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frankj1 Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 7:28 PM EST
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Boli CJ
Party Shorts
RASCC
RyJ C en C

if picking one box of the above, which would you select?

how much more would you pay if you could know it would be '12 or '13 vs not knowing (probably 16 is my guess).
Both sites have been reputable.

I guess it comes down to what you think is the gain in any of the above with age.

BTW, I am familiar with all of them, aged and fresh. Just soliciting opinions.

Thanks
bgz Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 7:45 PM EST
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RASCC, they're on sale.


EDIT:

LMFAO,

Apparently we're looking at the same sale...
clickbangdead Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 7:49 PM EST
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I've only had the Boli CJ recently, but from what I've experienced both them and the RyJ are pretty much good to go right away on newer boxes. The Party Shorts are so readily available I'd probably lean RASCC, either way though I wouldn't personally overvalue them just for being aged,, so maybe $20-30 premium over new stock. I dunno, I'm sure the FOGs will weigh in with more nuanced opinions shortly.
Burner02 Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 7:51 PM EST
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Party Shorts or Boli CJ.


Have to admit I have no experience with the RASCC or the RyJ.
bgz Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 7:53 PM EST
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RASCC are good, I haven't had them in a while though, might buy some seeing how they are on sale right now.
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 8:03 PM EST
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I like them all quite a bit

rascc's with known age are way more than the others, but younger box is in line with all the others

best deal for money and age seems to be the C en C 2012 or 2013. leaning that way so far...there will be no further aging this purchase.
Only concern is might they be past peak after 5 years?

Such a problem! Wish they were all like this.
euodias Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 9:11 PM EST
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Not likely to be past their peak. I'm loving my 2013 vintage ccs right now, and might prefer them if the price difference wasn't crazy and the quality was good. One worry I have with buying old stock from stores is that you are probably getting the stuff that was already picked over for the last couple of years. But I don't know your source, so i cant really say.
SRH1 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 9:14 PM EST
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RASCC and Party Shorts both age quite well. Have no experience with well rested Boli CJ or RyJ C en C.
You might seek reviews on specific years. For example, a friend recently gave me a well aged SCdLH Principe he picked up at a premium price and it was just ok bit didn't compare to current production Principes. He too found the 'freshies' far superior to the aged box he paid a premium for.
Occasionally aged cigars are available or even on 'sale' because they weren't particularly good when fresh and have been sitting around in warehouses.
Age rarely improve a bad cigar......
Also....Storage conditions are sometimes suspect (but not always) from 'grey' market vendors.....
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 9:25 PM EST
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thanks all.

probably gonna go with 2012 or 2013 c en c...$108 shipped.

can't stop thinking about the deal Whistlebritches brought to my attention a few years ago for these, 2 boxes for $140!
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 9:27 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
thanks all.

probably gonna go with 2012 or 2013 c en c...$108 shipped.

can't stop thinking about the deal Whistlebritches brought to my attention a few years ago for these, 2 boxes for $140!


Inflation sucks :(
MACS Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 9:32 PM EST
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I've had all. Can't go wrong with party shorts, but I'd choose the RASCC.

Best minuto out there, IMO.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, May 2 2017, 11:24 PM EST
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I'm just not a Party Short fan, but that's just my tastes.

#8 was good advise. Those RyJs don't seem to be as different year to year as some others and the price is always good. Love me some Bolis.
hnixon12 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:33 AM EST
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Skip them all Frank, and get the Monte Edmundo's on sale....now you are talking LOL
shaun341 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:36 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I'm just not a Party Short fan, but that's just my tastes.

#8 was good advise. Those RyJs don't seem to be as different year to year as some others and the price is always good. Love me some Bolis.



I agree with this, also not a party short fan and haven't had a Boli CJ but do love the marca. Out of those 4 I would probably go this route regardless of age.

RyJ C en C
Boli CJ (just because I love the others from Boli)
RASCC
Party Shorts

I think the RyJ are still a solid price when bought in 2 box deal.

Really though you should take advantage of those Alec Bradley deals on there.Sarcasm
burnem2 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 6:54 AM EST
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2013 RyJ crop was better than 2012 IMHO.
Stinkdyr Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 8:32 AM EST
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These are elitist problems!!

ram27bat
dstieger Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 8:49 AM EST
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RASCC...by a very wide margin...even if fresh, just to lay them down. 5 y.o. RASCC may be worth double the other 3 fresh





Party Shorts - very good...but distinct enough that I need to pair them with appropriate time/mood....hard to explain
RyJ C en C - always good; very consistent...never outstanding

Boli CJ - sorta like RyJ above, but a lot edgier...just never makes me sit up and say 'wow'
tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 9:14 AM EST
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Oh.
I thought this was a thread about motorbike engine displacement.
bgz Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 9:53 AM EST
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Thanks frank...

Just bought 3 of the 4.

I spend more money cause of this damn site.
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 12:42 PM EST
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burnem2 wrote:
2013 RyJ crop was better than 2012 IMHO.

that seems to be the word...

though rascc's are my favorite, it looks like I'll order the 2013 c en c's.

this box ain't gonna get any older once it's here. all will go this summer so at least I'll get some that have had the age thing taken care of.

Love the boli's but have had my share of plugged when young/middle aged

love party shorts but have had a zillion of all ages

appreciate the opinions.
NapalmMan67 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 2:31 PM EST
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RASCC would be my vote, always enjoyed them the most of all you listed.


I always seem to miss the RASS when on sale and I really enjoy those.
rfenst Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 3:29 PM EST
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RyJ
shaun341 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 4:07 PM EST
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NapalmMan67 wrote:
RASCC would be my vote, always enjoyed them the most of all you listed.


I always seem to miss the RASS when on sale and I really enjoy those.


Dang they were just on sale last month to, the RASS that is. Cabs and when they ran out boxes.
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 4:51 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
RyJ

yeah gonna do the 2013 c en c's

you agree Robert?
cameroon Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:05 PM EST
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ICYMI the 16 stocks have SUCKED with rampant underfilling so beyond a doubt buy 12-13
cameroon Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:08 PM EST
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MUR 13 for preference, that is a great code
rfenst Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:42 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
yeah gonna do the 2013 c en c's

you agree Robert?


Total agreement.
grmcooper Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 5:53 PM EST
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My opinion is send them all to me. I like Boli pc, psd4, Sancho Panza thanks to Wheel Nice smoke for the price. Some others but I cant Think of them at the moment. I haven't had a cigar in over 5 years.
Whistlebritches Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:03 PM EST
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Frank buy the RyJ's.........I'll send you some Party Shorts from 07 and some RASCC from 08.Both good but the RyJ CenC's are better IMHO........regardless of box code date.
ypetryna Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:15 PM EST
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Unsure if it was just me but last RyJ cdc i got averaged 1 outta 5 plugged cigars. It was a '15 box year i picked last year. But the 4 others were worth the plugged one
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:24 PM EST
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Frank buy the RyJ's.........I'll send you some Party Shorts from 07 and some RASCC from 08.Both good but the RyJ CenC's are better IMHO........regardless of box code date.

first time I had the c en c's was when you told me about the 2 fer $140...shoulda done that twice!
ypetryna Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:26 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
first time I had the c en c's was when you told me about the 2 fer $140...shoulda done that twice!


Just outta curiousity, how long ago was that deal?
euodias Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:43 PM EST
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couple years at this point
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, May 3 2017, 10:45 PM EST
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found an empty box just now, date says 2012, assuming it is from that two-fer,I'd say 2013...knowing that site.
haven't bought there in a few years so it may be right.
hnixon12 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 5:18 AM EST
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Hey Frank, once again, Edmundo's are on sale!! skip all this LOL
burnem2 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 10:10 AM EST
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Howard loves him some Monty Edmundos and stuff!!
NapalmMan67 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 10:57 AM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Dang they were just on sale last month to, the RASS that is. Cabs and when they ran out boxes.



Yeah, my luck prevails! Frying pan
frankj1 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 12:13 PM EST
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hnixon12 wrote:
Hey Frank, once again, Edmundo's are on sale!! skip all this LOL

great smokes for sure.

This purchase isn't necessarily for my all time favorites, was just looking to fill a desire in that size range. No longer a "collector", no stash any more, but decided to have a nice aged box of smaller cigars that I know and love for the Summer...if they make it past Spring that is!
frankj1 Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 12:54 PM EST
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one last thing...

no none knows the value of the factory/location code anymore, do they?
Stuff like GUT or TUO, or PUM which are my current choices.

a while back there was less mystery, but I may be out of the loop currently.

Is anyone up to speed anymore? Not that it will matter cuz I'm gonna order anyway, but I am curious...kinda intellectually.
hnixon12 Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 12:55 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
great smokes for sure.

This purchase isn't necessarily for my all time favorites, was just looking to fill a desire in that size range. No longer a "collector", no stash any more, but decided to have a nice aged box of smaller cigars that I know and love for the Summer...if they make it past Spring that is!



What's aging? LOL I am a minority, i just smokem'...i may not be here tmrw ya know? Boli's and Monte's! my favs!!
hnixon12 Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 12:56 PM EST
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burnem2 wrote:
Howard loves him some Monty Edmundos and stuff!!



Sure do Ernie!! whoop.....thanks again for the trade my friend...the Boli Corona G's are yum!
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 12:58 PM EST
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Send me one of each and I will tell you which to get.
shaun341 Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 1:18 PM EST
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NapalmMan67 wrote:
Yeah, my luck prevails! Frying pan



I almost bit on them but am not a fan of the RASS really or I would hook you up since I owe you a vet bomb still.
shaun341 Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 1:22 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
one last thing...

no none knows the value of the factory/location code anymore, do they?
Stuff like GUT or TUO, or PUM which are my current choices.

a while back there was less mystery, but I may be out of the loop currently.

Is anyone up to speed anymore? Not that it will matter cuz I'm gonna order anyway, but I am curious...kinda intellectually.


I haven't done a lot of research on the factory codes but from what I understand they change often now and it is really hard to know where they came now.
bgz Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 2:21 PM EST
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hnixon12 wrote:
What's aging? LOL I am a minority, i just smokem'...i may not be here tmrw ya know? Boli's and Monte's! my favs!!



You're not the only one, I don't intentionally age anything either. I like 'em young.
ypetryna Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 2:58 PM EST
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anyone interested in a RASCC split?
Stinkdyr Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 3:41 PM EST
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ypetryna wrote:
anyone interested in a RASCC split?


I am in. PM sent.
Frank can vouch for me.
Or any of the other MAholes.

Herfing
ypetryna Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 4:07 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
I am in. PM sent.
Frank can vouch for me.
Or any of the other MAholes.

Herfing


what do you boys say, he a worthy spliter?
gummy jones Offline
#49 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 5:25 PM EST
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Rascc split yea
frankj1 Offline
#50 Posted: Thu, May 4 2017, 5:44 PM EST
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ypetryna wrote:
what do you boys say, he a worthy spliter?

he's like a zillionair

and I'm like a genius, so take a chance.
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