I had the stout when Lost and Found first came out. Once I realized they were just old label cigars that didn't sell and they were repackaging and asking a premium on them I refused to buy another product from them and Caldwell. Not into deceiving people with gimmicks or spending my hard earned money on those that do. From what I understand there were a bunch that were confirmed to be 2007 Camacho Liberties and other Camacho labels as well.