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Buckwheat Offline
#1 Posted:
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We should all encourage Michelle Carter to follow in her "friend's footsteps" after she convinces him to commit suicide. Read all about this morally bankrupt individual here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texting-suicide-trial-sentencing-conrad-roy-family-michelle-carter/
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DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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Ultimate bitch... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#3 Posted:
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had to google michele carter
then i recognized some of the pics

hopefully she repents
wont bring him back
but might save her
tailgater Offline
#4 Posted:
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This is such a sad story all around.

MACS Offline
#5 Posted:
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Ooof. This is a difficult one for me. She sounds heartless and morally bankrupt for sure, but is that criminal?

I believe we are morally obligated to provide aid to injured people, sure... but legally? They were teens, too. Which one of us as a teen didn't triple dog dare a friend to do something stupid?

I'm declaring a teedub moment. I'm on the fence, here.
MACS Offline
#6 Posted:
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Having given this some additional thought... she's culpable. I dare say the vast majority of our laws are based on our societal morality, and she not only did not prevent his death, but encouraged it.
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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well, daring someone to poke a buffalo with a stick is a little different than telling someone to sit in their truck and die... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#8 Posted:
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Cmon guys lighten up, she just told him he should kill himself, it's not like she thought he'd up and go do it.

Can't help it the kid was a snowflake.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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'Get back in the truck..!!'

Think
jjanecka Offline
#10 Posted:
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Look! It was normal in the 80's!!!

https://youtu.be/V07ps1GMKgk
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted:
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If Obama had a son he'd look like Sams... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted:
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She's got some eyebrows.
illinichaser Offline
#13 Posted:
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I see where most are coming from here. What she did is morally reprehensible. She's not a nice person. But at the same time, I question if we know where the line is. She didn't pin him into the truck. She just encouraged a decision he had already made.

If an overweight teenager ends up committing suicide and his death note references his inability to be called "fatty", are the bully's to blame? Possibly. But are the legally culpable?

What about the weirdo who breaks and goes and gets a gun? are the students he shoots culpable for their own injuries?

I could go on and on. I think she will have a price to pay in the long run and one that is much different than any court can impose. But, I'm not sure I agree that a law has been broken by her words.
DrafterX Offline
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not sure what she was charged with..... but conspiracy is a crime you can get thrown in da pokey for without actually committing the crime... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#15 Posted:
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In any case if all she did was encourage the kid's death verbally there shouldn't be a case; However, if the kid was actively in the process of killing himself then she probably should have at least done something. I don't know the case nor do I really care. I just don't think telling someone to kill themselves warrants a jail sentence.
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted:
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Carter wrote in one message: "I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it!"

"You can't think about it. You just have to do it. You said you were gonna do it. Like I don't get why you aren't," Carter wrote on the day of the suicide.

In another text, Carter wrote "you’re finally going to be happy in heaven. No more pain. It’s okay to be scared and it’s normal. I mean, you’re about to die."

Carter also had texted Roy to "get back in" his truck as it filled with carbon monoxide during the suicide attempt.

"This court finds that instructing Mr. Roy to 'get back in' the truck constitutes wanton and reckless conduct by Ms. Carter," the judge said.

He said Carter had a duty to call someone for help when she knew Roy was taking his own life. Yet she did not call the police or Roy's family, the judge said.

"She did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck," the judge said.



Think
Gene363 Offline
#17 Posted:
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jjanecka wrote:
Cmon guys lighten up, she just told him he should kill himself, it's not like she thought he'd up and go do it.

Can't help it the kid was a snowflake.


Not "just" she told him to get back into his truck when the exhaust was making him sick.
jjanecka Offline
#18 Posted:
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Ah yeah, she probably should go to jail then for not trying to save him. Thanks for clearing that up.
Gene363 Offline
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What a difference in the reaction to this sorry Bitch's deed vs those of Michael Vick.Not talking

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ech-Sports-Hall-of-Fame

DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted:
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well, after she serves her time and stays straight for awhile maybe VT will want to give her somethin too... Mellow
jjanecka Offline
#21 Posted:
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I do have to say that some women are downright evil though. They will make a man jump through impossible standards, force them to accept watered down doctrine, and send these guys into multiple mental breakdowns just for their own personal entertainment. The guy was probably a decent kid probably just didn't quite know how to back off or let it go. I mean for all we know the gal might have been decent too but probably didn't know how to handle it or was just plain fed up with the kid acting like a suicidal douche.

It's really just a sad story that could have been prevented.
RMAN4443 Offline
#22 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
well, after she serves her time and stays straight for awhile maybe VT will want to give her somethin too... Mellow

^^^^Applause
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted:
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yep... she shoulda retrieved the phone from da truck... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
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MACS wrote:
Ooof. This is a difficult one for me. She sounds heartless and morally bankrupt for sure, but is that criminal?

I believe we are morally obligated to provide aid to injured people, sure... but legally? They were teens, too. Which one of us as a teen didn't triple dog dare a friend to do something stupid?

I'm declaring a teedub moment. I'm on the fence, here.


I don't believe that Charles Mason actually committed any of the Manson Murders. He just convinced others to do it. To me it's pretty cut and dry. horse
DrafterX Offline
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I wonder how Manson's trial would go in modern day LA.... Think
MACS Offline
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Buckwheat wrote:
I don't believe that Charles Mason actually committed any of the Manson Murders. He just convinced others to do it. To me it's pretty cut and dry. horse


Did you really compare what she did to Charles Manson? Murder vs suicide. She's more comparable to Jack Kevorkian.
RMAN4443 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Did you really compare what she did to Charles Manson? Murder vs suicide. She's more comparable to Jack Kevorkian.

Actually she kinda reminds me of my ex-wife........yap yap yap.......she could make it seem like killing yourself was the way to go:-"
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted:
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Man... if I had a nickle for every person I tried to convince to kill themselves...
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted:
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I'd hit it
Mr. Jones Offline
#30 Posted:
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FRY HER AZZ IN AN OLD HALF BROKEN
ELECTRIC CHAIR...
LIKE THE GREEN MILE
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted:
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I'd still hit it
shaun341 Offline
#32 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Ooof. This is a difficult one for me. She sounds heartless and morally bankrupt for sure, but is that criminal?

I believe we are morally obligated to provide aid to injured people, sure... but legally? They were teens, too. Which one of us as a teen didn't triple dog dare a friend to do something stupid?

I'm declaring a teedub moment. I'm on the fence, here.


I agree with this and even though Macs next post says he changes his mind after more thought I still sit on the fence. Sure she is piece of shizz garbage but what law did she break. If we just fabricate laws because we think people are morally improper at any given moment then aren't we headed down a slippery slope? I mean I think every Kardashian on TV is a disgusting example of the human race and our youth is learning from them how to make money in the same manner but should they be lawfully punished? Someone died in this instance, but was she the reason? It is tough to side one way or the other on this one.
Gene363 Offline
#33 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I'd still hit it


You just wanna feel the tickle of those eyebrows, I'm just saying.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#34 Posted:
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To answer shaun's question, yes, all of the kardashians should be executed...

Interesting no one has brought up the case in Florida where 4 teenagers taunted, laughed at, and video taped a man as he plead for help to be saved from drowning... he died, i believe the teenagers remain uncharged...
teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted:
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If you don't like it work to change the law. It's not legal and she's goin bug bye. It's really not a question of legality at this point.

Peckerhead Offline
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Eyebrow to forehead ratio is off.
rfenst Offline
#37 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
not sure what she was charged with..... but conspiracy is a crime you can get thrown in da pokey for without actually committing the crime... Mellow


A conspiracy requires two or more bad actor not one
rfenst Offline
#38 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
To answer shaun's question, yes, all of the kardashians should be executed...

Interesting no one has brought up the case in Florida where 4 teenagers taunted, laughed at, and video taped a man as he plead for help to be saved from drowning... he died, i believe the teenagers remain uncharged...


They had zero to do with the man getting into the water and did not screw up rescuing him. NO crime, just improperly raised animals.

No duty to rescue in most states.

Florida has a 'Good Samaritan law" that insulates rescuers from liability"under normal circumstances.
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted:
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In the ultimate Bitch case the judge made it clear there would be appeals and let her go home until so.. it will most likely get overturned and he was prolly just trying to scare her.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#40 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
A conspiracy requires two or more bad actor not one




Makes sense.. somebody's gotta nark.. otherwise it would go un-reported... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted:
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well, you can't conspire alone
DrafterX Offline
#42 Posted:
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Yep... Choose your conspirators wisely... And be willing to whack them.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#43 Posted:
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I get your thought process, man.
DrafterX Offline
#44 Posted:
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It's pretty basic.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#45 Posted:
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me too.
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted:
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So, are you asking me to rob a bank or somethin..?? Huh
Gene363 Offline
#47 Posted:
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We watched a 20-20 show about the trial. The prosecutor and dead boy's family insisted it was a case of murder. That is a huge stretch for me, but if hate crime, essentially a state of mind, is a thing. SMDH! d'oh!

There was one interesting fact in the show that points to her guilt. During the death investigation little miss eyebrows texted her friends her fear the police were going to read her texts because if they did, they would send her to jail and the dead guys family would hate her.
frankj1 Offline
#48 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
So, are you asking me to rob a bank or somethin..?? Huh

no way, man...but if you have thoughts of me helping to plot a bank robbery, well there's not much I can do to stop you from sharing.
DrafterX Offline
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Other than the obvious I guess... Unsure
teedubbya Offline
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I'd still hit it
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