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5 with ties to Trump r registered to vote...
frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted:
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in two states! Spicer, Kushner, Bannon, Tiffany Trump, Mnuchin

This is great, but I need help deciding if this is

A) just the greatest irony/hypocrisy ever or
B) is Trump so brilliant he had them all register twice to show how easy it is....most of them many years ago?

Clearly they represent the typical situation, people who moved without thinking about undoing their existing registration.
98.2% or more of these cases have no sinister plan to take advantage of the situation by travelling back to other states to vote again. It would be beyond belief to really think more than a handful would bother.

Trump claims being registered in two states is a sign of "widespread voter fraud". If true (it isn't) he should clean his own house first.

BTW, it is not illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state...

Ya can't make this stuff up.
Abrignac Offline
#2 Posted:
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Learn something new every day. Don't know this.
MACS Offline
#3 Posted:
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I'm on the record here with my thoughts.

I believe it is happening, and we should do something to prevent it no matter who is doing it. If it's as simple as having resided in 2 states and they only voted in one, fine. If they voted twice, they should be fined and fired.
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted:
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I could be the victim of alternate truth in reporting, but I saw it in this afternoon's local rag, front page below the fold.
I'm not really going wildly partisan, I just found it hysterically funny.
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I'm on the record here with my thoughts.

I believe it is happening, and we should do something to prevent it no matter who is doing it. If it's as simple as having resided in 2 states and they only voted in one, fine. If they voted twice, they should be fined and fired.

absolutely criminal to vote more than once, but actually being multi-registered is not a crime...nor is it an indication of widespread crime as Trump has been spouting.

I am sure the gang of Five did not vote more than once each, just as I am sure almost all double listers have done so by neglect, not with bad intentions, and also voted but once.

It would seem that some cross referencing is in order to clean this up, for sure.

But don't you find the irony funny, no matter who the loudmouth is?
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted:
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I've been in the same hood for about 25 years but it makes me wonder if I moved would I still be on da role here.... how would they know I moved unless I told them..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#7 Posted:
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I seem to notice that any time Trump accuses someone of something, we find Trump is guilty of the same thing.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I've been in the same hood for about 25 years but it makes me wonder if I moved would I still be on da role here.... how would they know I moved unless I told them..?? Huh

exactly
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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Tony would turn me in tho... Mad
deadeyedick Offline
#10 Posted:
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BTW, it is not illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state..

Dems in many states have resisted cleaning the voter rolls claiming it would "disenfranchise" some minority groups.
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
BTW, it is not illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state..

Dems in many states have resisted cleaning the voter rolls claiming it would "disenfranchise" some minority groups.

I'm gonna redeflect it back to the fact that these guys are twice registered GOP.

C'mon, man. It's funny.
Covfireman Offline
#12 Posted:
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I want to see their ID . I think they swam the river and are Mexicans in disquise deport them while we wait .
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted:
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Ironic.
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted:
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Were well aware of this issue in Oregon as we have vote by MAIL and this exact thing helps it happen.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted:
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Thanks Obama..!! Mad
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted:
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the Trumps seem to be the perps! Round 'em up and deport them!
I can't love this enough. If this doesn't prove how benign the whole issue is, then maybe I'm not like a genius after all...but we all know I am.
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Very funny... hoisted by his own leotard...wonder if it will be reported in Trump media...and if he'll pull back on his voter fraud investigation to avoid outing more of his staffers...
frankj1 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Very funny... hoisted by his own leotard...wonder if it will be reported in Trump media...and if he'll pull back on his voter fraud investigation to avoid outing more of his staffers...

another "exactly"
Al, you can tell others that you are like a genius.
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted:
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I can see everyone in his administration double-checking their voter registration status...

and that genius title.......nah...it's all you...
deadeyedick Offline
#20 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Very funny... hoisted by his own leotard...wonder if it will be reported in Trump media...and if he'll pull back on his voter fraud investigation to avoid outing more of his staffers...


Yep it's funny. Reminds me of the Obammy staffers who were outed for employing illegals as nannies , etc and not paying SS or min wages.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted:
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Those Bassards. !! Mad
tailgater Offline
#22 Posted:
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This is simply another reason to require photo ID's to vote.

tailgater Offline
#23 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
in two states! Spicer, Kushner, Bannon, Tiffany Trump, Mnuchin

This is great, but I need help deciding if this is

A) just the greatest irony/hypocrisy ever or


.


How quickly we forget.

Two words:
Tim. Geithner.

Treasury Secretary? Tax Evasion?

The word "Irony" was almost broken because of this one.




tonygraz Offline
#24 Posted:
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And then came Rick Perry.
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Yep it's funny. Reminds me of the Obammy staffers who were outed for employing illegals as nannies , etc and not paying SS or min wages.

didn't one of the current picks just do the same...I repeat, I did not post this as a partisan statement of superiority, but just because it is funny, ironic, and pokes holes in the sensationalized red herring issue.

There are not millions of people doing this on purpose, but there are millions of people who have no idea they have done it from all political parties.
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
Yep it's funny. Reminds me of the Obammy staffers who were outed for employing illegals as nannies , etc and not paying SS or min wages.



Exactly right, just as many members of the GOP have been discovered doing the same. A GOP candidate for CA Gov, Meg Whitman, lost her bid for that reason. Most ironic is GWB's nominee for Secty of Labor, of all things, having to withdraw due to off the books and undocumented nannies. Neither side can claim much moral high ground, here, or on many other issues, but it is fun sometimes, to play "gotcha."

I would bet money that members of Obama's staff have dual voter registrations, right now, but that doesn't mean they voted illegally. ...and both Trump's people and Obama's people know dead people who are still on the voter rolls...and I don't think any of them voted...the issue is an outdated voter registration system that makes it look like it can be gamed.

But there isn't any evidence that it is being gamed, as Thumpher keeps saying. That's why the irony here is so rich...
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
How quickly we forget.

Two words:
Tim. Geithner.

Treasury Secretary? Tax Evasion?

The word "Irony" was almost broken because of this one.





why the need to deflect and protect? is it not possible to find humor and hypocrisy among one's own side?
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted:
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...see, frank's like a genius...
ZRX1200 Offline
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So we don't know that they voted twice and being registered in 2 states isn't illegal.

Pretty much shows we do have a problem, like they said....but hey choose to see what you want when it's not your ox being gored.
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted:
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key word..."like"
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
So we don't know that they voted twice and being registered in 2 states isn't illegal.

Pretty much shows we do have a problem, like they said....but hey choose to see what you want when it's not your ox being gored.

I'd love to find out how many cbidders who have moved in the last decade even thought of notifying the old neighborhood to cancel them...and how many are currently listed twice or more and don't even know about it.

frankj1 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I'd love to find out how many cbidders who have moved in the last decade even thought of notifying the old neighborhood to cancel them...and how many are currently listed twice or more and don't even know about it.


and how many would now have the spine to admit it!

HA!
ZRX1200 Offline
#33 Posted:
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Flotsam and jetsom.....it's these weeds the masses of simple people have been hooked on losing themselves in. Meanwhile let's ignore simple steps like what Anthony outlined.

A cabin seems better all the time.
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted:
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As far as partisan superiority, I have to acknowledge the GOP party's superior performance. They have leveraged a weak numerical minority position (23% of American voters identify GOP vs 32% of people identify as Dem) and resisted more effectively by staying united and using the few tools at their disposal to thwart liberal progressive agenda. They showed that a united minority can rule, and they have demonstrated that big league during the past election cycle. Dem over-reach and arrogance, along with over-reliance on polls have undercut their ability to exert the majority's will.
delta1 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Flotsam and jetsom.....it's these weeds the masses of simple people have been hooked on losing themselves in. Meanwhile let's ignore simple steps like what Anthony outlined.

A cabin seems better all the time.


So let's cut it loose now, since it's no longer useful as a tool to justify rolling back the protections of the VRA of '65 and passing more restrictive voting laws? Shouldn't we toss those into the scrap heap too?
victor809 Offline
#36 Posted:
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I'm sure I'm registered in probably 3 places. As you said frank, it isn't an indication of anything.

What people miss is that if that's "cleaned up" as the people here so desperately want, odds are they'd send a letter to all the addresses and odds are in wouldn't respond... seriously who looks at snail mail these days... then when I'd go to vote in wouldn't be registered any longer. And, since Republicans are against same day registration... no voting for Victor.

Now what do you want to bet this will impact different groups to a greater.or lesser extent? Seniors... largely a Republican voting block ... will read all their mail. Hey won't be a problem for them. People with very little spare time (ie single parents, people at the very margins of income... largely a higher dem voting bloc) will have a higher chance of being purged. The young who don't know what a letter is for... also frequently dem... will be higher likelihood of being purged.
delta1 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I'd love to find out how many cbidders who have moved in the last decade even thought of notifying the old neighborhood to cancel them...and how many are currently listed twice or more and don't even know about it.


I moved during the election cycle, and couldn't vote here in this county because I didn't register here before the deadline...didn't think about it...I went to register at the end of October, when our mail-in ballot wasn't forwarded, but didn't realize there was a 17 day period before the registration became effective...

So I went back to the poll place in my old neighborhood on election day, explained my predicament. They said I had to fill out a provisional ballot that would require verification. PITA. Lucky I am retired. I wouldn't have the time. Now I know how effective the
voting restriction laws can be to suppress voting. My fault because I didn't keep up with the voting laws, just like the supporters hope will happen to the uninformed electorate, mostly Dems...

It would be easy to set up a digital secure voting database in each state, that might increase efficiency, replacing the current paper based model. Might even pay for itself, or save a lot of money because we won't need as many clerks to maintain the records.
frankj1 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I'm sure I'm registered in probably 3 places. As you said frank, it isn't an indication of anything.

What people miss is that if that's "cleaned up" as the people here so desperately want, odds are they'd send a letter to all the addresses and odds are in wouldn't respond... seriously who looks at snail mail these days... then when I'd go to vote in wouldn't be registered any longer. And, since Republicans are against same day registration... no voting for Victor.

Now what do you want to bet this will impact different groups to a greater.or lesser extent? Seniors... largely a Republican voting block ... will read all their mail. Hey won't be a problem for them. People with very little spare time (ie single parents, people at the very margins of income... largely a higher dem voting bloc) will have a higher chance of being purged. The young who don't know what a letter is for... also frequently dem... will be higher likelihood of being purged.

wait! aren't the potential victims you've identified exactly the same folks who are travelling from state to state to vote multiple times? HA!

Shucks, I really was trying to post some humor initially...buncha sore winners!
Abrignac Offline
#39 Posted:
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Well here in brokeass Louisiana we I've moved multiple times. Each time I changed the address on my drivers license the registrars office sent me a new voter registration card. I guess when you don't spend a lot of money delivering services to illegals and battling crime epidemics you're able to fund the ability to monitor voter rolls.
fiddler898 Offline
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"If the President does it, it's not illegal."

I guess we can now expand Nixon's homey bromide to include the President's friends & family.
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
why the need to deflect and protect? is it not possible to find humor and hypocrisy among one's own side?


Irony is my favorite weapon. You tried to take that from me.
I lashed out.
It won't happen again.



victor809 Offline
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An intellectual sword is tails favorite weapon...

This explains why he appears so disarming...
delta1 Offline
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tail would prefer to be called a "cunning linguist."
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Irony is my favorite weapon. You tried to take that from me.
I lashed out.
It won't happen again.




I'm sorry.
tailgater Offline
#45 Posted:
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I thought I was being witty.

Turns out I was only half right...


frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted:
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glad you're back
delta1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
I thought I was being witty.

Turns out I was only half right...





there...you just admitted it...you ARE a half wit...
dstieger Offline
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I've lived in seven different states and territories. I've been registered to vote in all of them. I've been a registered voter in as many as three states at once. Never would have considered voting in more than one (then one I resided in during the election.) Back in the day.....before comms and staying connected got so easy, I never realized that I needed to 'unregister' from a prior residence....nor, that there was any problem. I know that I've since contacted a number of my prior states to 'unregister', but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that I might still be registered somewhere other than VA.
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frankj1 wrote:
the Trumps seem to be the perps! Round 'em up and deport them!
I can't love this enough. If this doesn't prove how benign the whole issue is, then maybe I'm not like a genius after all...but we all know I am.


Did you recently stay in a Holiday Inn Express? Beer
tailgater Offline
#50 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
there...you just admitted it...you ARE a half wit...


In this instance, Delta's grasp of the obvious is surpassed only by Tonygraz's.

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