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zitotczito Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 1:51 AM EST
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The death throws in all it's glory.

I am starting to feel that maybe America can be saved.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 7:09 AM EST
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Isn't it glorious watching them melt?


Look at them. Take names.


This is what they get for 8 years of covering the Kenyan King. The media failed America with the freedoms they were given. The leadership failed America while they grew wealthy at our expense. Our government has a single digit approval rating and we suffered because under their leadership they failed to do anything but ram a quid pro quo to insurance companies that was written by them for them by parliamentary procedure because they couldn't sneak it past any other way. They ruled by the Executive Order and were okay with it, because they weren't going to do anything without it and now are complaining as it's all being unraveled in the same way it was slapped together.

After 9-11 Americans wanted secure borders. W failed to even start the process. Obama didn't care, he want's this Muslim Brotherhood flood on our shores. Trump vowed to do something about it by not allowing unvetted nations to access our shores and build a wall. Mexico is teetering on financial collapse and NAFTA will become something if we choose to participate in again slanted towards OUR interests and not the "giant sucking sound" H. Ross Perot claimed it would be back in the 90's!!!

The entire DNC is in utter and complete shambles. Listen to them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIy1peoFCGY

This is where they want to go. There were enough minorities to see through their games and voted against them. Trump has stated he will be their champion and I believe him because he has throughout his career. He has opened doors and pointed out the flaws. I'm willing to give him the same opportunities to work for this nation that I gave Obama. Obama sealed his fate when in his first meeting with the minority House speaker and team and shouted he wouldn't listen to any ideas because he "Won". He won, and the entire party went along for the ride. They failed to actually promote anyone with real credibility so there was a future for their party. Instead they went scorched earth with a Clinton, allowed her to steal the opportunity that wasn't hers. NOBODY WANTED HER AS PRESIDENT! Those that voted for her didn't because she was viable. They held their noses and voted against Trump. Listen to the post op and they STILL want to hide...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02uhSjrkcDM

What the current administration cannot do is sit on their hands. They need to do what they said they were going to do and so far...he's doing it. Americans are results oriented. We want leadership. We want them to do the business we voted them to do, not bicker and do NOTHING!

What we have to face is the assault on the tv by the very same media that has lied to all of us for decades. They will never promote anyone that isn't on their team. They will slant the stories with their opinions with their short sighted lenses and keep the plates spinning as they fall all around them.

Yes, we are witnessing what Trump said...The government is being given back to the people.
SteveS Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 8:22 AM EST
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^ ^ ^ What he said ^ ^ ^
bassman45 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 8:32 AM EST
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Wow,well said!
TMCTLT Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 9:22 AM EST
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bassman45 wrote:
Wow,well said!



+1 Applause
Buckwheat Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 10:15 AM EST
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"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others." - TR

Keep fiddling guys. fog
Burner02 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 10:50 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others." - TR

Keep fiddling guys. fog




Must have been referring to Obama.
TMCTLT Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 10:57 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others." - TR

Keep fiddling guys. fog



You just described Obama to a TEE fog

Hope and Change
Buckwheat Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 10:59 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
You just described Obama to a TEE fog

Hope and Change


And the Republican version of Hope and Change. Trump.
TMCTLT Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:05 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
And the Republican version of Hope and Change. Trump.



You cannot possibly know this....he's been in office for a matter of days.....get back with us after EIGHT looooooong years and only then will we know for sure. :)
delta1 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:21 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others." - TR

Keep fiddling guys. fog




I side with Buckwheat here, and a majority of American voters do too. How can the GOP look America in the eye and say we love these executive orders and we want President Trump to keep it up?
Obama was trashed by the right for signing executive orders. He did that during the latter part of his term only when it became obvious the GOP controlled Congress had no intention to work with him. He had total shutdown and roadblocks in Congress.

Here's the difference: Trump has a GOP controlled Congress, one of the three parts of a balanced system. Congress should be given a chance to represent their constituencies, if America's republic is working like the system envisioned at the beginning. Give the minority party a chance to resist and whine in Congress before pulling the trigger. At least that will look more like a democracy, a system of government designed by our Founding Fathers...and will appear to be less authoritarian...looks matter...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:46 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Obama was trashed by the right for signing executive orders. He did that during the latter part of his term only when it became obvious the GOP controlled Congress had no intention to work with him. He had total shutdown and roadblocks in Congress.


You're entitled to believe what you want, but it would be nice if it was steeped in Truth. The Democrats didn't even bother to try to get any legislation passed and that left the Kenyan King with his pen.

Rather than play the B$ game we've seen play out...Trump is undoing it all by the way it was done.
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:48 AM EST
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Al, Obama made NO effort to work with Republicans and said that they could govern from the back seat.

How was ACA passed?

Now this is a bad way to govern?
delta1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:53 AM EST
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Any and all proposed legislation at both the House and the Senate, has to be discussed at committee level, then by the entire body, then voted on. With GOP majorities in both houses, the Dems rarely got any bills out of committee, let alone put to a vote. The GOP, with majorities in both the House and the Senate during most of Obama's terms actually had the ball in their court, but chose not to play...
gummy jones Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 11:58 AM EST
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executive orders sucked under obama and they suck under trump

they would have sucked under hilary too
zitotczito Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:00 PM EST
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The progressive left has been allowed to become petulant children and teaching them and having them become sapient human beings is difficult.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/24891-petulant-children-shouldnt-have-the-vote
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:01 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Al, Obama made NO effort to work with Republicans and said that they could govern from the back seat.

How was ACA passed?

Now this is a bad way to govern?


It happened at the beginning of his first term, when he had a Dem majority in both the House and the Senate, and there was discussion and votes by Congress. Congress voted it into law, giving it a bit of stature more than an executive order. Obamacare was not an executive order. That's why it is so difficult to repeal.

In 2010, the Dems lost those majorities in both houses, and after futile efforts to involve Congress, he started using his executive authority. Remember McConnell (Senate majority leader) and Cantor (House majority leader) both proclaiming they will do all they can to oppose Obama and make him a one term President?
gummy jones Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:07 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:


In 2010, the Dems lost those majorities in both houses, and after futile efforts to involve Congress, he started using his executive authority.


aka becoming emperor

regardless of hilary or trumps best efforts, these narcissists all want to be emperor and it is expected that either would have picked up where obama left off
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:17 PM EST
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I didn't say ACA was a EO......it was passed in the dead of night, with nobody readin it, with a provision that's never used. Because he refused to relent anything. And it resulted in the elections of 2010. For Christs sake they elected a republican senator in Massachusetts.
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:18 PM EST
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I'd prefer a working system, three co-equal branches working at the will of the people. Trump should use his majority in Congress and the Supreme Court, which he needs to work on, to legitimize his agenda more permanently. Executive orders can be overturned much more easily by future Presidents.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:19 PM EST
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Agreed, and just a reminder I didn't vote for him.
delta1 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:21 PM EST
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hah...neither did I...another of many things we have in common...
Abrignac Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:23 PM EST
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I did and I'm proud I did.
Speyside Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:30 PM EST
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I didn't, and I'm proud of that.
elRopo Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 12:31 PM EST
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Someone sayeth "I've got a pen and I've got a phone" but, waaaaay before that someone else said " Whatever ye soweth in life, so also shall ye reap". The shoe's on the other foot now WEAR IT.
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 1:56 PM EST
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I don't think the American people like being told to "sit down and shut up". I didn't think Obama did that, but many people I respect and have much in common with say that's what they heard....and prolly why a man like Trump was elected.

Well, that's what many more people are hearing now, from Mr Trump, who is actually saying that often, in so many words. A reap will come...
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 2:00 PM EST
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The 2010 elections were directly because Soetoro jammed everything through by any means necessary, compromise be damned.
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 2:01 PM EST
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So yes you're right they don't, and the far left was SO FUGGIN TONE DEF this is what THEY created with the help of an ineffective and spineless oposition party.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 2:08 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I don't think the American people like being told to "sit down and shut up". I didn't think Obama did that, but many people I respect and have much in common with say that's what they heard....and prolly why a man like Trump was elected.

Well, that's what many more people are hearing now, from Mr Trump, who is actually saying that often, in so many words. A reap will come...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0bDbYUUhY

and again...

http://www.politico.com/story/2009/01/obama-to-gop-i-won-017862

Please allow me to refresh your memory as to how Obamacare was rammed down.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/physiciansfoundation/2014/03/26/a-look-back-at-how-the-president-was-able-to-sign-obamacare-into-law-four-years-ago/#5e9edc244096

Like I stated above...it was a parliamentary procedure...it wasn't "passed" in any manner you seem to believe.

Americans do NOT like the tax. Let's not kid ourselves, it's not a bill. It's a tax. The Supreme Court ruled as such and that is how it stays on the books...for now.
delta1 Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 2:46 PM EST
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Yes, I see a President, who won the 2008 election by a clear majority, speaking with a member of Congress, AFTER the passage of the ACA. And votes WERE taken in both Houses, pursuant to procedures, to pass the Affordable Care Act BEFORE that conversation.

The stimulus plan talked about in the second video also describes a President working with Congress. It is Congress who is responsible for writing bills/spending U.S. taxpayer money. And the bill that was ultimately passed, by Congress, did have some GOP ideas in it, but not all that they wanted. Those videos show how govt. is supposed to work.

Let's agree to disagree about whether, or not, we like the sausage that results...
Abrignac Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 2:56 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Yes, I see a President, who won the 2008 election by a clear majority, speaking with a member of Congress, AFTER the passage of the ACA. And votes WERE taken in both Houses, pursuant to procedures, to pass the Affordable Care Act BEFORE that conversation.

The stimulus plan talked about in the second video also describes a President working with Congress. It is Congress who is responsible for writing bills/spending U.S. taxpayer money. And the bill that was ultimately passed, by Congress, did have some GOP ideas in it, but not all that they wanted. Those videos show how govt. is supposed to work.

Let's agree to disagree about whether, or not, we like the sausage that results...


I think landmark legislation such as this should have passed as new legislation not as a reconciliation process. The bill should have been read before it was passed. There should have been hearings to discuss the provisions. None of that was done. It's hard to believe there wouldn't be backlash.

Jeez!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 3:54 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I think landmark legislation such as this should have passed as new legislation not as a reconciliation process. The bill should have been read before it was passed. There should have been hearings to discuss the provisions. None of that was done. It's hard to believe there wouldn't be backlash.

Jeez!!!


How dare you just speak the truth up in here.

You're supposed to like go all sarcastic and spittle fly...like they do!
delta1 Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 4:27 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I think landmark legislation such as this should have passed as new legislation not as a reconciliation process. The bill should have been read before it was passed. There should have been hearings to discuss the provisions. None of that was done. It's hard to believe there wouldn't be backlash.

Jeez!!!



The reconciliation process is a procedure that exists in both the Senate and the House, and both the GOP and the Dems have used it in the past. The GOP has used it 17 times since it was approved as a legislative procedure. Dems have used it 6 times.

I guess acceptance of the procedure, or disparaging it, depends on who is doing the ramming, and who is being rammed...
Mr. Jones Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 7:43 PM EST
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I hear there are a TON OF SHOVELS...
UNUSED..
Somewhere in OKLAHOMA....
IN A BIG WAREHOUSE...
THAT THE 300? BILLION STIMULUS PACKAGE
NEVER USED in those millions of
"SHOVEL READY JOB CREATION" PACKAGE....
And TIMOTHY GIETNER OWNS THE WAREHOUSE
WHERE the government is paying rent to Store them.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 7:46 PM EST
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I heard that the shovels were all delivered to that warehouse for free by UPS.
frankj1 Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 8:58 PM EST
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yeah, and I heard they ate the dimensional weight upcharges too.
Mr. Jones Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 9:00 PM EST
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#35 & #36 ^^^

LOL

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frankj1 Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Jan 29 2017, 9:03 PM EST
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HA!
victor809 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 1:52 AM EST
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I think we can safely say that if people are expressing glee over, in their own words, "social justice warriors in death throes "... then America cannot and possibly should not be saved.

The point where the term justice is used as an insult and there is glee at the thought of its failure is clearly not a sign of our country getting better. It is a sign of festering and sickness. A blight of propaganda in our discourse where scoring points has higher merit than accuracy.

If our country falls to ruin, it seems much more likely to be the fault of people who would use the term justice in an Internet insult than someone who it was used against.
TMCTLT Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 5:25 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I think we can safely say that if people are expressing glee over, in their own words, "social justice warriors in death throes "... then America cannot and possibly should not be saved.

The point where the term justice is used as an insult and there is glee at the thought of its failure is clearly not a sign of our country getting better. It is a sign of festering and sickness. A blight of propaganda in our discourse where scoring points has higher merit than accuracy.

If our country falls to ruin, it seems much more likely to be the fault of people who would use the term justice in an Internet insult than someone who it was used against.




LOLOLOLOL


Do you ever go back and read any of this **** you write??? I mean just for a good laugh....cuz your funny as Hell fog
victor809 Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 10:38 AM EST
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Case in point. You ....
jjanecka Offline
#42 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 10:44 AM EST
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Victor your a lot more cool when you're posting dong pics.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#43 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 11:59 AM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
Victor your a lot more cool when you're posting dong pics.



Sounds like jj enjoys seeing pictures of dongs.
victor809 Offline
#44 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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I don't know any other way to interpret that...
Speyside Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 12:41 PM EST
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He likes men with dongs?
victor809 Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 12:45 PM EST
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I think he just likes the dongs.
delta1 Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 12:49 PM EST
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Isn't it ironic that a Chinese sounding word is used to describe the male member...
jjanecka Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 3:01 PM EST
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And how their names consist of pots and pans falling down the stairs.
tailgater Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 3:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Isn't it ironic that a Chinese sounding word is used to describe the male member...


Now this is the kind of insight we need more of.
Stinkdyr Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Jan 30 2017, 3:52 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
"The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others." - TR

Keep fiddling guys. fog



He was talking about Hitlery Clintax.

fog
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