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Did Sessions and Flynn commit perjury?
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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 1:26 PM EST
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I find it hard to believe they did not know they spoke with the Russian ambassador. I read what perjury means, but I certainly do not know the law well enough to interpret it.
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 1:35 PM EST
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What's lost with sessions is his capacity as a Senator and a member of the foreign relations committee. But the left doesn't want to talk about that.....just Russia Russia Russia

There's no evidence either did wrong. And there's no evidence Flynn knowingly mislead Pence which should be the focus there (and probably cannot be proven).

Pelosi and Schumer both have met with him....biting this charade is an exercise in idiocy
Burner02 Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 2:08 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
What's lost with sessions is his capacity as a Senator and a member of the foreign relations committee. But the left doesn't want to talk about that.....just Russia Russia Russia

There's no evidence either did wrong. And there's no evidence Flynn knowingly mislead Pence which should be the focus there (and probably cannot be proven).

Pelosi and Schumer both have met with him....biting this charade is an exercise in idiocy



Be very careful using logic and fact. You will confuse them more.
Speyside Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 2:17 PM EST
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My question is not related to the meetings. It is under oath to Congress the both said there was no meeting.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 2:39 PM EST
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Right..no meeting in the capacity (campaign) they're alleging.
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 2:41 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
My question is not related to the meetings. It is under oath to Congress the both said there was no meeting.


Flynn made Pence look bad
Sessions knew or should have known about his answers to both written and oral questions. He needs to resign. I never liked him anyway.
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 2:44 PM EST
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You not liking him should be grounds enough.
rfenst Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 3:06 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You not liking him should be grounds enough.


Of course it is!
victor809 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 3:08 PM EST
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If I had to sit through a year of republicans claiming Clinton lying about getting a bj from a chubby girl (which lets be honest is something we all did...) was the worst offense in the world, I have to assume this is at least 2nd or 3rd to the worst thing in the world.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 3:10 PM EST
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I'm honestly not a big fan either, but the false charges of him being a racist is bothersome. As is the campaign to derail as much of the incoming administrations as possible (which I also didn't vote for).
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 3:11 PM EST
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The POUTS purjured himself, nobody really cared about the bj.
rfenst Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 3:26 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The POUTS purjured himself, nobody really cared about the bj.


Yup.
Peckerhead Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 4:04 PM EST
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Discussing perjury in the context of these politicians is like asking the Russians to revamp their IOC drug testing.
Mr. Jones Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 4:51 PM EST
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That "SESSIONS" DUDE has SO MUCH BAGGAGE
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!

I THINK he is the
#2 MORON @ BOHEMIAN GROVE EVERY YEAR
WHEN THE ELITES get all diguised and sacrifice something behind the curtain....

That TEXAS DUDE James a. Baker III IS THE #1 hooded freak at
BOHEMIAN GROVE WITh the actual knife
KILLING whatever they kill....

That baker DUDE can kill with " an evil side eye"
As evidenced at mrs. Reagan's funeral...

Patty Regan got the death look...
Big-time from baker...
SmokeMonkey Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 5:00 PM EST
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As a citizen of Alabama, I was glad to see Sessions appointed as AG. But only because he no longer represents my state in the Senate. Now if Trump would just appoint Richard Shelby to the cabinet....
Burner02 Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 5:40 PM EST
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
As a citizen of Alabama, I was glad to see Sessions appointed as AG. But only because he no longer represents my state in the Senate. Now if Trump would just appoint Richard Shelby to the cabinet....



I will take Sessions over Shelby any day. Shelby's biggest concern is seeing more buildings built with his name on them.
fiddler898 Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 6:06 PM EST
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Sessions lied under oath.

To put it another way: the Attorney General lied under oath.

Period.
Burner02 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:24 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Sessions lied under oath.

To put it another way: the Attorney General lied under oath.

Period.


Not really.
fiddler898 Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:25 PM EST
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^^ That's all you have to say?
rfenst Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:30 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
^^ That's all you have to say?


LOL
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:42 PM EST
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Sessions didn't deny talking to the dude... he denied talking about the election. .. Mellow
rfenst Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Sessions didn't deny talking to the dude... he denied talking about the election. .. Mellow


Hair splitting.
fiddler898 Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:46 PM EST
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Actually, yes he did. Twice.
DrafterX Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:15 PM EST
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So, what's wrong with talking to the Russians if it didn't involve the election. .?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:24 PM EST
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I don't remember the exact words but they asked him if he discussed the election and he said no... he didn't deny talking to him... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:30 PM EST
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Maybe nothing, maybe everything Drafter. It depends on what was discussed. The for sure wrong in my mind is the lying under oath. I think for example that there is no way that Sessions did not know he spoke with the Russian ambassador. Wouldn't he have scheduled the meeting? Wouldn't he have written down notes. The same goes for Flynn in my mind.
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:37 PM EST
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He didn't deny talking to the dude... he was asked specifically if he talked to the dude about the election. .. Mellow
elRopo Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:38 PM EST
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Trump won.
Speyside Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 8:44 PM EST
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Sessions point blank stated that he did not have communications with the Russians. That to me is a lie.
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 9:18 PM EST
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Look for the transcripts.. he was asked if he talked about the election. .. Mellow
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 9:28 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Look for the transcripts.. he was asked if he talked about the election. .. Mellow



Franken: "CNN just published a story alleging that the intelligence community provided documents to the president-elect last week that included information that quote, ‘Russian operatives claimed to have compromising personal and financial information about Mr. Trump.’ These documents also allegedly say quote, ‘There was a continuing exchange of information during the campaign between Trump's surrogates and intermediaries for the Russian government.’

"Now, again, I'm telling you this as it's coming out, so you know. But if it's true, it's obviously extremely serious and if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign, what will you do?"

Sessions: "Senator Franken, I'm not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign and I didn't have — did not have communications with the Russians, and I'm unable to comment on it."
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 9:30 PM EST
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Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., asked: "Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?"Sessions responded, in total: "No."

Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 10:02 PM EST
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robert beat ya by two minutes drafter...."during" the campaign, not if asked "about" the campaign.
DrafterX Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 10:11 PM EST
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Well, it is what it is... I hadn't seen that... but we don't know how he interpreted the question either. . It's a witch hunt.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 10:37 PM EST
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I guess if he said he did not talk to them during the campaign then he could not have talked to them about the campaign...
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 10:52 PM EST
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It's a mess... not sure why it's even an issue. . Other than just a witch hunt. .. sad really. .. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 11:19 PM EST
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I guess it's a reminder that neither side is pure...
DrafterX Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 9:45 AM EST
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True... true... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 10:18 AM EST
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WITCH HUNT OUTRAGE!!!

Here's an IDEA....

A WEEK before the next
BOHEMAIN GROVE ELITE "fest" get together...

Put a tail on sessions... Then open his bags at the airport to find his fancy access to " the GROVE"
Fest ticket.....

Then you'll realize....

DO WE REALLY??? Want this " little ELF FREAKIOD"
WHO DRESSES IN HOODS and watch's sacrifices
As our
Freakin'
ATTORNEY GENERAL ????

H3LL ...I'd rather have an "EX-DNC BAGMAN"
LIKE ERIC HOLDER ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Burner02 Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 12:37 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
^^ That's all you have to say?



Fiddler, at that time the answer was yes. I had things to do and they did not include this forum or you.

My response to Monkey had to do with two elected officials from AL in which both Monkey and I reside, not with the current ongoing soap opera about Russia costing Queen Hillary the election. But since you see fit to make it about that, I will reply.

As far as Session’s response to the question, I was not in his head, so I have no idea how he took or understood/misunderstood the question concerning the election or during the same. If, in fact, the two meetings in question were as a member of the Senate Armed Service Committee and not as a surrogate for President Trump's campaign, then this is a lot to do about nothing unless the left produces evidence of collusion. This should not be hard to prove if it happened, since it now appears that both Trump and Sessions were being monitored by a third party. If collusion occurred, I will gladly offer my services to help tighten the noose around the necks of those involved.

I really question the genesis for your concern/outrage over the Session’s situation. I don’t recall the same reaction from you during the past eight years when it came to Fast and Furious, Holder being held in contempt of Congress, spying on journalists, IRS scandal, Benghazi, Clinton’s email/pay for influence, and last, but not least, the Iran nuclear deal/ransom payments. Based on this, I’m guessing your current concern/outrage is faux rather than real and is a result of Hillary being defeated rather than you having a real concern for this country and its direction.
Brewha Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 12:54 PM EST
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Peckerhead wrote:
Discussing perjury in the context of these politicians is like asking the Russians to revamp their IOC drug testing.

+1

But you have to admit that the whole this gave us some leasing right wing whining about the "morality" of the pres.
It is to laugh......
rfenst Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 12:58 PM EST
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Wall Street Journal

March 2, 2017 9:48 p.m. ET

"The Trump administration says Attorney General Jeff Sessions was acting as a then-U.S. senator when he talked to Russia’s ambassador at an event during last year’s Republican National Convention in Cleveland, but Mr. Sessions paid for convention travel expenses out of his own political funds and he spoke about Donald Trump’s campaign at the event, according to a person at the event and campaign-finance records."
delta1 Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 4:28 PM EST
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Even Trump said Sessions could've responded more accurately to the questions...

BTW: it seems that perjury to Congress is not the same serious crime now as it was about 20 years ago. Several other Trump cabinet nominees have been caught lying during their confirmation hearings: DeVos, Price, Pruitt, Mnuchin...perjury to Congress is only a big deal if your party controls Congress and the President is the opposition...
frankj1 Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Mar 5 2017, 5:03 PM EST
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whiitewater led to a bj!
Mr. Jones Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 8:28 AM EST
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This "story and situation"

Sounds a whole lot similar to
That LADY PROSECUTER IN HER PRIVATE PLANE
ON THE TARMAC ( somewhere?)
And the BILL CLINTON's PLANE Parks next to it
And they talk for 22? Minutes about kids and golf...

Just like SESSIONS talked About "something other than the election or TRUMP?" to the RUSKIES...
IF I was up for an A.G. appointment, I'd sit in my HUT till it was approved doing nothing....especially not
Carousing with Ruskies in full public view...

The ELF FREAKOID RECUSES HIMSELF is
A great touch too....

H3LL this little tturd is dirty as the day is long,
I wouldn't trust that MIDGET farther than I COULD
Throw him.
fiddler898 Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 7:18 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Fiddler, at that time the answer was yes. I had things to do and they did not include this forum or you.

My response to Monkey had to do with two elected officials from AL in which both Monkey and I reside, not with the current ongoing soap opera about Russia costing Queen Hillary the election. But since you see fit to make it about that, I will reply.

As far as Session’s response to the question, I was not in his head, so I have no idea how he took or understood/misunderstood the question concerning the election or during the same. If, in fact, the two meetings in question were as a member of the Senate Armed Service Committee and not as a surrogate for President Trump's campaign, then this is a lot to do about nothing unless the left produces evidence of collusion. This should not be hard to prove if it happened, since it now appears that both Trump and Sessions were being monitored by a third party. If collusion occurred, I will gladly offer my services to help tighten the noose around the necks of those involved.

I really question the genesis for your concern/outrage over the Session’s situation. I don’t recall the same reaction from you during the past eight years when it came to Fast and Furious, Holder being held in contempt of Congress, spying on journalists, IRS scandal, Benghazi, Clinton’s email/pay for influence, and last, but not least, the Iran nuclear deal/ransom payments. Based on this, I’m guessing your current concern/outrage is faux rather than real and is a result of Hillary being defeated rather than you having a real concern for this country and its direction.


Burner, thank you for your extended reply. I'm not really interested in what you recall about the laundry list in your last paragraph. None of it mitigates, ameliorates, legitimates, softens, or otherwise alters the fact that the AG lied under oath.
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#47 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 8:00 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Burner, thank you for your extended reply. I'm not really interested in what you recall about the laundry list in your last paragraph. None of it mitigates, ameliorates, legitimates, softens, or otherwise alters the fact that the AG lied under oath.

but it deflectigates.
Burner02 Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 9:13 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Burner, thank you for your extended reply. I'm not really interested in what you recall about the laundry list in your last paragraph. None of it mitigates, ameliorates, legitimates, softens, or otherwise alters the fact that the AG lied under oath.



Of course you would ignore the laundry list, it does not fit your agenda.
Burner02 Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 9:16 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
but it deflectigates.



You should know.
gummy jones Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Mar 6 2017, 9:50 PM EST
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Next thing you know he will be running guns to cartels and lying about that under oath too

Remember when Schumer was crying about that and stuff
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