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Poll Question : President Trump, who else likes the sound of that? (Poll is closed)
Choice Votes Statistics
Yes. 25 64 %
No. 14 35 %
Total 39 100%

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President Trump, I like the sound of that, who else does?
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MACS Offline
#51 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 6:30 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
This forum's election is rigged, 14-7, as I'm pecking and hunting...didn't he lose by like 3 million votes?

Must be that mysterious Electoral College thingamajig, where if you live in a part of the country that doesn't have a lot of people (gotta be a reason for that) your vote is worth multiple times the votes of people in most populated areas...


First part - No, he actually won the election.

Second part - because I'd rather be around animals and nature than most people.
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 7:50 PM EST
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People suck.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#53 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 9:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
People suck.. Mellow

odd that you didn't say "screw people"
ya screw everything else ya freak! HA!
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#54 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 9:43 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
First part - No, he actually won the election.

Second part - because I'd rather be around animals and nature than most people.


First off; actually, he he lost the popular vote by about 3 million, or 2%, this is what Delta appears to be referring to .

Secondly; we all know about you, goats and sheep. No need to remind us, sheep shagger.
DrafterX Offline
#55 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 9:57 PM EST
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Have you looked at one of those red/blue election result maps..?? I understand the popular vote thing but clearly the country wanted Trump. .. Hillary lost btw. . Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#56 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 10:07 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Have you looked at one of those red/blue election result maps..?? I understand the popular vote thing but clearly the country wanted Trump. .. Hillary lost btw. . Mellow


You're smarter than that William. Those are electoral college maps, which is a winner take all votes for a zone system rather than an accurate reflection of the votes. I don't know what the 2016 breakdown is for electoral votes inside the states that went red or blue, but saying things like "clearly they wanted...." is just silly.
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 10:34 PM EST
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Hillary lost... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 10:48 PM EST
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I had no idea you were so in love with her Gerbil. . And that's ok.. but Trump is your President. . Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 11:30 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I had no idea you were so in love with her Gerbil. . And that's ok.. but Trump is your President. . Mellow

Please show me one comment I made actively supporting her, TCBYX.
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted: Sat, Jan 21 2017, 11:42 PM EST
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Go to bed... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#61 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 2:24 AM EST
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It can't always be majority rules. This is a republic not a democracy and the right of the minority must also be represented.
TMCTLT Offline
#62 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 8:17 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
You're smarter than that William. Those are electoral college maps, which is a winner take all votes for a zone system rather than an accurate reflection of the votes. I don't know what the 2016 breakdown is for electoral votes inside the states that went red or blue, but saying things like "clearly they wanted...." is just silly.





Your right Adam.....it Clearly came down to " Who They Didn't Want " and did we get lucky, you wouldn't have liked life under Hilldog....hell Bill certainly didn't anyway Whistle
itsawaldo Offline
#63 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 8:37 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
It can't always be majority rules. This is a republic not a democracy and the right of the minority must also be represented.


Yup
frankj1 Offline
#64 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 8:39 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
It can't always be majority rules. This is a republic not a democracy and the right of the minority must also be represented.

so simple, yet so hard to grasp for so many.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#65 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 9:32 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Your right Adam.....it Clearly came down to " Who They Didn't Want " and did we get lucky, you wouldn't have liked life under Hilldog....hell Bill certainly didn't anyway :-"



I wasn't aware that you and her husband were such good buddies that you spoke about these things.

As for who is good or bad and how they will be , I'll leave that argument to you and your groupthink. I only came here to correct a pair of mathematically challenged posters.
tailgater Offline
#66 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 10:11 AM EST
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
First off; actually, he he lost the popular vote by about 3 million, or 2%, this is what Delta appears to be referring to .
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That's like saying a losing football team should have won because they gained more yards.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#67 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 10:17 AM EST
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well sure you got me in checkmate, but I captured more of your pieces, so, you know...
MACS Offline
#68 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 10:24 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
That's like saying a losing football team should have won because they gained more yards.


opelmanta1900 wrote:
well sure you got me in checkmate, but I captured more of your pieces, so, you know...


Thank you. Those analogies summed up my point.

Hillary had better stats... but, yeah... scoreboard.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#69 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 10:28 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Thank you. Those analogies summed up my point.

Hillary had better stats... but, yeah... scoreboard.



Which I never denied. Your argument on that is with delta1.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
First off; actually, he he lost the popular vote by about 3 million, or 2%, this is what Delta appears to be referring to .
teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 12:38 PM EST
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Kind of weird. I never read a should have or anything like that from gerbil. Just fact.

He never said Hillary should have won yet was accused of being a supporter of hers.

He never said we were not or shouldn't be a republic. And was greeted with sports and chess analogies.

Forget the politics (which I beleive he was not addressing). I think he was merely looking at a set of data and discussing what you can accurately or not accurately state from it. Non emotional, non partisan.

Folks sure get entrenched.
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 12:42 PM EST
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And when someone makes a statement that is not supported pointing that out doesn't necessarily mean you disagree with them or are "on the other side"

It just means the data at that point doesn't support it. If you have some that does great. That makes for good discussion.

No back to how victor should be ignored because he disagrees and stuff which makes him a troll.
delta1 Offline
#72 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 12:49 PM EST
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Not disputing the election outcome, which followed the Founding Father's Constitutionally created Electoral Process. Mr. Trump is the President, after an election he said was rigged many times during the campaign, and often refused to say he would accept the result if his opponent won. Then he actually won. I understand the electoral college process, actually read why it was implemented...primarily in opposition to the original proposal to let Congress elect the President. Glad the Founding Fathers didn't do that...they understood the people may rise up against the elitist appointed ruler by an elitist body...

They decided to let the people vote, but to ensure the unwashed masses wouldn't elect an unsuitable person, the Founding Fathers compromised and decided to let the people vote, but not for the actual candidate of their choice. The people would vote for "electors" who were presumably smarter than the average joe. The FF decided to let members of Congress to instead, appoint the electors. (So MACS and Opelman, Hillary thanks you for voting for her...you contributed to the 3 million).

The sticking point was the less populated southern states wanted more electors, because if you counted slaves as people, they would have more people. And southern representatives knew their states, primarily agricultural, would never be as populated by actual people as some of the more urban northern states. At that time, slaves were not considered people by the very people who were arguing that they should be counted as people, but just for the purpose of voting. Still following?

Their opponents argued the slaves couldn't vote, so they shouldn't count at all towards the Electoral College. The FF reached a compromise: slaves were declared 3/5 of a person, only for the purpose of determining the number of electors who would decide who would be President. So slave owners votes could be worth more than a hundred times more than the average citizen if he had more than 150 slaves. So here we are...in order to create a more peaceful tranquility in the new nation...
Brewha Offline
#73 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 1:12 PM EST
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Back to the OP, I'm still looking for a point of policy from him that I agree with or can believe in. "Make America Great" is a gimmick not a policy.

So far it looks like big buisness and big money are being given cabinet seats, tax cuts for the wealthy and their buisness are rolling out, and the health care laws we be replaced with a carefully crafted nothing.

So, no - I don't feel good about it. But I am watching for a glimmer of hope.





Hell, maybe he'll even learn to speak at the High Scholl level....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#74 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 1:19 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Kind of weird. I never read a should have or anything like that from gerbil. Just fact.

He never said Hillary should have won yet was accused of being a supporter of hers.

He never said we were not or shouldn't be a republic. And was greeted with sports and chess analogies.

Forget the politics (which I beleive he was not addressing). I think he was merely looking at a set of data and discussing what you can accurately or not accurately state from it. Non emotional, non partisan.

Folks sure get entrenched.

typical libtard rushing to the aid of another libtard... blah blah blah *logic* blah blah blah...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#75 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 1:20 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Back to the OP, I'm still looking for a point of policy from him that I agree with or can believe in. "Make America Great" is a gimmick not a policy.

So far it looks like big buisness and big money are being given cabinet seats, tax cuts for the wealthy and their buisness are rolling out, and the health care laws we be replaced with a carefully crafted nothing.

So, no - I don't feel good about it. But I am watching for a glimmer of hope.





Hell, maybe he'll even learn to speak at the High Scholl level....


I was with you until the end... you can't make a spelling error in a grammar joke...
delta1 Offline
#76 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 1:22 PM EST
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Funny how Rick Perry reacted when he was appointed to Secretary of Energy, a department he said he would abolish when he was running for President. Kinda like, "you serious???...OK I'll give running it into the ground and out of existence a shot...holy crap...it does all that???...and I'm in charge of maintaining the nukes???"
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 1:36 PM EST
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In fairness he forgot he was in favor of eliminating it at the he time so I figure he was just kidding and stuff.
Brewha Offline
#78 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 2:38 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I was with you until the end... you can't make a spelling error in a grammar joke...

In my defense, Cbid hold a large body of evidence showing that I can in fact make a spelling error under almost any circumstance.......

It's a gift.
Brewha Offline
#79 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 2:41 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Funny how Rick Perry reacted when he was appointed to Secretary of Energy, a department he said he would abolish when he was running for President. Kinda like, "you serious???...OK I'll give running it into the ground and out of existence a shot...holy crap...it does all that???...and I'm in charge of maintaining the nukes???"

Of cource originaly Rick Perry thought the Secretary of Energy was one of the Red Bull Girls.....
tonygraz Offline
#80 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 6:52 PM EST
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Finally our first colored president.
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 8:41 PM EST
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...but nothing rhymes with orange....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#82 Posted: Sun, Jan 22 2017, 9:15 PM EST
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silver does...
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