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LawOfMD Offline
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Ive been enjoying cigars since 2008 but in limited moderation. Maybe 60 sticks a year so about 5 a month but now that I am fully retired (I'm 46) I plan to ramp that up. Put plainly, I am a total lightweight when it comes to nicotine but I love full flavor and body cigars (just not full strength) - I just hate the muscle aches, head aches, dizzyness and nausea even the lightest, non-ligero sticks cause me (yes I smoke slow. Yes I eat beforehand. Yes I take in sugary drinks during and after as an antidote and yes I am healthy). I want the nicotine effects to go away so I can enjoy the tastes and experience better and maybe get out of this US Connecticut Shade rut. I wanna go full nicaraguan!

I'm sure I just need to smoke more and build a tolerance and I'm sure some of the lower brows on here will chime in that this indicates a lack of manliness or gayness or that my name is probably nancy - but I can assure you, my bench press is well above average, I am told often I 'coulda been a contenda', I chop wood (and lay pipe...with females) on a regular basis, sport an epic beard and kill and eat bears while they are still twitching (mostly of the gummy variety, mostly) - so it's not the level of man-ness that causes nicotine intolerance. And my name isnt Nancy.

I'm asking folks to post about your cigar/nicotine journey. How did you get to where you can smoke a full strength cigar and not feel the least bit nauseous. When and how many of what kind did you start on, what kind and how many do you smoke today. Where you a cigarette smoker before? (Ive never had one). Are there some here that never seem to build a tolerance but like me you do it anyway because the baby is better than the bathwater?

Thanks in advance to any that take the time to answer this. Smartass quips...whatevs.
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LawOfMD wrote:
Ive been enjoying cigars since 2008 but in limited moderation. Maybe 60 sticks a year so about 2 a month but now that I am fully retired (I'm 46) I plan to ramp that up. Put plainly, I am a total lightweight when it comes to nicotine but I love full flavor and body cigars (just not full strength) - I just hate the muscle aches, head aches, dizzyness and nausea even the lightest, non-ligero sticks cause me (yes I smoke slow. Yes I eat beforehand. Yes I take in sugary drinks during and after as an antidote and yes I am healthy). I want the nicotine effects to go away so I can enjoy the tastes and experience better and maybe get out of this US Connecticut Shade rut. I wanna go full nicaraguan!

I'm sure I just need to smoke more and build a tolerance and I'm sure some of the lower brows on here will chime in that this indicates a lack of manliness or gayness or that my name is probably nancy - but I can assure you, my bench press is well above average, I am told often I 'coulda been a contenda', I chop wood (and lay pipe...with females) on a regular basis, sport an epic beard and kill and eat bears while they are still twitching (mostly of the gummy variety, mostly) - so it's not the level of man-ness that causes nicotine intolerance. And my name isnt Nancy.

I'm asking folks to post about your cigar/nicotine journey. How did you get to where you can smoke a full strength cigar and not feel the least bit nauseous. When and how many of what kind did you start on, what kind and how many do you smoke today. Where you a cigarette smoker before? (Ive never had one). Are there some here that never seem to build a tolerance but like me you do it anyway because the baby is better than the bathwater?

Thanks in advance to any that take the time to answer this. Smartass quips...whatevs.


You lost me at 2 a month, what year do you recognize that has 30 months?
LawOfMD Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
You lost me at 2 a month, what year do you recognize that has 30 months?
Good catch. 5 a month.
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Must be that law school math
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You are obviously too much of a lightweight to smoke cigars, give it up and try knitting or crocheting instead.
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shaun341 wrote:
Must be that law school math

Not a Lawyer. Retired Military...but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time.
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tonygraz wrote:
You are obviously too much of a lightweight to smoke cigars, give it up and try knitting or crocheting instead.
ANND theres the dipsh.t squad leader rearing his tiny little head. TonySpaz, go back to the sandbox - adults are talking now.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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Switch to Cuban cigars. You'll get the flavor without as much nicotine. Won't be as heavy bodied as Nicaraguan cigars though.

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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Switch to Cuban cigars. You'll get the flavor without as much nicotine. Won't be as heavy bodied as Nicaraguan cigars though.

Got a link or competitor reference? JK

Yes, I have Monty 2's and 4's, very well aged and some HdM Ep#2's enroute from blankety blank blank. So far, Hasn't mattered. Still get issues even from the montys.

Sidebar: What are some really tasty low-low nic CC's you would recommend?
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I used to smoke cigs so it was no problem for me
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Teaspoon of sugar when it you get sick feeling
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LawOfMD wrote:
Got a link or competitor reference? JK

Yes, I have Monty 2's and 4's, very well aged and some others on the way from blankety blank blank. Doesnt matter. Still get issues even from those.


Montecristo is one of the fuller bodied (ie stronger) Cuban cigar marques, along with Bolivar, Partagas, Upmann, Punch & Cuaba.

Fonseca and PL are the mildest ones I can think of offhand. QdO, HdM* and SCdLH are somewhere between mild and medium.

LFdC, ERdM, Trinidad, Cohiba, HdM* SLR, SP & LGC somewhere in the medium range.

RyJ, VR, RA towards the upper end of medium.



*: HdM seems to span virtually the entire spectrum depending on which vitola. RyJ also has offerings that run from low power end of medium to low end of full.


These aren't hard and fast groupings either, sometimes there are exceptions. EL & Regionals can be anywhere in the spectrum. For example the Bolivar EL14 (super corona) was shockingly mild (at least when it came out - haven't had one since). And there have been some PL EL & Regionals that have been quite full bodied.
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^ no denying he's a smart(azz) guy.

HdM Petite robusto (search here for help on this particular one)

PL petite Corona is a favorite a.m. cigar for me.

Also try an Illusione Epernay.
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corey sellers wrote:
I used to smoke cigs so it was no problem for me


Yep! Slowly increase but keep to a level that's still enjoyable.

When weather is good I'll go through a box in a week other times it may take me a month. fog

c3s
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Montecristo is one of the fuller bodied (ie stronger) Cuban cigar marques, along with Bolivar, Partagas, Upmann, Punch & Cuaba.

Fonseca and PL are the mildest ones I can think of offhand. QdO, HdM* and SCdLH are somewhere between mild and medium.

LFdC, ERdM, Trinidad, Cohiba, HdM* SLR, SP & LGC somewhere in the medium range.

RyJ, VR, RA towards the upper end of medium.



*: HdM seems to span the entire spectrum depending on which vitola.


These aren't hard and fast groupings either, sometimes there are exceptions. EL & Regionals can be anywhere in the spectrum. For example the Bolivar EL14 (super corona) was shockingly mild (at least when it came out - haven't had one since). And there have been some PL EL & Regionals that have been quite full bodied.


Dude. Nice post! I'ma look all these up. Thank you

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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ no denying he's a smart(azz) guy.

HdM Petite robusto (search here for help on this particular one)

PL petite Corona is a favorite a.m. cigar for me.

Also try an Illusione Epernay.


Nice! Will do. Thanks.
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Smaller cigars. Try to smoke outside or well ventilated. Never on an empty stomach. If you have issues with mild-medium corona sized sticks you might just have a nicotine sensitivity.
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ZRX1200 wrote:


PL petite Corona is a favorite a.m. cigar for me.

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Yeah, the panatella and the montecarlo are also nice, although not as complex. But, you don't have to wait 5 years for the cab to come around...

I forgot all about the Picadores, those are more solid medium than they are mild.
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Seems to be a lot of crossover and confusion between FLAVOR, BODY and STRENGTH in cigar reviews and sale listings. I really like it when reviews specifically break the three apart and comment on nicotine strength as a separate metric to body and flavor.
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LawOfMD wrote:
Seems to be a lot of crossover and confustion between FLAVOR, BODY and STRENGTH. I really like it when reviews specifically break the three apart and comment on nicotine strength as a separate metric to body and flavor.


This is true. I hate when I go to a shop and ask for a med-full flavored cigar with mild-medium strength and they look at me like I'm crazy.

In fairness, they do go hand-in-hand to a degree. Ligero provides body and flavor but also a good dose of N.
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LawOfMD wrote:
Seems to be a lot of crossover and confustion between FLAVOR, BODY and STRENGTH. I really like it when reviews specifically break the three apart and comment on nicotine strength as a separate metric to body and flavor.



Body and strength are supposed to be synonymous. Over the years, people have often misinterpreted "strength" to mean how much nicotine there is. Cigars weren't always about nicotine, the importance on such is a more modern viewpoint and hence the separation is sticking.

Flavor and complexity are separate entities. You can have a cigar with great flavor, a singular flavor, or a combination of say two flavors, and they don't change. That cigar would be lacking in complexity, note, this does not make it bad. As my friend BeatDragon always said, "If that one flavor is yummy end to end, who gives a shit if has no complexity". Complexity is a changing of flavors and/or nuanced flavors. Being complex in and of itself, does not make it good.
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strikeanywhere wrote:
This is true. I hate when I go to a shop and ask for a med-full flavored cigar with mild-medium strength and they look at me like I'm crazy.

In fairness, they do go hand-in-hand to a degree. Ligero provides body and flavor but also a good dose of N.
"To a degree" and thats the rub. Finding those marvelous sticks where they've engineered a lot of flavor and body (which I would classify as smoke density - oily and chewy on the high end, thin and dry on the other) into them but magically managed to kept the N down.
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There's a pill you can take for your problem, its called "Growaset".
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Body and strength are supposed to be synonymous. Over the years, people have often misinterpreted "strength" to mean how much nicotine there is. A cigar need not be a nicotine bomb to have a full body. Flavor and complexity are separate entities. You can have a cigar with great flavor, a singular flavor, or a combination of say two flavors, and they don't change. That cigar would be lacking in complexity, note, this does not make it bad. As my friend BeatDragon always said, "If that one flavor is yummy end to end, who gives a shit if has no complexity". Complexity is a changing of flavors and/or nuanced flavors. Being complex in and of itself, does not make it good.
You clearly are more versed in the subject (I'm not being sarcastic) however I think you are facilitating the confusion. This noob would break a cigar down like this (and wish everyone would)

BODY: The density of the Smoke. Is it oily and thick and chewy or dry and thin or somewhere in between.
FLAVOR: Is the flavor (or flavors, see complexity) strong or weak.
STRENGTH: Strictly 100% the quantity of nicotine in the stick.

Somewhere in there is SMOOTHNESS. Is the smoke acrid or smooth/creamy or somewhere in between. Does it burn your tongue, throat and sinuses? I would consider this a negative attribute. Some maybe interpret this throat hit as PEPPER? I would say there can be pepper (red, black, white) FLAVORS but not feel acrid in your mouth hole. I can see where this can be confused and intertwined though. I Like the taste of pepper in my more salty, savory sticks but ive had sh.tty cigars that just burn because the smoke is so underdeveloped and alkaline. Not pepper. Damn this is getting nerdy.

Somewhere in there is TEMPERATURE which associates with construction. Is the smoke cool, warm or hot in temperature. Obviously that tends to ramp up as you near the nub. Science, bitches!

Once youve established that then you would discuss...

COMPLEXITY: Do these attributes change and transition as you smoke through the stick and how.

but what do I know.

My #1 cigar would have good CONSTRUCTION. Copious amounts of buttery smooth, cool in temperature, oily, chewy smoke (BODY) with (or without) transitions in FLAVOR, yet 0% STRENGTH (nicotine). Doesn't exist, I know but that would be the goal for me.
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elRopo wrote:
There's a pill you can take for your problem, its called "Growaset".
Ah, the executive officer of the TonySpaz dipsh.t squad has appeared. Welcome.
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Cuban Macanudo should be right in your wheelhouse. Try searching on cigarsforpuzzies.md

Did you participate in the women's march before the inauguration? If so I hope you didn't wear one of those silly hats.Boo hoo!
LawOfMD Offline
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elRopo wrote:
Cuban Macanudo should be right in your wheelhouse. Try searching on cigarsforpuzzies.md

Did you participate in the women's march before the inauguration? If so I hope you didn't wear one of those silly hats.Boo hoo!

Had one. No flavor. Maybe try expanding your mind past a high school mentality. At 80+ years you'd think you'd learnt this by now. Go to www.helpforloserswhostillworkatmcdonalds.com
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Niedermeyer wrote:
Had one. No flavor. Maybe try expanding your mind past a high school mentality. At 80+ years you'd think you'd learnt this by now. Go to www.helpforloserswhostillworkatmcdonalds.com



d'oh!
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Are you inhaling?
I'm assuming not.....but if you are......stop it.

Next, cut back on retrohaling if you are doing that.
Start spitting more while smoking.....a problem in certain situations obviously, but when your alone in the back yard, no problem.

The above measures will help reduce the amount of nicotine you're getting when smoking a cigar.
Oh, and grow a pair...............had to say it......you know that.
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LawOfMD wrote:
You clearly are more versed in the subject (I'm not being sarcastic) however I think you are facilitating the confusion. This noob would break a cigar down like this (and wish everyone would)

BODY: The density of the Smoke. Is it oily and thick and chewy or dry and thin or somewhere in between.
FLAVOR: Is the flavor (or flavors, see complexity) strong or weak.
STRENGTH: Strictly 100% nicotine content.

Somewhere in there is SMOOTHNESS. Is the smoke acrid or smooth/creamy or somewhere in between.

Somewhere in there is TEMPERATURE which associates with construction. Is the smoke cool, warm or hot in temperature. Obviously that tends to ramp up as you near the nub. Physics.

Once youve established that then you would discuss...

COMPLEXITY: Do these attributes change and transition as you smoke through the stick and how.

but what do I know.

My #1 cigar would have good CONSTRUCTION. Copious amounts of buttery smooth, cool in temperature, oily, chewy smoke (BODY) with (or without) transitions in FLAVOR, yet 0% STRENGTH (nicotine). Doesn't exist, I know but that would be the goal for me.



I was clarifying (editing) the initial post when you quoted it, I think it makes a bit more sense now.

The issue is that for decades, there was no dependency on nicotine. Cigars were not blended with the sole intent of making your head spin. Strength and body were basically synonymous. Body was power. To get the body, you had to use stronger tobaccos.

Somewhere in the decade after the boom when cigars ceased to be the things of old men, Hollywood producers and mobsters things started to change. Between more demand, Nicaragua getting back to selling tobacco and cigars after years of war and the embargo against them being lifted, and the science of GMO tobacco improving , stronger cigars became the next fad.

At some point after that is when the separation started. When less than reputable manufacturers started pulling tricks like using underfermented tobacco to boost strength. That crap will make your head spin, but it's harsh and it burns your throat. But, people thought that was important.

That's when things broke and the definitions split.

I've had strong cigars that were harsh and did not have a body to them, I might have thought they were impressive at the time, but I didn't know any better. Now, I would consider all of them crap.

To your quest, unfortunately, I've never had a full bodied cigar that does not have some level of strength behind it. Some more than others, Larger RG Anjeos, T52, various limited Tatuaje's that I forget the names of & PAM64 maduro all big body, and at the lower end of the "strength" scale. Aganorsa, El Rico Habano, el Cobre, old Camacho blacks, LFD & JdN at the stronger end. They all packed a bit of a hit, and they were all great cigars.

Maybe someone else out there knows of what you would call a full bodied cigar with low strength, because I do not. The best advice I can give is to focus on flavor, ZRX had some great suggestions earlier. With time, you'll probably start to slide into more full bodied cigars, maybe you'll never get to the point of an LFD Chisel, but whatever, at least it will have tasted good getting there.
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
I was clarifying (editing) the initial post when you quoted it, I think it makes a bit more sense now.

The issue is that for decades, there was no dependency on nicotine. Cigars were not blended with the sole intent of making your head spin. Strength and body were basically synonymous. Body was power. To get the body, you had to use stronger tobaccos.

Somewhere in the decade after the boom when cigars ceased to be the things of old men, Hollywood producers and mobsters things started to change. Between more demand, Nicaragua getting back to selling tobacco and cigars after years of war and the embargo against them being lifted, and the science of GMO tobacco improving , stronger cigars became the next fad.

At some point after that is when the separation started. When less than reputable manufacturers started pulling tricks like using underfermented tobacco to boost strength. That crap will make your head spin, but it's harsh and it burns your throat. But, people thought that was important.

That's when things broke and the definitions split.

I've had strong cigars that were harsh and did not have a body to them, I might have thought they were impressive at the time, but I didn't know any better. Now, I would consider all of them crap.

To your quest, unfortunately, I've never had a full bodied cigar that does not have some level of strength behind it. Some more than others, Larger RG Anjeos, T52, various limited Tatuaje's that I forget the names of & PAM64 maduro all big body, and at the lower end of the "strength" scale. Aganorsa, El Rico Habano, el Cobre, old Camacho blacks, LFD & JdN at the stronger end. They all packed a bit of a hit, and they were all great cigars.

Maybe someone else out there knows of what you would call a full bodied cigar with low strength, because I do not.

Interesting, helpful post! This is what I come here for. The one dimensional dipsh.ts that slither and mope around here not so much. lol
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99cobra2881 wrote:
d'oh!

Animal House?
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w:d/
KingoftheCove wrote:
Are you inhaling?
I'm assuming not.....but if you are......stop it.

Next, cut back on retrohaling if you are doing that.
Start spitting more while smoking.....a problem in certain situations obviously, but when your alone in the back yard, no problem.

The above measures will help reduce the amount of nicotine you're getting when smoking a cigar.
Oh, and grow a pair...............had to say it......you know that.
Oh, absolutely not inhaling although I love the smell of cigar smoke so I enjoy smoking in closed rooms. Might need to increase the ventilation some. Spitting, hadn't thought of that. Good suggestion.

As for the last, the many rugrats running around the house attest that I have a pair, that they have dropped and they work well. Too well. Dancing
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LawOfMD wrote:
Had one. No flavor. Maybe try expanding your mind past a high school mentality. At 80+ years you'd think you'd learnt this by now. Go to www.helpforloserswhostillworkatmcdonalds.com

Don't take it so hard (personal) law dog. Once you build up a little post cred the hazing will stop.

Nice avatar BTW, do you like smelly guys?
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Thundergerbil is by far one of the smarter guys here (not joking) and he's probably the only one who doesn't try to show it off. If you can pick up where the sarcade begins and ends this is a very helpful place.

#thickcoat
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Try asking your doctor about Growacet. It's worked for a lot of guys on the discussion board. LOL

So hard not to be a troll in here...

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elRopo wrote:

Nice avatar BTW, do you like smelly guys?
That's it exactly, so it's odd that we don't get along better. d'oh!
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Also, Juan Lopes #1 is a great lighter cc
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LawOfMD wrote:
Ive been enjoying cigars since 2008 but in limited moderation. Maybe 60 sticks a year so about 5 a month but now that I am fully retired (I'm 46) I plan to ramp that up. Put plainly, I am a total lightweight when it comes to nicotine but I love full flavor and body cigars (just not full strength) - I just hate the muscle aches, head aches, dizzyness and nausea even the lightest, non-ligero sticks cause me (yes I smoke slow. Yes I eat beforehand. Yes I take in sugary drinks during and after as an antidote and yes I am healthy). I want the nicotine effects to go away so I can enjoy the tastes and experience better and maybe get out of this US Connecticut Shade rut. I wanna go full nicaraguan!

I'm sure I just need to smoke more and build a tolerance and I'm sure some of the lower brows on here will chime in that this indicates a lack of manliness or gayness or that my name is probably nancy - but I can assure you, my bench press is well above average, I am told often I 'coulda been a contenda', I chop wood (and lay pipe...with females) on a regular basis, sport an epic beard and kill and eat bears while they are still twitching (mostly of the gummy variety, mostly) - so it's not the level of man-ness that causes nicotine intolerance. And my name isnt Nancy.

I'm asking folks to post about your cigar/nicotine journey. How did you get to where you can smoke a full strength cigar and not feel the least bit nauseous. When and how many of what kind did you start on, what kind and how many do you smoke today. Where you a cigarette smoker before? (Ive never had one). Are there some here that never seem to build a tolerance but like me you do it anyway because the baby is better than the bathwater?

Thanks in advance to any that take the time to answer this. Smartass quips...whatevs.



In all seriousness you could try something like the Tatuaje Havana VI. It's got a ton of flavor and not a lot of strength. My buddy, who doesnt smoke cigs/chew said it was pretty mild. I also like the Camacho Ecuador or the Oliva Masterblends III when I'm wanting a good smoke without a lot of strength. If those are too strong for you then you might want to stay with Connecticut cigars.
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elRopo wrote:
Don't take it so hard (personal) law dog. Once you build up a little post cred the hazing will stop.

Seeing how Hivelys been here since '15 and you guys still ride him like you rode your boyfriend last night, I seriously doubt it.

Did High School sports (the best 6 years of my life. heh) then another 18 or so in a Chief's Mess onboard ship. I know a thing or two about hazing. Received it. Gave it. Guess I'm just over it? Its also different (and more fun) when it with people you actual know, and not total strangers hiding bravely behind keyboards.


The Avatar: Best "Calvin smoking cigars" example I could find.
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I used to have issue with a strong cigar, but it's rare to happen lately. Same with pipe tobacco.

But I smoke more often than 5x/month. Not sure you'll build tolerance without smoking more frequently.

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LawOfMD wrote:
Seeing how Hivelys been here since '15 and you guys still ride him like you rode your boyfriend last night, I seriously doubt it.

Did High School sports (the best 6 years of my life. heh) then another 18 or so in a Chief's Mess onboard ship. I know a thing or two about hazing. Received it. Gave it. Guess I'm just over it? Its also different (and more fun) when it with people you actual know, and not total strangers hiding bravely behind keyboards.



Yeah but I dont post. Im only watching these boards because that will tell me when Cbid has fixed all of their problems. To them Im just as new as you. Once the "where's my smokes" threads change to "it aint broke no more" I'll probably stop checking in on a daily basis.
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I'll miss you.
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RobertHively wrote:
In all seriousness you could try something like the Tatuaje Havana VI. It's got a ton of flavor and not a lot of strength. My buddy, who doesnt smoke cigs/chew said it was pretty mild. I also like the Camacho Ecuador or the Oliva Masterblends III when I'm wanting a good smoke without a lot of strength. If those are too strong for you then you might want to stay with Connecticut cigars.

Tat Havana Vi - Check
Camacho Equador - Check
Had half an Oliva Masterblend 3 two days ago - aged at least a year.What happened to the other half? Ringo Starr ate into it. (Yes I just got over some beetle mania and no I didnt just throw it away. I'm cheap like that.)Anxious
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I'll miss you.


I'm sure :)
LawOfMD Offline
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RobertHively wrote:
Yeah but I dont post. Im only watching these boards because that will tell me when Cbid has fixed all of their problems. To them Im just as new as you. Once the "where's my smokes" threads change to "it aint broke no more" I'll probably stop checking in on a daily basis.

Wont you know that problems are fixed when air pillow and stick filled boxes arrive at your door? There must be another reason. You realized you like verbal S&M from wheezy cigar bubbas don't you.
ZRX1200 Offline
#47 Posted:
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^ I'm starting to like you. A little
LawOfMD Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 02-10-2017
Posts: 86
ZRX1200 wrote:
Also, Juan Lopes #1 is a great lighter cc
Noted. Thanks!
ZRX1200 Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,477
JL #2 is much stronger
RobertHively Offline
#50 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ I'm starting to like you. A little


Yeah you like guys that suck up good. Baby pleeease!
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