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Comey don't play dat...
DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
...didn't Trump say that Comey had a lot of guts for doing what he did about the Clinton email investigation during the campaign?

...now, by firing Comey, Trump appears to support Clinton's argument that Comey screwed up and affected her chances of winning the Presidency...thanks President Trump, for actually trying to be bi-partisan and doing something some Dems demanded that you do when you were first elected...

...but why appoint as interim the dude who actually led the FBI's investigation of Clinton's emails? and doesn't this move put a taint on how you achieved the victory?

...of course, this has nothing to do with Comey's very public leadership of, and statements about, the FBI's investigation into whether there is a connection between people in Trump's campaign and Russian interference in the presidential election...right? With the DOJ already in Trump's pocket, and by appointing a loyalist to head the FBI, he can bag the FBI's Russian influence investigation, and contain the two investigatory agencies that discover evidence and provide it to the congressional committees...this kinda confirms there is a "there" there, but now we may never know, one way or the other...

...as our politics drift more to the Russian and banana republic style, many Americans are satisfied...



Maybe the next Pres will clean house... even then I'm sure not everyone will be happy... But the Pres is suppose to be able to choose his staff right..?? Think
Mr. Jones Offline
#52 Posted:
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The SWAMP JUST LOST

IT's

P.L.U.G....

dat' bein' "da' KOOMSTER"

I HEARD PUTIN FLEW IN TO D.C....
ALL'S SECRET LIKE...
DRESSED UP LIKE A JANITOR, put on a wig and dark sunglasses....entered @ the loading dock of the
J. Edgar Hoover BUILDING and pushed
A CART FULL OF EMPTY VODKA BOTTLE BOXES INTO COMEY's office and offered to help
Him "pack up"...

James didn't even recognize him...
Then,
Tipped him with a fake TIMOTHY GIETNER
Mistake $100 BILL ....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Al said taint...
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted:
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OhMyGod
frankj1 Offline
#55 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Al said taint...

I know!
frankj1 Offline
#56 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I will concur that it looks and smells fishy. But can we please agree that, regardless of party affiliation, the clowns in DC are making screwing the American public their top priority?

WTF is going on in this country?

of course we can agree on that.

I am a little surprised by the silence or Hillary deflections on the vast right who claimed they didn't even support Trump. Absolutely zero belief in the possibility that where there's a fish smell, there's usually a rotting fish.
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted:
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Hillary did smell pretty bad. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#58 Posted:
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true, true.
one of the reasons I did not vote for her.
SteveS Offline
#59 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
... I did not vote for her.

NO? ... well, I can't imagine you voted for the Donald ... which means (wait for it) you and voted alike? (which is to say, for neither of them) ... who'd a' thunk it?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#60 Posted:
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Taint...
frankj1 Offline
#61 Posted:
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SteveS wrote:
NO? ... well, I can't imagine you voted for the Donald ... which means (wait for it) you and voted alike? (which is to say, for neither of them) ... who'd a' thunk it?

I voted Libertarian, not cuz I even liked him or thought he had a remote shot, but because I have little faith that either major party will offer up much better in years to come. And I am not a line item libtard, but don't quote me, I have a reputation to uphold!

Living in Massachusetts, Hill did not need my vote, Donald had no shot here, so a vote for either would have been meaningless...but I figured if the Third Party could garner enough votes, they would get matching $$$ and a seat on the televised debates in four years.

I tried to convince fellow MAholes to follow my logic, but I failed.
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#62 Posted:
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NA NA NA NA
NA NA NA NA
HEY, HEEYYY
GOODBYE!!!!
delta1 Offline
#63 Posted:
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If frank taint a Democrat and he taint a Republican, so ... does he smell a little like both?

I reluctantly voted for Hildog...between the two flawed candidates, she was clearly the much more experienced, knowledgeable, prepared and suitable for the job, imho...but I don't think the past three and a half months would've been as interesting.

If she was President, she wouldn't have accomplished much, given the GOP hold on Congress...there'd still be a vacancy on the Supreme Court...Obamacare would be stronger due to consistent funding of Medicaid by the executive branch...GOP House would've passed at least three bills to repeal Obamacare...EPA would still be protecting the American people...we'd still be talking Russian interference... Comey wouldn't have been fired because he'd be investigating Russian ties to Trump and his campaign... the House would be doing email investigations, Benghazi investigations, angling for a reason to impeach Hillary...we may've had a govt. shutdown...politics as usual like when Obama was President...
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted:
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and she woulda taken everybody's guns away... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#65 Posted:
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nuh uhh...
DrafterX Offline
#66 Posted:
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well, that's what I heard.... Mellow
MACS Offline
#67 Posted:
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Can anyone tell me exactly what the Russians did to interfere with our elections?

Voter fraud? Hack our computers and change votes? What did they do? HOW did they interfere?
rfenst Offline
#68 Posted:
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The FBI Director's job is supposed to be a ten year stint
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Hillary did smell pretty bad. Mellow


Just her crotch?
delta1 Offline
#70 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Can anyone tell me exactly what the Russians did to interfere with our elections?

Voter fraud? Hack our computers and change votes? What did they do? HOW did they interfere?



As far as the investigations have revealed, it was primarily a widespread disinformation campaign, intended to sway voters away from Clinton and towards Trump. They also committed the cyber crime of stealing private info from Clinton's, Podesta's and the DNC's computers. The interference effort created many social media sites with false and negative stories about Clinton; developed botnets to steer people looking for info on many search engines about the election to sources that contained only negative info, some fake/false, about Clinton; staffed internet political sites with trolls to push Trump and attack Clinton.

Hard to measure how effective this campaign was, but if it was able to sway a percentage of undecided or independent voters, it's possible that it could've tipped the election to Trump in close states. The numbers shown in the polls indicated that both candidates had nearly equal numbers of diehard supporters, but that Clinton was expected to lure more independent voters. The opposite happened...
MACS Offline
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Disinformation and misinformation... negative stuff, like the MSM was spewing about Trump the entire time?

So they got a taste of their own medicine and didn't like it? How unfortunate.

Hacking their accounts would have been much ado about nothing... if there was nothing there... but whataya know, there was!!
delta1 Offline
#72 Posted:
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Accepting as a fact of life, or minimizing activities that another country has taken to influence our elections seems like a slippery slope, and just a few years ago would be considered preposterous, beyond the pale...

So putting "America First" is OK if it comes with Russian dressing?

What if North Korea, or China, or Iran, or Mexico, or Israel, or Saudi Arabia decides to behave like Russia during our Presidential elections...

Or is globalization so advanced now that we should accept any strategy by any foreign nation to interfere with our elections if our preferred candidate wins?


We don't know if the Russians were developing software to attack our voting machines to manipulate the totals (I'm guessing they are, as well as other countries), which seems like the rational progression of their strategy. Our intelligence agencies haven't provided any evidence of that, but doesn't the possibility demand that we investigate it? We should at least demand that our digital voting machines have a fool-proof paper trail...
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted:
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Well, if voting machines were online maybe... but theh are not... maybe the Russians should offer BigMacs and beers next time... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#74 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Well, if voting machines were online maybe... but theh are not... maybe the Russians should offer Big Marx and brewskis next time... Mellow


hmmm...
DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted:
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Laugh
Speyside Offline
#76 Posted:
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Geez drafter, they would never offer brewskis, they would offer vodka.
DrafterX Offline
#77 Posted:
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True.. true. .. and dried fishes.... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#78 Posted:
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they really are like a idiot
DrafterX Offline
#79 Posted:
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Ya... Russians suck... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#80 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Ya... Russians suck... Mellow

I saw their boobs once
DrafterX Offline
#81 Posted:
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Some of them do have nice ones.... TW seemed awfully fond of Putin's. ..
Mellow
MACS Offline
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I still don't know how the American voters were "influenced" aside from having dirt on the DNC exposed.

We voted. The electoral votes were counted. One of two extremely flawed candidates was elected.
frankj1 Offline
#83 Posted:
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Comey wasn't fired because of investigating American voters being influenced by Russia.
DrafterX Offline
#84 Posted:
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I heard he said somethin about Trumps Momma.... Mellow
Mr. Jones Offline
#85 Posted:
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Get it together boyzzzz...

OPEN YOUR EYEBALLS &
See the "BLIND MONKEY TRAIL"
I've been exposing on this discount cigar auction site for years...

COMEY WAS FIRED BECAUSE OF HE OVERSAW AND HEADED THE WORST FELON CRIMINAL DEBACLE IN U.S. HISTORY... IT IS CALLED THE S.S.G. DIVISION
( SECRET SURVEILLANCE GROUP/ SPECIAL SURVEILLANCE GROUP) OF THE FBI..

THE C.R.I.M.E. IS MULTIPLE FIRST DEGREE MURDERS

BY FBI-SSG "ORGANIZED GANGSTALKING"

PERFORMED AND DIRECTED BY THEM AND EARLY RELEASED FELON
CRIMINALS ( under their control and threats of reincarceration if they did not break the law as forced under duress by FBI-SSG AGENTS)

Just remember what I have said for over 2+ years
About these sick *****ING murderers who have run totally AMUCK FOR OVER A DECADE SINCE "911" on 2001 And the Patriot Act was passed.

A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING IS
H.A.P.P.E.N.I.N.G. THIS YEAR...
"COINTELPRO II"
and many many FBI AGENTS ARE GOING
TO JAIL....
MY OLD COLLEGE BUDDY ...

RETIRED LIEUTENANT COMMANDER
CHARLES SWIFT, ESQ. EXTRAORDINAIRE....

WILL SEND THEIR SORRY AZZSES THERE BY THE DOZENS IF NOT...
HUNDREDS...

MARK MY WORDS
delta1 Offline
#86 Posted:
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^^^ Hope they can finish the Russian investigation before that, Mr. Jones



MACS wrote:
I still don't know how the American voters were "influenced" aside from having dirt on the DNC exposed.

We voted. The electoral votes were counted. One of two extremely flawed candidates was elected.




http://www.snopes.com/2017/04/18/russia-us-fake-news/

Gotta stop looking at the forest and look into the trees... If people in key states, like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio, where the winning margin was razor thin, were getting bombarded with fake news stories and false claims about Clinton, unable to find any positive news source about Clinton, getting only positive stuff on Trump... a potential Clinton vote theoretically can become one for Trump...just a few thousand makes a difference...

I don't know how many votes were turned or how effective the campaign was, but I do believe it is worth investigating and made public so that American faith in the democratic process is restored...we must only accept lies from other Americans during our elections...we don't take any foreign BS!!!
MACS Offline
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I believe 98.2% of people had their minds made up, Al.

Here are the facts: Hillary could not conceive of any way she could lose. Trump's team focused on winning the electoral votes they needed to win the election and they did.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

Snopes is like myth busters for disproving stupid internet hoaxes... I wouldn't trust them as far as I could spit when it comes to politics. Much like the MSM...

delta1 Offline
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Not 98.2%...more than 8 million people voted for someone other than Trump, about 6% of the electorate. In close states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where Trump won by 11,000; 44,000; and 23,000 votes, interference could've made a difference. There is no definitive way that I know of to show that it did...

I'm not saying Trump didn't win the election: he did, and he is our President. Even when the proof of Russian interference is presented to the American people, it will not change the results of the election nor will it delegitimize the election results. But we should determine their activities to disrupt our elections so that we can prevent them from doing it again, and also to exact some proportionate punitive measures as a consequence...

The Daily Caller is a right wing conservative publisher...
Abrignac Offline
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delta1 wrote:
^^^ Hope they can finish the Russian investigation before that, Mr. Jones







http://www.snopes.com/2017/04/18/russia-us-fake-news/

Gotta stop looking at the forest and look into the trees... If people in key states, like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Ohio, where the winning margin was razor thin, were getting bombarded with fake news stories and false claims about Clinton, unable to find any positive news source about Clinton, getting only positive stuff on Trump... a potential Clinton vote theoretically can become one for Trump...just a few thousand makes a difference...

I don't know how many votes were turned or how effective the campaign was, but I do believe it is worth investigating and made public so that American faith in the democratic process is restored...we must only accept lies from other Americans during our elections...we don't take any foreign BS!!!



That's a crock of chit.

I'm sure just as many people where scared into voting for Hilary based on BS her surrogates put out about Trump.


Obama turned a bunch of voters who had voted Republican in the past. Trump turned them back. And quit blaming Trump for the Democrats failures. The crap that was supposedly leaked by the Russians where things Hillary and her camp did. If they wouldn't have played fast and loose with secrets there would have been nothing to release.

One should lay the blame squarely at their feet for producing the crap to begin with. Had Donna Bazille not given her the questions before her debate with Sanders, and had. It the DNC colluded to ruin Sanders, Hillary may not have even made it on the November ballot.

frankj1 Offline
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I heard that President Sanders was gonna fire Colonel Sanders
MACS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I heard that President Sanders was gonna fire Colonel Sanders


Well, duh... Popeye's > KFC.
frankj1 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Well, duh... Popeye's > KFC.

I'm not good wif chikens
DrafterX Offline
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You should call Bloody. .. Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Not 98.2%...more than 8 million people voted for someone other than Trump, about 6% of the electorate. In close states like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where Trump won by 11,000; 44,000; and 23,000 votes, interference could've made a difference. There is no definitive way that I know of to show that it did...

I'm not saying Trump didn't win the election: he did, and he is our President. Even when the proof of Russian interference is presented to the American people, it will not change the results of the election nor will it delegitimize the election results. But we should determine their activities to disrupt our elections so that we can prevent them from doing it again, and also to exact some proportionate punitive measures as a consequence...

The Daily Caller is a right wing conservative publisher...




And yet, we didn't see any armed White dudes @ election precincts keeping Blacks or hispanics away from the polls did we? And IF you really want to ensure there's no election fraud....Proof of Citizenship with picture ID should be a minimum.
Why proof of citizenship? Because too many sanctuary cities across the country are allowing ILLEGAL ALIENS to secure a drivers license
which should also be ILLEGAL. IMHO if you came here Illegally and remain here Illegally there should be NO VOICE to represent these people as anything other than Law Breakers.
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