#SPECTOR
#BENDER

I HAVE GATHERED OVER 30+ YEARS...
AND DECEMINATED to various sources and many
Locations ...to launch....

if *****ed with...in any matter at all...

That "they" don't want released...
( what I have is DOCUMENTED FACT...
not this new "fake news" phenomena)

I am a very smart guy...with BIG BALL'S.

^^^^ I'm thinking ...what you saw was the
CLASSIC EL DUCHE' hand signal ....
Which meant....

" BRING ME....MORE PASTA"
opelmanta1900 Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Yeah...I fully appreciate that there are probably laws or constitutional interpretations that allow him to do nothing....I just find his dismissive, almost condescending manner pretty distasteful. Same feeling I had when he mocked the reporter asking about tax returns.....the boorishness probably worked well for him as a business executive....as my Commander in Chief/President, I'm not impressed


Maybe impressing you isn't on his "first 100 days" list...
dstieger Offline
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perhaps not.....let's hope it's on the second 100 days list
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Didn't he say he would do it during his campaign?....


...man... not even president and already breaking campaign promises.



????

I don't recall him saying he would completely divest during the election. Maybe I missed that. Regardless it wouldn't matter to me either way. I can't believe anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of micro economics would a) believe it was that easy and 2) expect him to do so in a 2 1/2 month time frame.
dstieger Offline
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Would have been a good day to short pharma for a few hours
teedubbya Offline
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I don't really get the importance of the press conference anyway. Predictable questions and predictable answers. Trump chided hill dog for going so long with out them and they did the same in return.

eff it. Just go to work, do what you will and let the chips fall where they will. Then the next election cycle will sort through things.

For the record I don't think he has to completely divest and am not sure he really can given his company and best product IS his name. I also don't care if he hires his entire family if they are smart and do a good job.
delta1 Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Imma let Don and Eric run the company and I told them they shouldn't talk to me about it......


lol, that was my takeaway...
Abrignac Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Yeah...I fully appreciate that there are probably laws or constitutional interpretations that allow him to do nothing....I just find his dismissive, almost condescending manner pretty distasteful. Same feeling I had when he mocked the reporter asking about tax returns.....the boorishness probably worked well for him as a business executive....as my Commander in Chief/President, I'm not impressed



No disrespect intended, but I just don't get the obsession. He's not the first wealthy President. Nor will he be the first President to not completely walk away from his holdings.

We aren't talking about a few million in stocks and bonds. The man is the face of a multi-billion, multi-national, privately owned concern. Unlike holdings of publicly traded corporate stock positions you don't simply sell call your broker on Monday morning and tell him to liquidate your portfolio and wirefunds to the blind trust trustee by close of business.

Basically, he has a couple of options with some nuances. He can seek out a buyer to sell the entire Trump organization. That buyer will want an outside forensic audit. Perhaps someone here will see this post and save him the next 10 years looking for a suitable buyer and negotiating a sale price. Not to mention surely years of litigation regarding associated businesses attempting to get out of contracts due to the financial uncertainty.

Since it may take sometime to do the above, he could sell it piecemeal. Good luck with that. There will certainly be people who want the gems, not so much other divisions. The contracts related to those non-gems will then be litigated regarding fiduciary claims. Another decade long proposal.

At the end of the day, it's impossible to do this in a short time frame. It is naive to believe it can be done and nothing more than inflammatory to expect otherwise.
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[quote=Mr. Jones]

CHUCK TODD IS 😢 CRYING LIKE A "YELLOW VITAMIN D&E& IRON DEFICIENT NEWBORN"[quote]

OMG!! This is too funny!!
Mr. Jones Offline
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#22 delta 1

You forgot

" the deeeese...deeeeem ..and doooooose
Two vunder-KINDT's uhhh mines'...Tweedle dee and
Tweedle dumb will ahhhh, takes overs'...yea...that's right ...they bees'
Taken overs'....yaaaa seeees'???
I'm " FROGGY"...yea...dats' right...FROGGY!!!
The cartoon Frog with a cigar and mobster hat"
dstieger Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
No disrespect intended, but I just don't get the obsession.



Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....

DrafterX Offline
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I think it was ok for Pelosi to do that kinda stuff... must not be that big of deal.. Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I think it was ok for Pelosi to do that kinda stuff... must not be that big of deal.. Mellow



yea so we shouldn't pay any attention to trump because other people have done stuff and stuff hillary, obammy, blah blah blah
DrafterX Offline
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It used to be the norm.... I must not've gotten the memo... Mellow
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I thought his tax attorney did a very good job of explaining how they took many steps ( some not even necessary by law ) to satisfy those who are MORE concerned with " perception " so there's NO concern of Trump using the Office of POTUS to further his private interests.
Abrignac Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....




This was known before the election. He was elected. It's old news. Time to move forward. It's like boinking the fat chick then being pissed you did. It's a done deal.
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Abrignac wrote:
This was known before the election. I was elected. It's old news. Time to move forward. It's like boinking the fat chick then being pissed you did. It's a done deal.


I didn't count the characters, but I think that you've channeled TrumpTweet beautifully....
tailgater Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Long ways from an obsession.....but, I'm just as puzzled by those that dismiss the idea that there's a lot of potential for conflict of interest...or that any conflict of interest is of no consequence.

If he's in agreement with you about fiduciary responsibilities...even the tiniest bit...then every single decision he makes as chief executive can be viewed through that prism and questioned...

Was his approach to China on (trade, Taiwan, coral rocks, you name it....) influenced (at all) by holdings in China? or by debt held by Chinese banks? or....by some unknown real estate proposal????

Did the steel lobby throttle back on some noisy action because the companies they represent can expect some sort of sweetheart tax or trade deal down the road....or by an administration promise to threaten states or nations...or maybe a promise to use US Steel products in future Trump projects????

Unlikely? IDK...fact is, we won't ever know...but I do know that perception is every bit as important as reality....usually moreso....and controlling perception would be a lot easier if we thought we could understand that Trump or Trump Inc. isn't likely to benefit directly from his decisions....



So if a liberal majority PERCEIVE a conflict of interest then Trump is mandated to act?

Perception is not nearly as important as reality. And we'll be in a downward spiral until we realize this as a nation.
And this is especially true because of social media and fake news and web blogs and even Trumps Twitter account.
Don't ever let a majority opinion (ie public perception) dictate fact vs fiction.

teedubbya Offline
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tailgater wrote:
So if a liberal majority PERCEIVE a conflict of interest then Trump is mandated to act?

Perception is not nearly as important as reality. And we'll be in a downward spiral until we realize this as a nation.
And this is especially true because of social media and fake news and web blogs and even Trumps Twitter account.
Don't ever let a majority opinion (ie public perception) dictate fact vs fiction.




yup. way too much of it. it is actually scary. seems like 47% don't care one way, 47 don't care the other and 5-6% sort of want the truth.

Maybe I'm in here to much but I am convinced many in here have no interest in the truth.
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TW of course it doesn't matter because when you are rich you can do whatever you want.
frankj1 Offline
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Just ask Bernie Madoff
teedubbya Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Just ask Bernie Madoff



Is that the dude that invented fire?
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teedubbya wrote:
Is that the dude that invented fire?



No, that was Seymour Boutte. Never mind, he invented the mini-skirt.
delta1 Offline
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And wrote the book "My Life Under the Toilet."
teedubbya Offline
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I thought that was Moe Doody
ZRX1200 Offline
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Dave, here's my problem with this.

The majority of people upset by this are silent about the career public service has become at the federal level.

The Cheeto will be gone in either 4 or 8 years unless Mr Jones gets framed with a ghost gun by the ssg.
delta1 Offline
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dayum...I feel like we've all collectively boinked the fat chick...
Mr. Jones Offline
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Your
All
Bush
League
Puzzie
Metro'
Hurtins'
teedubbya Offline
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Before me jones I thought gas lighting was when you lit farts
ZRX1200 Offline
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He got green lit not gas lighted.

For what it's worth I caught bites of the presser, he mopped the floor with the CNN jackwagon. These 4 years are gonna be fun.
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Didn't he just refuse to let the guy speak? Or did I miss something? Doesn't sound like mopping the floor... sounds immature.
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Didn't he just refuse to let the guy speak? Or did I miss something? Doesn't sound like mopping the floor... sounds immature.
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Didn't he just refuse to let the guy speak? Or did I miss something? Doesn't sound like mopping the floor... sounds immature.


Actually he talked over him, told him his organization was fake news and refused to take a question from him. Hopefully, the Trump Whitehouse will similarly refuse to issue a press pass to anyone from CNN. Let them sit on the sidelines for the next four years. Maybe they will put their partisanship on a shelf and go back to broadcasting the news. If not, F'em.
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Is he gonna apply the same restrictions to all other partisan news organizations as well? Fox, brietbart etc? If not then he's essentially turning the press into a North Korean state run organization
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victor809 wrote:
Is he gonna apply the same restrictions to all other partisan news organizations as well? Fox, brietbart etc? If not then he's essentially turning the press into a North Korean state run organization


No need with Fox. They are Fair & Balanced.

d'oh! Noobs....
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