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Snopes = FAKE!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Do You Trust Snopes? You Won’t After Reading This.


The big players in the GMO and agrochemical industry – Monsanto, Bayer, Dow, Syngenta, DuPont – are engaging in an extensive public relations, advertising, lobbying and political campaigning to make sure that genetically engineered crops (GMOs), and the chemical pesticides they require, continue to proliferate in the U.S.

To improve their public image, they are attempting to manipulate everything we see and hear about GMO crops and pesticides in the media and on TV, the internet and print articles – using propaganda-laden commercials, “mommy-blogger” articles, farmer endorsements, hired operatives to change Wikipedia, and front group websites. The biotech industry is feeling threatened, and their profits hang in the balance. They are trying to silence the truth!

We now have evidence that the website Snopes.com is being manipulated by the industry too. But first, let’s examine what Snopes really is…

A lot of people trust the website Snopes.com and use it to fact-check things they hear on the internet. For no reason whatsoever, this mom-and-pop website has been put on a pedestal as if they are the be-all and end-all of truth on the internet.

Facebook recently teamed up with Snopes, allowing them become an arbitrator of fake news circulating on their network, essentially elevating them as an authoritative source of information. I find this development alarming on many levels:

While there is some fake news on the internet, this opens up the possibility that op-ed’s and independent journalism will get labeled as “fake news” if Snopes doesn’t agree with an opinion.

Articles can be deemed “false” if Snopes conducts sloppy fact checking. When it comes to the topic of food, it is imperative that everyone understands that this field is rampant with corrupt paid-off scientists and front groups that are working to protect profits of corporations at the expense of our health. You can not always trust information coming from self-proclaimed independent experts, and sources must be vetted extensively.

We all have the ability to use critical thinking skills while reading news on Facebook or any other online platform – and should determine for ourselves what is false and what is the truth – instead of relying on the work of websites like Snopes to do that for us.

Everyone should feel empowered to seek out the truth on their own. Especially when it comes to our health, we need to be our own advocates and investigate the food that we are eating.

This is treading too close to the line of censorship and can stifle our freedoms to express our ideas.
Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?

Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.

Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.

Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.

These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.

Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.

The recent series of events below demonstrates how Snopes has been influenced by Monsanto into manipulating the public opinion about the dangers of their bestselling product, Roundup weedkiller (aka glyphosate).

Monsanto has made BILLIONS off of the weedkiller Roundup (aka glyphosate) along with their Roundup-Ready GMO seeds, but sales have been plummeting since the truth about this toxic product is coming out. They are doing everything they can to keep those profits coming in!

Food Democracy Now! and The Detox Project conducted a report showing how this popular weedkiller is present in many popular American foods and when my blog post went viral (Millions of views!), Snopes came out with an article claiming that it was a “MIXTURE” of truth and fiction.

Snopes suddenly changed their assessment to FALSE about 24 hours later:
snopes-false

Did the facts really change? Why would they call this information FALSE?

When you compare both versions of Snopes’ article, you see that they edited it to suit a narrative that fits Monsanto’s agenda – it’s outrageous!

It’s as if Monsanto edited it themselves and sent it off to Snopes for publication. Entire sentences and paragraphs were removed that were hurtful to Monsanto. Important data was removed entirely. The wording was changed to make the findings of an independent FDA-registered laboratory seem less scientific or credible…

The data about how Cheerios and Stacy’s Pita Chips were found to have MORE glyphosate than the level permitted by the U.S. government in drinking water (700 ppb) was completely removed! Apparently Snopes believes it’s not factual or important to mention that some foods were found to have more weedkiller in them than even our lax regulations allow…

In this first revision, Snopes makes a huge mistake in stating that the World Health Organization’s International Agency For Research on Cancer’s (IARC) finding that glyphosate is probably carcinogenic to humans was “overturned in March 2016”, which is NOT TRUE…

IARC’s 2015 assessment has NOT been overturned, this is just what Monsanto dreams would happen. In reality, the team of international independent cancer scientists at IARC who made the finding that glyphosate “probably causes cancer in humans” are defending their decision, while being attacked by Monsanto with their lobbying group attempting to cut off IARC’s funding. The 17 independent scientists at IARC came to an unanimous decision that isn’t muddled by industry ties, and Monsanto is trying to shut them up.

The subsequent 2016 Joint FAO-WHO Meeting on Pesticide Residues (JMPR) is not reliable as the scientists on the panel have a giant conflict of interest in working with ILSI Europe, a group funded by Monsanto, CropLife, and big food companies, along with a board of trustees comprised of industry execs from Monsanto, Syngenta, DuPont, Nestle and others. Snopes is WRONG to say their finding is the “current consensus amongst the world’s regulatory agencies”. That’s the industry-funded view!

A large body of peer reviewed research links glyphosate to cancer, reproductive problems, liver, kidney and skin cell damage, antibiotic-resistance, and more – but Monsanto doesn’t want the world to know the truth. The industry has a long history of of concealing health risks about their products from the public.

“Historically, the same thing happened with tobacco, the same thing happened with asbestos, the same thing happened with arsenic. It’s not junk science.” ~ Aaron Blair, PhD, MPH, internationally renowned epidemiologist and the author of more than 450 scientific papers, who spent thirty years at the National Cancer Institute. Dr. Blair led the IARC panel.
After Snopes realized their mistake, they revised this section of their article YET AGAIN for a second time…
Which just goes to show they don’t properly research the facts before publishing stories!

Snopes completely removed their inquiry into the possibility that Monsanto has influence over the FDA and commentary about the potential harm of glyphosate to humans…

Monsanto has a long and sordid history of infiltrating the government and our regulatory agencies such as the FDA and EPA.

The FDA has been caught having closed-door meetings with industry representatives several times in the past. There is evidence that Monsanto met with the FDA specifically to discuss glyphosate residues in food in 2016:

“In April of this year, Monsanto’s international regulatory affairs manager Amelia Jackson-Gheissari emailed FDA asking to set up a time to talk about “enforcement of residue levels in the USA, particularly glyphosate.” ~ Huffington Post, September 2016
monsanto-fda

Monsanto also had secret talks with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) about glyphosate and are trying to hide the documentation from the public.

“The plaintiffs’ attorneys say at least four specific documents they have obtained are clearly in the public interest and “illuminate that one of Monsanto’s chief business strategies is its secret and untoward influence on EPA.” – Huffington Post, January 2017

Likewise, the industry group CropLife (which represents Monsanto and agrochemical companies) tried to stop the EPA from convening their scientific panel to review the carcinogenic potential of glyphosate. Read their August 24, 2016 letter to the EPA here. (The meeting took place in December, and the EPA’s findings have not yet been made public.)

Yet, my post was called “unsubstantiated”…

Who is really speaking the truth here? Who is distorting the facts? Why is Snopes helping Monsanto bury this story? Remember: Snopes makes all of their money from advertising.
Advertisements on Snopes website for Monsanto/Bayer:

The Shocking Revelation! Why Snopes Changed Their Article To “False”…

It was brought to my attention that after Snopes first called our piece a “MIXTURE” of truth, Monsanto’s operative (aka Kevin Folta) swept in and started bullying the reporter at Snopes into changing his article to claim that the information we presented was “FALSE”.

Kevin Folta tweeted Snopes and their reporter (Alex Kasprak) multiple times, again, and again, and again, and again, until they agreed to listen to him…

Kevin Folta is the scientist that has been widely discredited in the New York Times for his secret dealings with the industry and Monsanto.

He is NOT independent and works right along with Monsanto executives, industry consultants, and lobbyists to spread their propaganda…

Here, Kevin Folta solicited for and received a $25,000 grant from Monsanto to help them with their “3rd party approach to developing advocacy”.

In other words, this is how Monsanto quietly paid Kevin Folta to advocate for them…

Kevin Folta will now gladly point you to his funding page in an attempt to show that he is “independent” and “transparent”, however it shows he receives funding from…

The American Seed Trade Association – self described “advocates for the industry” led by corporate executives from Bayer, AgReliant Genetic, Dupont Pioneer.

The Oregon Farm Bureau – a powerful lobbying group for the industry and Big Ag.

Manitoba Canola Growers – funded by canola check off program, a major GMO crop.

In 2016, he was paid a $5,000 honorarium by the Florida Agrichemical and Fertilizer Association – an industry trade group for makers of pesticides and herbicides, of which he claims the funds are used to support his “science communication outreach program”. How is this outreach “independent” again?

It’s apparent from this series of events that Snopes edited their article to be favorable to Monsanto at the request of Kevin Folta.

Just as I had reported, Monsanto is scrambling to bury this story and Snopes is just one channel that they are using to make people believe that any story speaking negatively about Roundup and GMOs is false. This is a dirty fight and Monsanto’s propaganda is in full force. This Snopes piece is all marketing. Marketing for Monsanto!

We contacted Snopes, but they refuse to correct their story:

Snopes response to Food Babe: “The change in rating was mainly the result of my narrowing the focus of the claim to the alleged conspiracy to suppress residue data. This was in response to criticism from ‘both sides’ about a lack of clarity my original approach took. The issue with the FDN study, of course, is that its methods have not been peer-reviewed or even made public, outside of the fact that the report states the tool was an LC-MS-MS in an FDA-certified lab… My approach is to take the totality of these data, which argues that at environmentally relevant concentrations there is no harm through diet, while allowing that debate still exists within the the scientific community. That remains my position.”
After all of this… Kevin Folta admits that the glyphosate tests that we reported on were 100% CORRECT…

That’s right. He contacted Anresco Laboratories and found that their testing was done 100% correctly and obtained honestly. In fact, in his podcast he admits he should have contacted them first. Yet Snopes still calls this report FALSE. Isn’t this ridiculous?

Read Anresco Laboratories test results here and the statement on the validity of their testing here.

Food Babe Army CALL TO ACTION:
1. Contact Snopes here and tell them that their article about glyphosate in food is spreading misinformation propagated by discredited scientist Kevin Folta and should be retracted.
2. Spread the word that Snopes.com is NOT to be trusted. Share this post now!
If you have friends or family that use Snopes as a factual source of information, please share this post with them! This is how we cut the legs off of Monsanto’s propaganda machine. We need to expose who Snopes really is and what they stand for. The truth will set you free!

Xo,

Vani

http://foodbabe.com/2017/02/24/do-you-trust-snopes-you-wont-after-reading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/




The site has been caught lying before. You're better off using wikipedia as a source than Snopes. You're better off using Papa Murphy's than Snopes. Go to this website to see the screen captures that are referenced.
teedubbya Offline
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Snopes is like anything else. It's one source of information you use to feed your brain and make your own mind up. It's not a be all end all or the authoritative source.

I would no more likely use snopes as my only source to discredit or prove things than I would use a food babe rant to totally discredit snopes.

You take the info provided by either as a start and think or dig further. Sometimes you don't have to because the info provided is enough to debunk something that seemed fishy in the first place or provided an obvious answer. Other times you need too look further.

There seems to be a game going on right now that says only the sources that support my view are accurate and the dissent is at best inaccurate at worst rotten and corrupt. It makes intelligent arguments and discussion difficult.

I first noticed it in the anti immunization crowd (not saying it started there just that I saw it there it's been happening elsewhere forever). As more and more info becomes immediately available at all times from all directions it's becoming harder to sort through to fact. And no source is perfect.

Snopes has pretty well debunked some things which pisses some groups off. It seems odd the number of folks that want to discredit them as a whole. You must ask why. On the other hand they've gotten some things wrong and I have no doubt have their bias. I'm becoming more and more convinced there isn't any unbiased source of information and you need to find the least biased on either sides of issues and compare and make your mind up.

Beware of those that ask you to throw the baby out with the bath water though. It seems to me there is a glass house dweller throwing stones.

Mr. Jones Offline
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Any...and I MEAN A.N.Y. ORGANIZATION
CAN BE I.N.F.I.L.T.R.A.T.E.D. by actual operatives
( SSG) or paid FELON operatives that train in many different job categories...especially chain industries,
i.e. home depot, lowes, Giant Grocery stores,
Convienience chains, HOME GOODS....
ON AND ON AND ON...
TRAVELING NURSES AND RECEPTIONSISTS....
THEY BLEND RIGHT IN WITH NO TRAINING WHATSOEVER....
These operatives are FORCED into these jobs by BRIBES AND THREATS FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE,
IT IS A WHOLE SUB-CULTURE OF CHEESE EATING RAT **** NARCS AND SOCIOPATH's released early from prison on FELONY CHARGES ....
ALL UNDER THE COMMAND OF THEIR FBI-SSG
HANDLERS....

NOW back to SNOPES...
WHY ARE ENGLISH MAJORS AND WRITERS
A.N.Y. DIFFERENT than any other occupations?
THESE GUYS EMBEZZLE FUNDS, GET CAUGHT WITH HEROIN/COKE, BEAT THEIR WIVES...PICK YOUR CRIME.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE...

WRITERS AND RESEARCHERS COMMIT FELONIES
ALL THE TIME....WHY NOT USE THEM TO AS A MEANS TO AN END ...FOR RICH POWERFUL PEOPLE'S OBJECTIVES?

Many on here believe nothing I say,
You ALL have your heads in the sand,
Once it happens to you...
Then you will finally get it.

Until then?
CONTINUE ON SHEEPLES...

BELIEVE THAT NO ONE CAN BE BOUGHT , BRIBED
OR FORCED TO COMMIT FELONIES BY THE
FBI-SSG.
tonygraz Offline
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There's still Polifact and despite the Ma and Pa organization, Snopes has not been significantly discredited for it's actual calls.
jjanecka Offline
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I fully support monsanto 100%. They are a legitimate company that is trying to increase yields for farmers and create new products that automatically come nitrogenated, are free of plague, and are drought resistant. I'll tell you right now that the organic industry is a sham and the main driver for produce increasing in cost at an unprecedented rate at market.
SmokeMonkey Offline
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Did anyone bother to Snopes this article?
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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I guess I'll to start a new website of truth and stuff... should be fun... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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I heard it's trumpnews.com

All hail glorious orange leader
DrafterX Offline
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Mine will be called, 'Truth and Stuff'... it's gonna have a pic forum with nips... ThumpUp
bgz Offline
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So your going to trust some ex fat chick turned health nut about GMOs over some other dubious at best source?

lol.

We're gene splicers now, get used to it, it's not going away.

Soon we'll have ultra intelligent and modelesque designer babies made on the black market bascially ensuring artificial evolution that may lead to our extinction...

and you're worried about GMOs :D

CRISPR, gene editing made ez!
DrafterX Offline
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Are they not gonna have designer white babies..?? Huh
bgz Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Are they not gonna have designer white babies..?? Huh


Even the rich black people could have designer white babies!!!
Speyside Offline
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That was a long diatribe, you should have used cliff notes. Maybe she is right, maybe not. Who verified her rant?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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I get all my news here. That way I know it's correct, because you guys always investigate everything fully.
MACS Offline
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
I get all my news here. That way I know it's correct, because you guys always investigate everything fully.


Yeah, and I usually just ask you, so...
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Mine will be called, 'Truth and Stuff'... it's gonna have a pic forum with nips... ThumpUp

I'm all in!
frankj1 Offline
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Let's call it William Tells
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted:
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Laugh
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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MACS wrote:
Yeah, and I usually just ask you, so...


See, we're smart! And we want respect like that.
Speyside Offline
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You could sell apples too.
Krazeehorse Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Mine will be called, 'Truth and Stuff'... it's gonna have a pic forum with nips... ThumpUp

Boobies without nipples are pointless.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
It's not a be all end all or the authoritative source.




To hear some use it...you'd be in the minority with that viewpoint. Most claim it like it's directly from God's mouth.
Mr. Jones Offline
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#9 DrafterX ^^^

That post was funny !!!

It's getting to be that you can't believe anything that is written in print or any video stories on TV.

With MULTI-BILLIONAIRES running the world
Who the H3LL knows what's real or false?

I THINK "MR. SNOPES" musta' met
BRAD PITT...

CUZ...

Mr. Snopes has the same problems as Brad...
I WONDER if he smokes too Much weed and
If the prostitutes are "RUSSIAN" ?
Like Angela Jolie "dimed out to the world"
On her hubby...
SteveS Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
To hear some use it...you'd be in the minority with that viewpoint. Most claim it like it's directly from God's mouth.


Exactly!!! ... that's precisely the sense I had recently when getting 'snoped' for mentioning something that was mainstream news a while back ... the same smug, sanctimonious put-down one often hears from religious zealots who feel their dogma to be threatened by a non-believer ...
gummy jones Offline
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Yes
Next question
teedubbya Offline
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Were you wrong or not?
teedubbya Offline
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Snopes is useful. They lay out their case. If you disagree you can point out where they are wrong. Just saying well that's snopes doesn't cut it.
SteveS Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Were you wrong or not?


nope ... I was citing mainstream news of 10 years ago ... I suppose THEY could have been wrong, in which case I was duped by them, but no one challenged the news back then ... now, however, it's apparently politically incorrect
teedubbya Offline
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Well if they were duped then you were wrong if facts matter
teedubbya Offline
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Not baggin on you steves. Don't even know the subject. I'm frustrated with all the disinformation snopes or otherwise and some peoples comfort with it (not you)
DrafterX Offline
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Why are you banging on Steve..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
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So a random blogger tells you not to trust snopes simply because it said her blog was false?

What if her blog was false?
mikey1597 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Mine will be called, 'Truth and Stuff'... it's gonna have a pic forum with nips... ThumpUp



DRAFTER FOR PRESIDENT!!
jjanecka Offline
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I think the whole point here is that reality can be manufactured and a lot of gullible people take the fall for it.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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victor809 wrote:
So a random blogger tells you not to trust snopes simply because it said her blog was false?

What if her blog was false?



I can really tell you actually read the post.Sarcasm
DrMaddVibe Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Snopes is useful. They lay out their case. If you disagree you can point out where they are wrong. Just saying well that's snopes doesn't cut it.



Did you read the article and go to the blog to actually see where they altered their own pages?

Did you miss the part where they can be bought off?

Now, they're being used as a WWW arbiter of Truth. They're liars and thieves, but that point is missed not only by you but others as well.
qmech Offline
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I learned a long time ago smoking ISOMs that the best test is to cut and smoke it.
Q
teedubbya Offline
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Yes dmv. I read it. I'm glad you are impressed.

You have to sort through things the best you can. Snopes is what it is and is not the gospel. The food babe has a terrible reputation as being complete garbage. meh.

Don't mistake me not getting gidgity over your recent blog find as missing the point.
DrafterX Offline
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But it was on the internets... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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Maybe I'm missing the point but I see nothing wrong with updating a website like snopes if more info becomes available. Do we know for sure (or just because a food blogger says so) that they didn't update after finding out she was actually wrong?
Mr. Jones Offline
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But......

Does Mr. SNOPES HANG with brad?
teedubbya Offline
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Lol

Dammit Janet

One thing is true, food babe had repeatedly been shown to be wrong by snopes so she got them back.
frankj1 Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
But......

Does Mr. SNOPES HANG with brad?

did you Bing it?
Mr. Jones Offline
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Nooooooo,

I BANGED MRS. SNOPES AND ANGELINA
IN A NITE OF AMAZING DUALAGE.
jjanecka Offline
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It's true I read it on Drafter's webpage.
frankj1 Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Nooooooo,

I BANGED MRS. SNOPES AND ANGELINA
IN A NITE OF AMAZING DUALAGE.

saved the best for last, eh?

hysterical, thanks for the laff.
Buckwheat Offline
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DMV you really need to keep your posts down to a page or less as this group generally has the attention span of a squirrel on Ritalin. fog
gummy jones Offline
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unfortunately bloggers, reports, anchors, etc are all activists nowadays
most lean left but there are certainly some that lean the other way
snopes certainly isnt unbiased and it is sad
Buckwheat Offline
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This bit caught my eye: "While there is some fake news on the internet, this opens up the possibility that op-ed’s and independent journalism will get labeled as “fake news” if Snopes doesn’t agree with an opinion."

Op-ed's are not news they are opinions. fog
opelmanta1900 Offline
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So cnn isn't news anymore?
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