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Hank_The_Tank

#1 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:11 AM EST

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Can someone explain to me the draw to country music? I just don't get it. I like all sorts of different styles of music, including modern folk, but country...it is like nails on a chalkboard for me.

Seems like every other person likes that junk...maybe I have defective ears.

Can't stand the twangy sound of the music and singing. There is a few really modern country songs I can tolerate but that is mostly because the singing isn't very twangy at all.

The worst is when people from up north sing it and use a fake twangy singing voice...come on people.

Plus, almost all of the songs are about the same things...trucks, drinking crappy beer/getting drunk, dogs, front porches, cheating on spouses. People say that rap music is bad because of what they talk about but country is just as bad, they just talk about the same stuff in a different genre of music (plus I am sure it is a racist thing).

I have so many friends that think I am nuts for not liking it. I think the same about them for liking it.

I almost wished I liked it so I could be in the "cool country music kids club" HaHa (not really)

If you are a country music lover...I'm sorry you have poor taste in music.

Rant over.

DrafterX User Profile	#2 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:24 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-18-2005 Posts: 98,536	What about Western..??

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#3 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:25 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	DrafterX wrote: What about Western..?? Western what?

DrMaddVibe

#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:32 AM EST

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Hank_The_Tank wrote:

No, you have a very pigeon-holed myopic small minded view on what "Music" is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED5s1-Fe9FA
Sunday Morning Coming Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC4Jc5a3nww
Outlaw $hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS4LCoh0VGQ
Your Cheating Heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uDWfTpIp3Y
All You Ever Do Is Bring Me Down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNXS_XBaR8
Fast As You

a primer on "Country" and if you still think that it's so damned easy to play that music...you'd be very interested to know that in that realm, only the BEST move forward. By the time the artists get signed...they're already head and shoulders above their Rock contemporaries as far as knowing more than one instrument, reading music, performing live and music production. There's a reason why Nashville is alive and well and will NEVER die. There's always a good crop coming up and you have to be willing to listen. You sound like you want to live on an island or only want vanilla ice cream. Whatever. I cannot and will not be stymied with one band, one genre or beg to define one as the TRUE and ONLY. It takes skill and mastery to make a hit song. It's the ones that endure for decades that you should pay attention to. I missed a slew of them with my choices, but once again...if you still fail to hear something that inspires then you should never comment on Music again, you come across as stunted and unwilling to take your preconceived blinders off and enjoy.

elRopo User Profile	#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:38 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 02-17-2014 Posts: 905	There's no hope for you Hank. Never heard of ZZ Top Don't like country Hell, I'll bet even your feet stink and ya don't love Jesus!

Hank_The_Tank

#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:40 AM EST

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DrMaddVibe wrote:

You have got me all wrong...I am not saying they aren't talented, they are obviously talented, that is not in question. It is all about the sound of the music. Just can't stand it. My wife and friends force me to listen to it all the time and I can count on one hand the songs I like in this genre.

Like I said, I like a wide array of music...pretty much everything other than country and polka (literally). From classical, to modern folk, to melodic rock, to hip hop, to EDM, to rock, to hard rock, to metal.

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:42 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	elRopo wrote: There's no hope for you Hank. Never heard of ZZ Top Don't like country Hell, I'll bet even your feet stink and ya don't love Jesus! I have heard of ZZ Top, just don't know any of their songs off the top of my head. My comment on that thread was supposed to be somewhat sarcastic. By the way, my feet stink and I love Jesus....but I can say that my crap doesn't stink....

DrMaddVibe

#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:44 AM EST

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Hank_The_Tank wrote:

You asked what was the draw. I told you and showed you examples.

Then why post such an ignorant post like the OP?

It's small minded.

You should be open to new things and experiences, you might like them. To stand on your soapbox and blurt out the OP? Naw, you have a one-way road building in your mind and are asking for validation that I cannot give.

Hank_The_Tank

#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:48 AM EST

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DrMaddVibe wrote:

Then why post such an ignorant post like the OP?

It's small minded.

You should be open to new things and experiences, you might like them. To stand on your soapbox and blurt out the OP? Naw, you have a one-way road building in your mind and are asking for validation that I cannot give.

Not ignorant or small minded, just my opinion...I just don't understand how people like it. I have tried to be open minded about country music...like I said, I have listened to a ton of it (mostly forced on me) and still can't understand why people like it. I don't actually think less of people that like it, to each their own. The OP was supposed to be a little funny/sarcastic.

PSA: This thread is not intended to offend anyone. If you are offended, I bet you got a trophy for being in last place.

fog

jjanecka

#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 10:51 AM EST

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Frank Beard lives behind my subdivision and those ZZ Top fella's play some damn fine Texas music.

I'll give it to you, I hate Nashville and all the "Hellraisin'" country music they're putting out and how every song sounds like a retarded mix of rap and banjos oh and the infamous R R R R R R R RED RED RED RED REDNECK ultra stutter song that makes me sick to my stomach. It's nothing but crappy southern rock.

Despite the musical talent, these folks are **** lyricists at best and pale in comparison to the days of outlaw country and Southern Gentleman like Cash, Nelson, et al.

Get you some Texas country or some Bluegrass, Hell, even some Texas Big Band Polka or Cajun music and you might like it better.

Also Hank, quit being a "please don't be offended" guy. Stand your ground! You're a man!

DrMaddVibe

#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:01 AM EST

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jjanecka wrote:

I'll concede that most of the "new" Country is terrible...but you have to dig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyxBZ2ufkzM
Cody Jinks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9FzVhw8_bY
The Dead South

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXFK82TGh7c
Justin Cross

POWERFUL lyrics and music in all and I'm willing to bet that you've NEVER heard of them.

JadeRose User Profile	#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:01 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 05-15-2008 Posts: 19,525	I like old school Country and the outlaw stuff. Most of the new mainstream "country" is garbage......to me. So guess what? I don't listen to it. Easy peasy. Just out of curiosity, what do you consider good music? Be prepared to be abused for your answer

JadeRose

#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:03 AM EST

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DrMaddVibe wrote:

I heard one the other day that I liked.....band called Houndmouth out of Southern Indiana. Liked them quite a bit....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQ72yB4vHc

sd72

#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:05 AM EST

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Country music sucks. IDGAF if you can play 9 instruments and fart play the harmonica at once. It's horrible contrived bullsh@t suicide music. The artists today are worse than before, who suck pretty bad, their pop music cast offs who couldn't cut it anywhere else. If you think Luke Bryan is an 'artist', you should just go back to licking windows on your 6 passenger bus 🚌 and stop annoying the rest of us with your intellectual post on a cigar site.

DrMaddVibe User Profile	#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:05 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-21-2000 Posts: 55,394	Hank_The_Tank wrote: Not ignorant or small minded, just my opinion... I'll say this...take it FWIW...listen more, and before you post an opinion read it. Leave it and come back to it. Still feel the conviction the reveal that piece of you then post it. Just remember that in a forum like this, words are what we take people for. Why remove all doubt for someone? Just sayin'

DrMaddVibe User Profile	#16 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:06 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-21-2000 Posts: 55,394	sd72 wrote: If you think Luke Bryan is an 'artist', you should just go back to licking windows on your 6 passenger bus 🚌 and stop annoying the rest of us with your intellectual post on a cigar site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI2JAU3QGFE Can we agree that he's terrible?

Hank_The_Tank

#17 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:06 AM EST

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jjanecka wrote:

I just wanted it to be known that I wasn't actually trying to offend people...just not the reason for my post.

Here is what my OP should have said:

Country music sucks! That is all.

sd72 User Profile	#18 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:07 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-09-2011 Posts: 9,600	Hank, quit being a pu$$y.

DrafterX User Profile	#19 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:08 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-18-2005 Posts: 98,536	If you're gonna play in Texas, you gotta have a fiddler...

DrMaddVibe User Profile	#20 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:08 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-21-2000 Posts: 55,394	JadeRose wrote: I heard one the other day that I liked.....band called Houndmouth out of Southern Indiana. Liked them quite a bit.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQ72yB4vHc Reminds me a bit of Kurt Vile.

DrMaddVibe

#21 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:11 AM EST

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Hank_The_Tank wrote:

I just wanted it to be known that I wasn't actually trying to offend people...just not the reason for my post.

Here is what my OP should have said:

Country music sucks! That is all.

You don't offend me...at all.

Just like I've been telling ya, ya come across as having blinders on. I can't work with that. You're on yer own and that's the way you want to stay. Good luck.

"No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee."

Choooch User Profile	#22 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:11 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-30-2016 Posts: 195	Waylon Jennings Willie Nelson Merle Haggard Hank Williams Sturgill Simpson Jamey Johnson David Allen Coe George F***in Jones! Hank 3

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#23 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:12 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	I will check out all of the songs listed above...I will keep an open mind.

DrMaddVibe User Profile	#24 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:13 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-21-2000 Posts: 55,394	Choooch wrote: Waylon Jennings Willie Nelson Merle Haggard Hank Williams Sturgill Simpson Jamey Johnson David Allen Coe George F***in Jones! Hank 3 Marty Robbins Kris Kristofferson Glenn Miller Glen Campbell Bocephus

teedubbya User Profile	#25 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:17 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-14-2003 Posts: 95,637	Hank likes Dave Matthews and thinks Celine should be a single name or symbol like prince since she is a genius and stuff.

Choooch User Profile	#26 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:20 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 04-30-2016 Posts: 195	Tell me Lee Ann Womack's "A Little Past Little Rock" isn't ear candy. Tell me Merle and Willie's version of "Pancho and Lefty" isn't a great song. Dolly Parton's "Jolene" and "Early Morning Breeze". Those songs are almost as pretty as you. :)

dstieger User Profile	#27 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:23 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 06-22-2007 Posts: 10,889	Not Glen Campbell, please.....he doesn't need to be on that list....with the exception maybe of the Lineman song, I don't think he gets anywhere near the others on that list...except maybe Kristofferson...:)

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#28 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:24 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	teedubbya wrote: Hank likes Dave Matthews and thinks Celine should be a single name or symbol like prince since she is a genius and stuff. Not a big Celine fan...sorry to disappoint. Her music doesn't hurt my ears like country music does, but just not a fan.

jjanecka User Profile	#29 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:29 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-08-2015 Posts: 4,334	Prayers sent

DrMaddVibe User Profile	#30 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:29 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-21-2000 Posts: 55,394	dstieger wrote: Not Glen Campbell, please.....he doesn't need to be on that list....with the exception maybe of the Lineman song, I don't think he gets anywhere near the others on that list...except maybe Kristofferson...:) Harsh...suppose you don't like Mickey Gilley, Mac Davis, Clint Black, Chet Atkins and George Strait?

jjanecka User Profile	#31 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:33 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-08-2015 Posts: 4,334	Oh hell what about Tom T Hall, Johnny Horton, and Marty Robbins. That's the Country music storytellin trinity. And somehow ole Doug Kershaw bullchitted his way in getting some symphony to play "Momma's got the Knowhow"with him..

DrafterX User Profile	#32 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:40 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-18-2005 Posts: 98,536	Axl wrote those stories man....

dstieger User Profile	#33 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:42 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 06-22-2007 Posts: 10,889	DrMaddVibe wrote: Harsh...suppose you don't like Mickey Gilley, Mac Davis, Clint Black, Chet Atkins and George Strait? Mac Davis? As a songwriter for others, sure.....but 'baby baby don't get hooked on me', alone, disqualifies him from such a discussion, also....didn't Campbell steal his wife or something?

jjanecka User Profile	#34 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:44 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-08-2015 Posts: 4,334	Don't matter if he stole his wife or not, he would made millions writing bout it.

DrafterX User Profile	#35 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:44 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 10-18-2005 Posts: 98,536	Thought Campbell ran off with Bobby Magee....

teedubbya User Profile	#36 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:52 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
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Stinkdyr User Profile	#37 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 11:52 AM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 06-16-2009 Posts: 9,948	The only country performers I like are: Lyle Lovett The Kang Slim Jim and the Cowgirls J.Cash (is he in this genre?)

Howie22 User Profile	#38 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:02 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 02-14-2016 Posts: 24	Sturgill Simpson, Chris Stapleton, and Jason Isbell are the modern country songwriting masters in my mind Isbell isn't as much country as the others, but that guy writes some powerful lyrics

JadeRose

#39 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:09 PM EST

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Townes Van Zant
Robert Earl Keen
Jerry Jeff Walker
Lyle Lovett
John Prine
Ray Wiley Hubbard
Guy Clark
Steve Goodman
Todd Snider
Amazing Rhythm Aces........

Open your mind, Son. Technically, every name above is "country" but I'm not sure I'd call ANY of them "country". It's just good American music.

I listened to Punk and hard rock when I was younger and I still love all that stuff, but the older I got and the more open-minded I got, I've grown to love these artists and listen to them a lot, along with the "classic country guys" like George Jones, Conway, Waylon, Willie, etc. And the thing is...a lot of those old boys (and gals) were just as "punk" as any of the stuff I listened to. These guys were or are the real deal. They didn't write songs about that life....they lived it.

teedubbya User Profile	#40 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:12 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-14-2003 Posts: 95,637	Jerry Scoggins, Lester Flatt, Earl Scruggs. Best collaboration and best song ever. Period.

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#41 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:29 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	Okay, so maybe I was referring to country music made in the last 30 years...never heard of any of these people you guys are listing.

JadeRose User Profile	#42 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:39 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 05-15-2008 Posts: 19,525	Hank_The_Tank wrote: Okay, so maybe I was referring to country music made in the last 30 years...never heard of any of these people you guys are listing. As a few of us have said.......open your mind. It's out there. The good stuff....the real stuff.......That garbage you are talking about is just that...garbage. But don't dismiss and entire genre because of the crap

teedubbya User Profile	#43 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:43 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-14-2003 Posts: 95,637	Hank thinks autotune is musical genius

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#44 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:48 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	teedubbya wrote: Hank thinks autotune is musical genius Not even close

99cobra2881 User Profile	#45 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:50 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-19-2013 Posts: 2,472	Wut happened to not making worthless posts?

teedubbya User Profile	#46 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 12:55 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 08-14-2003 Posts: 95,637	I heard hank is on team Bieber

jjanecka User Profile	#47 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 1:25 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 12-08-2015 Posts: 4,334	Here Hank, a primer for those not in the know... https://youtu.be/d7BOXMp7XlI

Hank_The_Tank User Profile	#48 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 2:11 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 11-15-2016 Posts: 3,677	99cobra2881 wrote: Wut happened to not making worthless posts? This is NOT worthless...this is pure GOLD!

Hank_The_Tank

#49 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 3:02 PM EST

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jjanecka wrote:

Here Hank, a primer for those not in the know...

https://youtu.be/d7BOXMp7XlI

That was hilarious. Good stuff!

So I started my "research" on the songs suggested. If there are other songs by the thousand artists list them, please post a Youtube link and I will check them out.

As a general though on all these songs, most of them I don't really consider country. More like folk. So most of them I could listen to but I would have to been in a perfect mood...like having a cigar by myself with no distractions. None of them I would just listen to for the heck of it.

Sunday Morning Coming Down - Don't consider this country, not horrid but pretty boring, would def have to be in the right mood to listen to this.

Outlaw 5hit - Same as above

Your Cheating Heart - slightly more country sounding but pretty boring. Again, falls in same category as above.

All you ever do is bring me down - a bit more country sounding, not a fan of the accordion at all, a bit too twangy for me, wouldn't listen to this on my own.

Fast as you - Not horrid, only slightly annoying, wouldn't choose to listen on my own, couldn't take many similar songs in a row.

Cody J - YAWN! A bit too twangy but kind of falls into the same category as the first song. Almost put me to sleep...literally.

The Dead South - Almost turned it off when he started whistling, liked the guy's voice but not so much the background music. It was more folk than country. I could listen to this without stabbing my ears with pencils.

Justin Cross - Not bad but not very country sounding, again more like folk music, a bit boring, add it to the list with the first one.

HandMouth - Eww....dumb lyrics...that was just plain bad.

A little past little rock - voice isn't overly country sounding, music was kind of annoying though. Not horrid but not all that good.

Pancho & Lefty - falls in the same category as the first song, singing was a little too twangy for my taste, but not much.

Jolene - eh, noting special in my mind, add to the same category as the first

Early Morning Breeze - same thoughts as Jolene

My takeaway is this...most older country isn't horrible but it isn't anything like the country music I can't stand. So I think my hatred for country music probably starts in the mid-80's and anything Garth Brooks and moving forward. In general I like folk music as it isn't very twangy. That twangy sound is what kills me.

That was as open minded as I get.

tamapatom User Profile	#50 Posted: Wed, Mar 22 2017, 5:44 PM EST Add this topic as a favorite Add this post as a favorite
Joined: 03-19-2015 Posts: 7,381	DrafterX wrote: What about Western..?? What kind of music do you usually have here, "We got both kinds, we got country and western" Asleep at the Wheel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifUaZQL8pc The Baboons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmnUayaQyBk Bottle Rockets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cm2XpmtJV8 Legendary shack shakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RznWJUkwXEM

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