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Speyside Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 8:59 AM EST
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I am curious. I am not suggesting you support the Democrats. I think it is possible to not support Trump and still be a conservative Republican.
Mr. Jones Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 9:13 AM EST
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I support "THE FUNNY AS H3LL DOG AND PONY
CIRCUS PARADE SHOW OF LOSER APPOINTEES HIRINGS AND FIRINGS"

I laugh like H3LL EVERY TIME IT HAPPENS...

A. TRUMP APPOINTS A WELL KNOWN LOSER BUT SELLS HIM-her like their the best thing since sliced white bread"

B. "He" or "they" **** something up....

REAL BAD LIKE...

TRUMP gets blamed... but he projects that blame on the nearest LOSER appointee...that appointee gets mocked out on SNL INCESSANTLY FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS...

C. TRUMP THEN BLAMES THE CLOSET TO THE PROBLEM LOSER APPOINTEE and he tells them...

"YOUR F.I.R.E.D.!!!"

His mind is still in REALITY TV LAND..
TMCTLT Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 9:17 AM EST
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I don't support his @ times obnoxious tweets etc. but YES overall I STILL support him. HE IS....like it or not THE poster child for everything this supposed FREE country is to stand for right? I didn't like Soetoro and he was perhaps the sh*tiest possible choice we could have made as our first Black president. Why?
Because he was NOT interested in furthering or bettering the racial gap in our country, he CHOSE to use it to further divide us and try to " right all the wrongs " rather real or perceived. What were seeing unfold now is his pot stirring coming to fruition. But I also think he received a PASS on a number of things simply because he WAS our first (.5 ) Black president that anyone else would have received media scrutiny over
Could he be more eloquent and Presidential in his speeches? Absolutely...do I think if the media and Hollywierd et all would get off his back and give he and his cabinet an opportunity to govern we may be witnessing a different outcome. YES but Perhaps not...ymmv
Mattie B Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 9:26 AM EST
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I do
gummy jones Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 9:47 AM EST
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i still support his overall plan as stated - the number of bills that have been passed in the house that havent even been discussed in the senate (>220 or so) is a testament to the dysfunction and obstruction that now defines our government. these politicians only care about reelection.

the drama is annoying
the swamp is annoying
the media is annoying

i wouldnt trade him for hilary - i know that

we are living in the age of great feelers, not great thinkers
living in this country and culture we are all guilty to an extent
i try my best to not confuse feeling and thinking
our feelings often betray us
zitotczito Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 12:05 PM EST
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I do,
frankj1 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 12:47 PM EST
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DrafterX named me medical proxy, or whatever it's called, so while he's under the ether I'll vote for him.

he still supports Trump
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 12:49 PM EST
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If you can't be an athlete be an athletic supporter.
delta1 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 1:54 PM EST
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I did not support Trump...I didn't think he would be a good President...he defied most of the traditional standards by which candidates were previously measured: knowledge, experience, temperament, judgement, openness(tax returns concealed), honesty, non-controversial behavior in prior life...measures that we used to use to predict a candidates suitability for the office...

Trump kinda proves, so far, that those standards have some value...but he shocked everybody when he won...maybe he can rise from his current place and prove capable of MAGA...at least 70% of his party still believe in him...he's got 3 years to prove the doubters wrong before the cycle to choose our next President starts...
danmdevries Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 2:14 PM EST
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I did not and do not back Trump.

I'd hoped he would recognize his inexperience and appoint the right people around him. He has not.

I could not back Clinton for many reasons. And that has not changed despite this ongoing embarrassment.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 2:18 PM EST
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When I worked in the meat processing industry, it was common to send whole cuts through a metal detector... it was important, especially on shoulder cuts of beef where finding a BB wasn't unheard of...

the metal detctor worked... and the way I knew it worked wasn't because it never sounded an alarm,but rather because, when I intentionally put metal through the metal detector, the alarm went off, without fail...

The Government of The United States of America has a fantastic system of checks and balances that ensures the statutes and stipulations of our constitution are delicately and appropriately applied...

I support Donald Trump because he's our president, but he's nothing more to me than a racist version of Jimmy Morales... he's the chunk of metal by which we prove or disprove the efficacy of our system...
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 2:23 PM EST
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Al, like having DIRECT TIES TO ADMITTED TERROISTS?

Not releasing college transcripts (which were likely someone's real reluctance to the "birtherism") ?

Bill Clinton din meet your criteria either.

Bush family has some detestable ties to past history.....

I don't support Trump, I didn't support or vote for him.

I haven't truly supported ANY POTUS in my lifetime. Till this nation gets back on the rails God bless us because we need it.
teedubbya Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 2:39 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
When I worked in the meat processing industry, it was common to send whole cuts through a metal detector... it was important, especially on shoulder cuts of beef where finding a BB wasn't unheard of...

the metal detctor worked... and the way I knew it worked wasn't because it never sounded an alarm,but rather because, when I intentionally put metal through the metal detector, the alarm went off, without fail...

The Government of The United States of America has a fantastic system of checks and balances that ensures the statutes and stipulations of our constitution are delicately and appropriately applied...

I support Donald Trump because he's our president, but he's nothing more to me than a racist version of Jimmy Morales... he's the chunk of metal by which we prove or disprove the efficacy of our system...



like
delta1 Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 2:51 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Al, like having DIRECT TIES TO ADMITTED TERROISTS?

Not releasing college transcripts (which were likely someone's real reluctance to the "birtherism") ?

Bill Clinton din meet your criteria either.

Bush family has some detestable ties to past history.....

I don't support Trump, I didn't support or vote for him.

I haven't truly supported ANY POTUS in my lifetime. Till this nation gets back on the rails God bless us because we need it.




And so have I been disappointed in most Presidents in my lifetime, Jamie. None have been perfect, all have done some really disappointing things, imho. If we are honest and not in march step with any party affiliation, neither side can say their Presidents have been better for all Americans. Some will look good because the country was healthy or world circumstances were favorable, despite what they did. Others will take a little longer for history to judge, prolly by comparison.

I admit that I have a bias ...I think that one party tries to meet my values better than the other...values and expectations of politics that seem to be going by the wayside on both sides...but this is my home, my country...and I'm not likely to throw my hands up and stop voting...I do think that political rhetoric is getting way too heated...too personal...everybody trying to defend and playing gotcha offense...not sure if God can do anything about that cuz many of the players believe God is on their side...


BTW: Having direct ties to terrorists would be an automatic disqualifier...anyone with them should not be President.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 3:02 PM EST
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I've supported the people since 1980.

I think it's a Question of Rathers.

I'd Rather have Trump than what was offered. I would have

Rather had Steve Harvey over Obama.

Same song and dance. Just whistle why you work that's my

motto.

Burner02 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 5:42 PM EST
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I'm still behind Trump. I don't agree with everything he says but will cut him some slack for now since he is not a career politician. As a matter of fact the more he agitates the left the more I like it. My wife's liberal educator friends are still running around with their hair on fire and all hate (not dislike but hate) Trump. They can't tell you why they hate him other than he is Trump. I know the reason, he defeated their queen and the world as they know it will end in the near future.

Trump has more of a battle than any newly elected president than I can remember in my life time.. He is battling the obstructionist Dems, the left wing media, Rhino's and a large portion of the elected Republican guard.

This past week everything was focused on the the alt right, confederate statues and Trump's off the cuff remarks when pushed by the left wing media. Last time I checked North Korea was going to attack Guam during the middle of the month but evidently, fatty fat had second thoughts since we were locked and loaded. Appears he was sent a message rather than paying him millions or billions to stand down. But not one peep out of the left wing media.

The lefts fake concern is getting tiresome.
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 6:11 PM EST
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Trump and his State team deserve a lot of credit for exposing Fatty Fat...

I had hopes that Fatty Fat would fire off a missile aimed at Guam, to prove once and for now, how empty and impotent his missile capability really is. Didja see the photo of his "war planning" session Fatty Fat had with his Generals? His own news agency released it to the world.

It was hysterical, reminding me of turn of the century (19 to 20th) pictures of dictators planning for war, complete with a paper map spread out on a flat metal desk, a wooden ruler and a few guys standing around pointing their fingers. These are the guys, and the technology they use, who are plotting our destruction at the hands of nuclear weapons they will fire at us????

We should float a square mile platform in the Pacific Ocean about 2,150 miles (about the distance between Guam and NK) off the North Korean coast that has a giant rubber doll lookalike of KJU in a dress, with the word "d*ckless" in Korean, and dare him to shoot it out of the water...broadcast that into the NK media system...
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 6:17 PM EST
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The rino is trump.
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 6:59 PM EST
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Oh, he's a career politician alright. Politics ain't only the whores taking the money, but more so about their owners, the billionaire buyers.
He's been buying for decades.

Outsider? That's rich.
deadeyedick Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 7:30 PM EST
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Never supported him and didn't vote for him but the alternative was out of the question also.

I do support about 80% of his agenda but think it has a snowballs chance in hell of getting through congress. Even the parts that would be good for the entire country and, in principle, supported by the Dems will be never be enacted during his term unless he does a Billy.
Abrignac Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 7:45 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I did not support Trump...I didn't think he would be a good President...he defied most of the traditional standards by which candidates were previously measured: knowledge, experience, temperament, judgement, openness(tax returns concealed), honesty, non-controversial behavior in prior life...measures that we used to use to predict a candidates suitability for the office...

Trump kinda proves, so far, that those standards have some value...but he shocked everybody when he won...maybe he can rise from his current place and prove capable of MAGA...at least 70% of his party still believe in him...he's got 3 years to prove the doubters wrong before the cycle to choose our next President starts...



This absolutely ridiculous.

The President he replaced:
.......... was no more an expert in his chosen field than Trump was in his.
.......... had scant experience as an elected office holder
.......... was known to be very tempermental
.......... made some pisspoor judgements
.......... yet he won't produce his long form birth certificate (not that it matters, for that matter neither do tax returns IMO)
.......... "If you like your Doctor, you can keep him"
.......... but he sure hung around some controversial people. Pardoned a few as well.

Perhaps history is a good teacher. I recall Bill Clinton had a really rough start until he brought in Leon Panetta. Trump has a new Chief of Staff and he ditched Bannon. I'll predict that the kinks start to work themselves out and the Donald quits being the Donald. Time will tell.
Abrignac Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Aug 18 2017, 7:49 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Trump and his State team deserve a lot of credit for exposing Fatty Fat...

I had hopes that Fatty Fat would fire off a missile aimed at Guam, to prove once and for now, how empty and impotent his missile capability really is. Didja see the photo of his "war planning" session Fatty Fat had with his Generals? His own news agency released it to the world.

It was hysterical, reminding me of turn of the century (19 to 20th) pictures of dictators planning for war, complete with a paper map spread out on a flat metal desk, a wooden ruler and a few guys standing around pointing their fingers. These are the guys, and the technology they use, who are plotting our destruction at the hands of nuclear weapons they will fire at us????

We should float a square mile platform in the Pacific Ocean about 2,150 miles (about the distance between Guam and NK) off the North Korean coast that has a giant rubber doll lookalike of KJU in a dress, with the word "d*ckless" in Korean, and dare him to shoot it out of the water...broadcast that into the NK media system...



It not hopeless. We do share some common ground. That and a love of great conversation, fishing, drinking and smoking cigars.
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Aug 19 2017, 12:15 AM EST
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The Donald will never stop being the Donald. Kelly is managing down not up. Up is impossible.
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Aug 19 2017, 12:29 AM EST
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When someone shows you who they are, beleive them.
jicle Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Aug 19 2017, 12:55 AM EST
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A lot of people do, the media would rather have you believe that half the people who voted for him are now against him but thats far from the case.
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Aug 19 2017, 1:08 AM EST
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He still has a strong base, about 75 % of his voters, a large majority of whom are GOP, are sticking it out with him (the 35% of all voters who still approve of the job he's doing)...those who bailed were mostly independents and cross-overs...
Gene363 Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Aug 19 2017, 10:05 AM EST
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Yes, he is the President.

I refuse to be the little bitch for the progressives (commies), big media and the haters, especially the haters. I could not imagine in a million years why some people get so full of blind hate and yet call themselves human beings. I saw it for GWB, Obama, now Trump. Nothing but sick F's looking for an excuse to hate, little Stalins without any power.
TMCTLT Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 12:18 PM EST
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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) has revealed that during the 2016 presidential campaign, House Speaker Paul Ryan told him and his fellow Republicans to give up on Donald Trump's campaign and just focus their energy on keeping "President Hillary Clinton accountable." According to Ryan, the Republicans had no chance at the White House, so at the very least they should try to retain their House majority.


Full story here....d'oh!



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/08/20/gohmert-during-the-campaign-paul-ryan-told-us-to-keep-president-hillary-clinton-accountable-n2370967


Paul Ryan is a sh*tbag who's now just looking to stay in Washington as long as possible
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 12:50 PM EST
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^ is that new news to you or do you remember when it happened? I remember it clearly.
Gene363 Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 1:15 PM EST
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^
^

Some of the reasons Trump received a lot of votes from pissed off previously republican voters.
tailgater Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 6:13 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I am curious. I am not suggesting you support the Democrats. I think it is possible to not support Trump and still be a conservative Republican.


I am curious as well.
Why wouldn't a Trump supporter still support him?

Are you suggesting that media and social pressure should change opinions?

I'm 50 years old.
And white.
Outside of isolated incidents such as Rodney King and OJ Simpson, I've not seen a rash of racial tension in this country.
Until Ferguson.
And BLM.
Under Obama.

Did we ask Obama supporters to rethink their decisions back then?

Again, just curious.
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 7:19 PM EST
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It's the new form of "white guilt" tail...the left is always trying new things to make conservative white people feel guilty about their political decisions...there's a secret meeting every now and then when leftists from both coasts gather to discuss and decide the new WG strategy... some members of the media are invited too...that's how they go down the highway...I'd tell you when and where the next meeting will be held, but I think I've said too much...
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 7:28 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
It's the new form of "white guilt" tail...the left is always trying new things to make conservative white people feel guilty about their political decisions...there's a secret meeting every now and then when leftists from both coasts gather to discuss and decide the new WG strategy... some members of the media are invited too...that's how they go down the highway...I'd tell you when and where the next meeting will be held, but I think I've said too much...

no, that's not it.
the media tells us to do it.
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 7:47 PM EST
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oh sheeeet, Frank...you're NOT supposed to let that out...it's supposed to be Soros, remember?
tailgater Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 7:57 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
It's the new form of "white guilt" tail...the left is always trying new things to make conservative white people feel guilty about their political decisions...there's a secret meeting every now and then when leftists from both coasts gather to discuss and decide the new WG strategy... some members of the media are invited too...that's how they go down the highway...I'd tell you when and where the next meeting will be held, but I think I've said too much...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2k4DgsZGR8

*thud*
(sound of mike dropping)
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 7:59 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
no, that's not it.
the media tells us to do it.


Says the guy who thinks he's being infiltrated.
Speyside Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:00 PM EST
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Tail, are you ever anything but a provocateur?

Just curious.
tailgater Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:05 PM EST
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I do love french words.
tailgater Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:07 PM EST
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And now Speyside has been curious twice.

Does that make him bi-curious?
Speyside Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:12 PM EST
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I think I have been curious 3.14159 times.

Does that make me pi curious?
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:16 PM EST
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pi curious would be the exact opposite.

But I like the way you think.
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:19 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
pi curious would be the exact opposite.

But I like the way you think.


he is a good thinker. let's have him select the wine.
tailgater Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:23 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
he is a good thinker. let's have him select the wine.


As long as it's not white.
If I learned one thing this past week it's that I hate white.
frankj1 Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:32 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
As long as it's not white.
If I learned one thing this past week it's that I hate whitey.



wow!
Speyside Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 8:33 PM EST
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Congratulations on joining antifa!
tailgater Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 9:00 PM EST
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I'll be sure to cover my face.
Speyside Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 9:14 PM EST
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So -3.14159 times would be pi curious?

But I'm getting hungry so I'm probably epicurios.
bgz Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 10:41 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
So -3.14159 times would be pi curious?

But I'm getting hungry so I'm probably epicurios.


No, that would be antipi, they protest math conventions and strip joints.
fishinguitarman Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Aug 20 2017, 10:46 PM EST
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Trump ROCKS!!! Finally a President that tells the truth and what they really says what he believes instead of what "the people" want to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
usafvet509 Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Aug 21 2017, 4:22 AM EST
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I did and still do. The collective apoplexy of the leftarded vindicates me daily. I do, however, lament the fact that we had no veteran candidates on the conservative side for me to support. I feel strongly that if you want to lead this country, you ought have SERVED this country
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