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Johnney Depp
rfenst Offline
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Outrageous.
DrafterX Offline
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Bassard... like almost everything he's done.. He's even an honorary member of my tribe... he's pissed me off tho.. Not talking
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Bassard... like almost everything he's done.. He's even an honorary member of my tribe... he's pissed me off tho.. Not talking


What tribe is that?
DrafterX Offline
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Comanche... Mellow
Stinkdyr Offline
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I was thinking Arapaho.

Think
DrafterX Offline
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he was abducted into the tribe after the Lone Ranger movie... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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The average Comanche was about 5'4' and weighed a buck fiddy...they were runts who were demons on horseback with bows and arrows...according to the great book, "Empire of the Summer Moon"
DrafterX Offline
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Not the modern day ones.... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
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I've got the book.. I need to sit down and read it soon... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
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Quanah Parker was my grandmother's grandfather... she lived with him at one time... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
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Well I guess I can destroy my copy of Don Juan DeMarco. Honestly any movie he's in I pretty much will never watch.
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Unacceptable, I do not like him, or vote for him, but he is my president and deserves the respect every president deserves. This hate has to stop.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Depp is an actor. He should be investigated over this.

The biggest problem I had was the audience cheering, goes to what the democrat party has come to.
Mr. Jones Offline
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OK

I am in the mountains with NO TV...
ONLY PBS RADIO NEWS...
THEY SAID NOTHING ABOUT
JOHNNY DEPP

WHAT DID HE DO OR SAY?

I think Depp is a good actor...he's really great with good material...
BLOW
DONNIE BRASCO
FEAR AND LOATHING
MANY MORE...

but these *****ING SORRY AZZ PIRIATES OF THE CARRIBEAN CLONES SUCK DONKEY DICKKKS
AND JUST PAY FOR HIS DRUG, BOOZE, STRANGE GASH, AND HUSH MONEY WHEN HE ALLEGEDLEY
HITS WOMEN'S.... HE does stupid movies to pay BILLS.
delta1 Offline
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Dems are becoming unhinged and insane, like GOP when Obama was president...fortunately, some political lunatics are bad shots or there could have been some dead people at the Pizzagate restaurant and at the baseball field...

We all have to stop this crazy talk about violence: actor assassinating the President... 2nd Amendment friends will take care of Hillary...dreaming of blowing up the WH...beat the crap outta him...shoot somebody on 5th Avenue... suck on my machine gun...

We all have to get outraged, even when idiots on our side of the political spectrum does it...without getting mad as hell and doing something...
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Johnny Depp is an a$$wipe
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Dems are becoming unhinged and insane, like GOP when Obama was president...fortunately, some political lunatics are bad shots or there could have been some dead people at the Pizzagate restaurant and at the baseball field...

We all have to stop this crazy talk about violence: actor assassinating the President... 2nd Amendment friends will take care of Hillary...dreaming of blowing up the WH...beat the crap outta him...shoot somebody on 5th Avenue... suck on my machine gun...

We all have to get outraged, even when idiots on our side of the political spectrum does it...without getting mad as hell and doing something...


I like how you slipped the "2nd amendment friends will take care of Hillary" quote in there.

The actual quote is this:
"...Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick --if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know. But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day, if -- if -- Hillary gets to put her judges in."


Unlike many of Trump's quotes, this doesn't need interpretation. But even a reasonable person would understand that Trump is saying that Hillary's Judges could never take their guns. Short of prying them from their dead fingers.

Holding onto your guns and being ready to fight to keep them is a far cry from shooting Hillary. Which is what you're insinuating.

Of course, the mainstream media told you that's what he meant.
Again.

DrafterX Offline
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Those Bassards..!! Mad
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We should all be proud
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These are the lefty role models and msn darlings
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rfenst wrote:
What tribe is that?





Sukalottadeek
DrafterX Offline
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Mad
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GOP never came unhinged over Obama... Alot of people thought he was gonna get assassinated because he is black but no one said that he should ever be assassinated. Huge difference.
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rfenst wrote:
What tribe is that?

The Wherethefukahwees..............There is a motorcycle club in NH that uses that name and patch
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tailgater wrote:
I like how you slipped the "2nd amendment friends will take care of Hillary" quote in there.

The actual quote is this:
"...Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick --if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know. But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day, if -- if -- Hillary gets to put her judges in."


Unlike many of Trump's quotes, this doesn't need interpretation. But even a reasonable person would understand that Trump is saying that Hillary's Judges could never take their guns. Short of prying them from their dead fingers.

Holding onto your guns and being ready to fight to keep them is a far cry from shooting Hillary. Which is what you're insinuating.

Of course, the mainstream media told you that's what he meant.
Again.




Those mainstream media people sound like a f'd up group.
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tailgater wrote:
I like how you slipped the "2nd amendment friends will take care of Hillary" quote in there.

The actual quote is this:
"...Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish, the Second Amendment. By the way, and if she gets to pick --if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know. But I'll tell you what, that will be a horrible day, if -- if -- Hillary gets to put her judges in."


Unlike many of Trump's quotes, this doesn't need interpretation. But even a reasonable person would understand that Trump is saying that Hillary's Judges could never take their guns. Short of prying them from their dead fingers.

Holding onto your guns and being ready to fight to keep them is a far cry from shooting Hillary. Which is what you're insinuating.

Of course, the mainstream media told you that's what he meant.
Again.




You can interpret Trump however you like, tail, but Hillary has never said or done anything to abolish the Second Amendment, so he started with a provocative lie...which is not unusual for him...and there isn't a judge out there that is advocating abolishing the Second Amendment...another provocative lie...both lies intended to motivate hatred against Hillary among his supporters, one of whom may be a lunatic 2nd Amendment guy who may "do something"

Here's my interpretation, and I didn't need anyone to splain it to me: Trump is like a school yard bully telling the slow kids "that b*tch said she's gonna get a strong friend to stick a broom up all ya'alls azzes...gonna be terrible when that happens...unless someone does something..."
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I think we all know hill dog is a closet submissive for HUUUUUUUUUUMA.
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bgz wrote:
Those mainstream media people sound like a f'd up group.


Your impressions are accurate ...
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delta1 wrote:
You can interpret Trump however you like, tail, but Hillary has never said or done anything to abolish the Second Amendment, so he started with a provocative lie...which is not unusual for him...and there isn't a judge out there that is advocating abolishing the Second Amendment...another provocative lie...both lies intended to motivate hatred against Hillary among his supporters, one of whom may be a lunatic 2nd Amendment guy who may "do something"

Here's my interpretation, and I didn't need anyone to splain it to me: Trump is like a school yard bully telling the slow kids "that b*tch said she's gonna get a strong friend to stick a broom up all ya'alls azzes...gonna be terrible when that happens...unless someone does something..."



Hillary has been on the forefront calling more gun control. Which if she gets her way, wouldn't that be same thing as abolishing the 2nd amendment. We also know Hillary makes no bones that she has public and private positions. Would her private position be more extreme than her public one?
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jjanecka wrote:
GOP never came unhinged over Obama...


Lol
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Riots in da streets..,?? Celebritys calling for burning the White House and assassination..?? No, that didn't happen with Obama... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Riots in da streets..,?? Celebritys calling for burning the White House and assassination..?? No, that didn't happen with Obama... Mellow

And of course if that HAD happened it would have been because Obama's detractors were racists, not that they simply didn't like his policies.
DrafterX Offline
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True... true... Mellow
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A talented actor...made many great movies and turned in great memorable scenes...now, living WAAAAY above his means and wants to torpedo his livelihood by likening himself to John Wilkes Booth? Way to line those pockets Johnny.
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SteveS wrote:
Johnny Depp is an a$$wipe


+1. And I could care less what any actor/musician/model/etc says on political issues. fog
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Abrignac wrote:
Hillary has been on the forefront calling more gun control. Which if she gets her way, wouldn't that be same thing as abolishing the 2nd amendment. We also know Hillary makes no bones that she has public and private positions. Would her private position be more extreme than her public one?



definition ;...Abolish: formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution).
synonyms: put an end to, get rid of, scrap, end, stop, terminate, ax, eradicate, eliminate, exterminate, destroy, annihilate, stamp out, obliterate, wipe out, extinguish, quash, expunge, extirpate;


I don't see "control" in there...so ...no abolish and control are not the same, except if you say it long enough some people will believe it...
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delta1 wrote:
definition ;...Abolish: formally put an end to (a system, practice, or institution).
synonyms: put an end to, get rid of, scrap, end, stop, terminate, ax, eradicate, eliminate, exterminate, destroy, annihilate, stamp out, obliterate, wipe out, extinguish, quash, expunge, extirpate;


I don't see "control" in there...so ...no abolish and control are not the same, except if you say it long enough some people will believe it...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of3uhaOl76s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvCSNy_0s3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw0-yQz5yfY

That lying bitch demonizes the NRA because she needs a strawman to carry out her agenda. She's not pro-guns, pro 2nd Amendment nor is she advocating the use of having a gun for whatever reason.

Are you still carrying the water for that lying bitch? Seriously? Why are you invested in protecting whatever she wants you to say? America saw right through her. She's always been a liar and a sneak. ALWAYS. Thinking there's a shred of decency in her, her husband and their marriage is a fallacy that is easily picked apart by their own words, actions and deeds.

I'd pick someone worthy of devotion to serve than crooked Hillary. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Charlie Manson...anyone other than her. Starting with the Watergate hearings with her unethical behavior, to white water land deals, insider stock trading, backroom healthcare deals as First Lady, Benghazi, and her use of a private server as well as rigging an election should all serve as reminders as to why you should NEVER be some public arbitrator of a Clinton...EVER.
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I watched all three, and did not hear her say she wanted to totally abolish the 2nd Amendment: she said she didn't think we should have weapons permit laws that allow people to openly carry military style assault weapons with high capacity clips (this on a web-site that can't spell IMPERIALIST); she spoke about other gun control measures like back-ground checks to prevent mentally disturbed people from buying guns....she spoke of limits and controls to the 2nd Amendment-not abolish...yet, in all three clips, narrators claim she wants to abolish guns...

I'm not a fan of Hillary... she is a politician who can't seem to connect with the average American. But false narratives from some opinion shaping biased pro/unlimited/unregulated 2nd Amendment is not persuasive. We may disagree with her proposals, but we can't extrapolate her ideas about rational gun control measures to mean a total abolishing of guns...

... Hillary was not a part of Watergate, no wrong-doing was found on her or Bubba's part in the White Water deal. Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy are deceased, but if alive, are DQ'ed from being President, as is Manson...

There are two sides to the 2nd Amendment: 1) a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, 2) the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. One can't say one part exists, but the other does not...
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delta1 wrote:
I watched all three, and did not hear her say she wanted to totally abolish the 2nd Amendment: she said she didn't think we should have weapons permit laws that allow people to openly carry military style assault weapons with high capacity clips (this on a web-site that can't spell IMPERIALIST); she spoke about other gun control measures like back-ground checks to prevent mentally disturbed people from buying guns....she spoke of limits and controls to the 2nd Amendment-not abolish...yet, in all three clips, narrators claim she wants to abolish guns...


As she obfuscates her answer in one, makes the NRA out to be a bad guy in an other and then bemoans how we shouldn't be allowed to open carry. Nice try. In open carry states, they enjoy less crime. The states with the tightest regulations have the most. What is your point again? What any politician should say is "We as a nation have enough laws on the books regarding guns, either we enforce them or we don't. Creating more isn't the issue." and be done. To me, anything less than that is a rubber stamp for repression and not adhering to the Constitution. Love what ya did with the mentally disturbed remark. Wouldn't that fall on whomever sold them the weapon? Seriously.


delta1 wrote:
I'm not a fan of Hillary... she is a politician who can't seem to connect with the average American. But false narratives from some opinion shaping biased pro/unlimited/unregulated 2nd Amendment is not persuasive. We may disagree with her proposals, but we can't extrapolate her ideas about rational gun control measures to mean a total abolishing of guns...


You sure seem to spend a lot of time here defending her, so I'm not buying that you're not a fan. The mere fact that she was willing to sidestep congress with healthcare initiatives is all I need to know about her intentions. She's a liar and cannot ever be trusted. With ANYTHING!

delta1 wrote:
... Hillary was not a part of Watergate, no wrong-doing was found on her or Bubba's part in the White Water deal. Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy are deceased, but if alive, are DQ'ed from being President, as is Manson...


Yes, she was. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/925684/posts
as far as whitewater goes...http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010120/aponline104904_000.htm
and my point with the deranged killers is that convicted murderers and serial killers are better suited for your devotion than that crooked lying bitch. It had nothing to do with them ever being elected.


delta1 wrote:
There are two sides to the 2nd Amendment: 1) a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, 2) the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. One can't say one part exists, but the other does not...


What constitutes a militia? Armed citizens. Understanding why the 2nd Amendment exists in the first place is key to your flawed thinking. Our Founding Fathers understood what a tyrannical government was like to live under. They put in place provisions for us to overthrow if necessary our own government. They did so with muskets and pitchforks. They wanted an even playing field with no advantage towards the military that defends America. As our military evolves so should the weaponry for citizens. Otherwise, the government can run rampant all over itself and set up a military state. Don't take my word for it though...just look at the nations that willingly gave up their weapons. It's not worked out for them...at all.
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You didn't show me where she said abolish...that's a leap...Hillary bashing is fine, but you don't have to dive into the garbage heap of alternative facts to skewer her...

Just pointing out facts about "Hillary's Watergate scandal"... Hillary was a recent Yale law grad hired as a low-level staff member assisting the special legal team selected by Chair of the House Judiciary Comte Rodino and John Doar, head of the Judiciary Comte's special legal team(Hillary's boss then) in the House impeachment process during Watergate. She had no official public role. She was a spear chucker, and as such, couldn't or didn't do the things that Zeifman alleged, much later when politics motivated him to "make stuff up as red meat" for Clinton haters...

Zeifman was head of the legal counsel for the Judiciary committee, a separate body from the special legal team for Watergate. Many of Zeifman's claims were contradicted by public statements he made before and after he wrote his book about 14 years after the fact. He was never her supervisor...and he didn't say boo until Bubba was elected to the WH...talk about witch hunt...

I will not engage in a discussion about gun rights: it is pointless...I've wasted my breath too often ... there are enough data to support either side...but once one picks a side, there's no use arguing...black is blue and blue is chrome and chrome is pearl and pearl is woodgrain......
MACS Offline
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEqGBOt32NM

^^Check that out, Al. Professor of Law at UCLA, explains.
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Pretty concise and clear statement about the 2nd Amendment. I agree with all he said. UCLA has some pretty decent professors across the political spectrum. Individual gun ownership by citizens is a Constitutional right, undoubtedly. Just as the Professor said about the First Amendment, reasonable and limited regulations are necessary, for both of these basic and primary rights of all citizens in our civil society. I'm proud to SAY it: I'm a GUN OWNER...I'm a CITIZEN...

For those who say that the Second Amendment protects us from tyranny by the government...that dog won't hunt. Can't think of a single citizen who owns a fully equipped armored tank, or a MOAB, let alone a nuclear warhead. I can't think of a single citizen in whom I would trust to possess such a weapon.

We, the people, who need protection from the federal govt., consistently support and vote for higher military expenditures so that our govt. can expand the might of our military: more soldiers, better facilities, more and more powerful weapons, more resources...it is the single largest expenditure in the federal budget...no way to ever level that playing field...

...friggin' right the "militia" (we the people) is well regulated...we just can't decide on how "well" is "well"...
ZRX1200 Offline
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I can't see many affording one.......

REGULATED means trained. *sigh*
elRopo Offline
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The second amendment does not say that a militia is mandatory.

What it does say is that the right "Shall not be infringed".

It does not say " with reasonable restrictions" or anything else at all.
jjanecka Offline
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I dunno I feel like I could trust all those guys who had their $500 orders stolen by cbid with a moab.
elRopo Offline
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Then perhaps a constitutional amendment would be in order rather than some jerkwad liberal judges rewriting laws as they see fit.

Where does it end?
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The fact us common folk can argue about the nuances of what it really means is pretty cool and unusual in this world. I appreciate the folks that disagree with me and they are not evil villains. And they can not have my guns and in reality most don't want to take them. There are always a few loons that do, but there are also others that want rocket launchers.

merica
MACS Offline
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I believe the 2nd amendment is our concealed carry permit.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The people... us, retain the right, to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms.
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I believe it's my First Amendment right to say whatever I want...but if I do, in some places, under some circumstances...there'll be consequences.

It's well established that individual states have the authority to regulate the bearing of arms...reasonable restrictions?...you decide if you want to test it...your belief can get you some jail time in some places...

...plenty of people can afford military weapons of mass destruction...the new F-35 fighter jet is priced at less than $100 million...but it's illegal (reasonable restriction?) to do so...
delta1 Offline
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"Well regulated" means more than "trained". If that was the criteria, then only soldiers and law enforcement officers, would qualify for militias...
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