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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:07 PM EST
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But I understand... you want to flip it when its about your honey boo trump.
teedubbya Offline
#52 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:08 PM EST
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Yup. And colluding with the Russian intelligence is worse to me. Both bad though and we don't need to decide that.. it's not either or. Act on both. Don't use it as an excuse to not look at the one you don't want looked at. That's the shiny shell trick.
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:12 PM EST
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If nothing of merit is found on Trump and crew that needs to be accepted. It's too early, but certainly investigating is appropriate and so far it looks like an onion of lies. More similar to Hillary than different.
Speyside Offline
#54 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:13 PM EST
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I was thinking more like 3 card monte. Is Hillary dirty, sure. Is Donald dirty, sure. For those of you saying give me facts, it's pretty darned obvious. Take off those orange colored glasses and look without deflecting.
teedubbya Offline
#55 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:14 PM EST
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Yea but Hillary....
Speyside Offline
#56 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:18 PM EST
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You know we could add Bill to the conversation and muddy the waters even more. Or perhaps talk about how ineffective Carter was. Or for laughs and giggles talk about the single gunman who killed JFK.
jjanecka Offline
#57 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:22 PM EST
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And how the majority of democrats in office are tied to the Russians by multi-million dollar deals and how weiner showed his weiner to that little girl.
jjanecka Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:23 PM EST
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But never mind that the democrats are far more corrupt than republicans...
victor809 Offline
#59 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:27 PM EST
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^ you can't say that anymore. Not after you elected the orange nepotist... Mr bring your daughter to work day every day...
jjanecka Offline
#60 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:30 PM EST
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What are you talking about, Vic. Democrats are so corrupt that thet had one of their's run as republican, get the nomination, and actually win.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#61 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Yup. And colluding with the Russian intelligence is worse to me. Both bad though and we don't need to decide that.. it's not either or. Act on both. Don't use it as an excuse to not look at the one you don't want looked at. That's the shiny shell trick.

talk about a spin job... not saying you're the one spinning it, but you sure have bought into it...

trump's son got gossip about hillary from a russian... that's it... that's all that happened... not only is that not a crime, that doesn't even qualify as a moral grey area, especially in the arena of politics... unless, of course, you're racist enough to hate anything and everything russian...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:34 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
^ you can't say that anymore. Not after you elected the orange nepotist... Mr bring your daughter to work day every day...

typical complaint of the anti-breeder... evolution will take care of your kind...
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:35 PM EST
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And thr world will be worse for it.

But I won't care I'll be blissfully dead.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:36 PM EST
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Ok jj.... that was hilarious.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#65 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:37 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
And thr world will be worse for it.

But I won't care I'll be blissfully dead.

if the hindus are right, you're coming back as hep c for sure...
teedubbya Offline
#66 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:42 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
talk about a spin job... not saying you're the one spinning it, but you sure have bought into it...

trump's son got gossip about hillary from a russian... that's it... that's all that happened... not only is that not a crime, that doesn't even qualify as a moral grey area, especially in the arena of politics... unless, of course, you're racist enough to hate anything and everything russian...



Read the emails and don't draw conclusions of what really happened in the meeting which we don't know yet. Don't listen to the spin on either side. Just read what the email to jr offers up.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#67 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:46 PM EST
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offers up in exchange for what?
frankj1 Offline
#68 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:50 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Drafter the email to them says she works for the Russian government. Nothing to prove. It's in black and white.

She now denies it but they took the meeting based on an email that said she did. Read the emails. Not what someone tells you to think about them.

To me it's pretty clear it was presented as Russian government help.

and the right thing to have done when offered this "opportunity" would have been to report it to the FBI, not arrange a meeting with agents of an enemy government.

Why even look like you're committing treason?
DrafterX Offline
#69 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:53 PM EST
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Kushner reported this back in January... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:57 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
offers up in exchange for what?


Read the emails. They are pretty clear on who and what they are offering. It's not hard. Don't listen to the pundants. Go directly to the emails.
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:58 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Kushner reported this back in January... Mellow


Follow the timeline on when he did and didn't report certain things. It's interesting. He may be in trouble.
victor809 Offline
#72 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 12:59 PM EST
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Interesting... there was a story about the fox news story on the emails. Apparently when this fox show showed the "important parts"of the emails they replaced "is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump" with ellipses.

So it sort of depends on where a person thinks they read the email from...
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:05 PM EST
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Go to the originals. The jr tweet and or the nyt which is the only reason jr tweeted them after lying about them continually.



DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:17 PM EST
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who did he lie to..?? I didn't know he was under investigation continually... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#75 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:17 PM EST
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Oh I know. I'm just pointing out that there may be those here who think they have read the emails (or what has been told to them is the important parts) but haven't really.
teedubbya Offline
#76 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:43 PM EST
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Drafter go back and read his comments for the last several months but particularly when the nyt started breaking this last wed or thurs. watch his comments change as it becomes clear he is caught in his lies and they have the emails.

Good lord.
DrafterX Offline
#77 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:43 PM EST
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what they say don't matter anyways.. It's how the NYT got them that should be causing Outrage... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#78 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 1:54 PM EST
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Both not either. Deflection.

Both.
DrafterX Offline
#79 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:07 PM EST
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I don't have that much.. Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#80 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:14 PM EST
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I get that. Yours is one sided.
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:16 PM EST
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But he's so round... is there really one a "side" to a sphere?
DrafterX Offline
#82 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:16 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I get that. Yours is one sided.




Laugh


that and losing interest.. there's lots of time left.. Mellow
delta1 Offline
#83 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:54 PM EST
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Oh yea........well.........Hillary GAVE 20% of our uranium to the Russians...

This myth that has been debunked many times before, keeps getting repeated by many conservatives and members of the GOP when questioned about the latest leakage from the investigation into the Trump-Russia thingy...

All the supposed crimes that she's been accused of are now shields being used to deflect the mounting pile of crap that surrounds our President...

He's in charge of the DOJ...if he believes that Hillary committed all those crimes, why doesn't he direct his Attorney General to prosecute her?
teedubbya Offline
#84 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:57 PM EST
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She gave 20% of Uranus to Putin? Poor sap.
victor809 Offline
#85 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 2:58 PM EST
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That's nothing... Trump gave him 100% of his anus.
DrafterX Offline
#86 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 3:19 PM EST
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They couldn't prove the donation to the Foundation was Pay-to-Play but the timing was real good.... the deal went down... Mellow
fiddler898 Offline
#87 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 4:06 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
what they say don't matter anyways.. It's how the NYT got them that should be causing Outrage... Mellow


Ah yes, the "shoot the messenger" gambit. May as well give it a try, since nothing else seems to be working...
DrafterX Offline
#88 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 4:56 PM EST
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I was 'pretending' to be on Hillary's team... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#89 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 5:11 PM EST
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A lesbo?
victor809 Offline
#90 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 5:13 PM EST
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That explains the tits...
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 5:14 PM EST
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Is it vertical or horizontal drafter?
danmdevries Offline
#92 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 8:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That explains the tits...


LOL

Mr. Jones Offline
#93 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 8:23 PM EST
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"I DID NOT COLLUDE"
"I DID NOT PERJURE MYSELF"
"I DID NOT LIE"
"MY TANNED SON IS A *****ING TURNCOAT"
Abrignac Offline
#94 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:09 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
So you're proud those surrounding the president you elected have lied repeatedly?


Please tell me you aren't really that naive....
Abrignac Offline
#95 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:10 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
^ That, is not an answer to my question.



and your question is silly.....
Abrignac Offline
#96 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:19 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Oh yea........well.........Hillary GAVE 20% of our uranium to the Russians...

This myth that has been debunked many times before, keeps getting repeated by many conservatives and members of the GOP when questioned about the latest leakage from the investigation into the Trump-Russia thingy...

All the supposed crimes that she's been accused of are now shields being used to deflect the mounting pile of crap that surrounds our President...

He's in charge of the DOJ...if he believes that Hillary committed all those crimes, why doesn't he direct his Attorney General to prosecute her?


Because neither side wants their dirty laundry aired. It's all smoke & mirrors.
Abrignac Offline
#97 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:27 PM EST
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Just read the "original" texts of the emails. Still looking for some sort of smoking gun. Very embarrassing, but illegal?
Speyside Offline
#98 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:33 PM EST
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It appears to me that Flynn lied, Manafort lied, Kushner lied, Sessions lied, Conway lied, Trump junior lied, Spicer lied, and Sarah Sanders Huckaby lied. All about meetings with Russians. Though Spicer and Huckaby simply may not have known about meetings. The others met with Russians and denied it.
Abrignac Offline
#99 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:36 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
It appears to me that Flynn lied, Manafort lied, Kushner lied, Sessions lied, Conway lied, Trump junior lied, Spicer lied, and Sarah Sanders Huckaby lied. All about meetings with Russians. Though Spicer and Huckaby simply may not have known about meetings. The others met with Russians and denied it.


Can you be a bit more specific?
Speyside Offline
#100 Posted: Wed, Jul 12 2017, 9:37 PM EST
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Did they do something illegal? Flynn and Manafort not registering as foreign agents, maybe. Kushner not listing his meeting with a Russian, probably not. Sessions, probably not. The others highly doubtful. Did they lie, yes.
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