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Most interesting and best vitolas
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#1 Posted:
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What are some of the most interesting vitolas you have seen out in the market? In your opinion, what is the best or your favorite and why, based on hand feel, flavor, smoke time, even burn, etc?

I ask because I have been told multiple times now that I am doing it all wrong in regards to the size of cigars I like. Generally I love all big ring vitolas (60+), but I have been told that the small ring gauges are better for flavor. Why is that?

I haven't had the opportunity to try many interesting vitolas but did get to have the Acid Nasty Pyramid. I loved the hand feel of it but it is probably the worst cigar I have ever smoked. It was disgusting.

Anyone try the DE Eggs or Opus X football? Those things are pretty odd. Thoughts?

I have always wanted to try a Culebra but have not seen many out there. Then again I haven't tried very hard either. How does that work/smoke anyways. Seems so odd. What is the point of this design?

I've seen pictures of cigars shaped like pipes, baseball bats and wine bottles. Anyone try any of these?
Whistlebritches Offline
#2 Posted:
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
What are some of the most interesting vitolas you have seen out in the market? In your opinion, what is the best or your favorite and why, based on hand feel, flavor, smoke time, even burn, etc?

I ask because I have been told multiple times now that I am doing it all wrong in regards to the size of cigars I like. Generally I love all big ring vitolas (60+), but I have been told that the small ring gauges are better for flavor. Why is that?

I haven't had the opportunity to try many interesting vitolas but did get to have the Acid Nasty Pyramid. I loved the hand feel of it but it is probably the worst cigar I have ever smoked. It was disgusting.

Anyone try the DE Eggs or Opus X football? Those things are pretty odd. Thoughts?

I have always wanted to try a Culebra but have not seen many out there. Then again I haven't tried very hard either. How does that work/smoke anyways. Seems so odd. What is the point of this design?

I've seen pictures of cigars shaped like pipes, baseball bats and wine bottles. Anyone try any of these?


1.Lancero,petite corona,corona and corona gorda

2.Smaller rg's have a higher wrapper to filler/binder ratio.With majority of the best flavor coming from wrapper.....BINGO

3.I can handle the Kuba Kuba once maybe twice a year.......but I have never bought one.Handed out by a friend,his wife smokes the entire nasty azz line.

4.Novelties......personally I wouldn't waste my baccy money on something unsmokable.

5.Not sure on the point of design but to smoke them just unravel the trio and smoke the oddly shaped sticks individually.The Partagas Culebra is quite good with some age.......but of all Habano's Partagas is the only marca I smoke with any regularity any more.

6.Just more novelties to waste your cigar money on in my opinion.
Speyside Offline
#3 Posted:
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^+1, 1 and 2. Don't have experience with the rest.
KingoftheCove Offline
#4 Posted:
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5.5 x 46 .....
The best, and most interesting vitola....
Because.........I said so......
RMAN4443 Offline
#5 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
5.5 x 46 .....
The best, and most interesting vitola....
Because.........I said so......


and the King has spoken Herfing





















Sarcasm
KingoftheCove Offline
#6 Posted:
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OK.....

5.5 x 44 is a very close second....
dharbolt Offline
#7 Posted:
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Femur, I'll buy if you smoke it to the nub.

Whistle hit it right on the head.

As far as Culebra, they are just funny looking lanceros. Usually smoke well, Partagas and Johnny o make regular production ones.
Mr. Jones Offline
#8 Posted:
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I LIKE.....

YO' MAMMA
dharbolt Offline
#9 Posted:
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Very clever jonesy
99cobra2881 Offline
#10 Posted:
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It's so subjective.

Some cigars work in the smaller ring gauges but some need the larger ring gauges to contain enough leaves to meet what the blender had in mind. The one cigar that I think of is the Oliva V and the Oliva V Melanio. I really like the No.4 (4.5x46) in both lines they are good but I would call several of the larger Oliva V vitolas among my favorites. The larger sizes in those are more flavorful and taste better than the smaller cigars in the same line. In my experience, now to another person the no.4 may have been hands down better.

Some blends are tweaked specifically for a corona sized cigar. The corona viva is one such cigar and it has been said that it's the best of the entire Undercrown line.
MACS Offline
#11 Posted:
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KingoftheCove wrote:
5.5 x 46 .....
The best, and most interesting vitola....
Because.........I said so......


Can't disagree. Corona gorda is probably one of my favorite sizes, too. Corona Gigante... that's just a longer corona gorda!!
clickbangdead Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 01-31-2009
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Haven't had many culebra, only the Tat one, but it was fantastic if a little odd. Have always liked double-perfectos but finding a decent cigar in that format is rather hard now (plenty of crap in that vitola unfortunately...). I've gravitated towards corona/Lancero/lonsdale type cigars, really anything 50 and under is where I've settled.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#13 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I LIKE.....

YO' MAMMA


My momma passed away from a pulmonary embolism. The whole thing was so messed up and sad. She was in perfect health otherwise. So sudden. Don't worry though, I still enjoy a good yo mama joke.
jjanecka Offline
#14 Posted:
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Culebras were what the factory workers got. They used to tie them up so el presidente knew he wasn't being fleeced.

Or so they say...



LFD puts out the chisel tip cigars which are pretty interesting.
hnixon12 Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 04-20-2009
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jjanecka wrote:
Culebras were what the factory workers got. They used to tie them up so el presidente knew he wasn't being fleeced.

Or so they say...



LFD puts out the chisel tip cigars which are pretty interesting.



+1 for the Culebra thing...never understood it
dstieger Offline
#16 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
Culebras were what the factory workers got. They used to tie them up so el presidente knew he wasn't being fleeced.

Or so they say...




Not quite alternative non-fact?
.....My recollection of the explanation for culebras was that the workers were allowed to take out one cigar per day...they circumvented that rule by creating culebras, thereby taking three cigars as one.

I've had a few and all have been outstanding. Like some other challenging rolls, these are generally made by the better torcedors, resulting in consistently great construction.

h620 Offline
#17 Posted:
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LFD Double Ligero in "A" size, 9x47.
Stinkdyr Offline
#18 Posted:
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Me likem perfecto and mma ma ma my corona!

Herfing
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
I have been told multiple times now that I am doing it all wrong in regards to the size of cigars I like. Generally I love all big ring vitolas (60+), but I have been told that the small ring gauges are better for flavor. Why is that?

It all depends what you're looking for, Hank. Want the wrapper front-and-center in the flavor mix? Small RG. Want the wrapper less prominent in the mix, and want a more complex set of fillers (because of the larger volume available)? Big RG.

It's also very dependent on the blend in question. Some are great only in small RG, some great only in large RG.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:
I haven't had the opportunity to try many interesting vitolas but did get to have the Acid Nasty Pyramid. I loved the hand feel of it but it is probably the worst cigar I have ever smoked. It was disgusting.

ACIDs are often called "the gateway cigar" to get newbies into the hobby. ACIDs and the CI Legends Drew Estate (formerly called the "Copper Label"). The copper labels are far less disgusting than the ACIDs. They're kinda like an ACID but with one-half to one-fourth (depending on your palate) the amount of Glade concentrate added, compared to the ACIDs that punch you in the tongue with that flowery crap.

Hank_The_Tank wrote:
Anyone try the DE Eggs or Opus X football? Those things are pretty odd. Thoughts?

I have. Well, the egg, not the Opus X football, because all Fuente stuff is pretty much flavorless to me, and yet expensive.

Believe it or not, the Eggs are not bad. There's a natural and a maduro. Dig some money out of your sofa cushions and try one of each, if only to say you did. That's my recommendation.

I smoked my first egg (natural, because there WAS NO maduro version back then!) at a July 4 fireworks show. I was the hit of the immediate area. All the guys nearby were basically saying, "AWESOME!", especially when I got to the middle and it was putting out more smoke than a coal-fired power plant without smokestack scrubbers. Fun!

Hank_The_Tank wrote:
I've seen pictures of cigars shaped like pipes, baseball bats and wine bottles. Anyone try any of these?

No I haven't. Because buying a cigar to look at, not smoke, is like buying a Ferarri to look at, not drive. IMO it's stupid and a waste of money.

And if you DO try to smoke those things, it doesn't work well. At all.

Hope this helps!
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