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Yes, he did. My question is do you think it is right or wrong he was pardoned.

I really don't have a problem with Sheriff Joe. Most hate on him because he grandstanded on the backs of criminals. He was tough, then again...most NEVER wanted to go back to jail.

Meh. Not like he was a terrorist, a financier to the 1%. They accused him of profiling. When you're up against the Mexican border and you're arresting a lot of Mexicans for crossing I really don't believe that's profiling. Its called doing your job.

Not going to begrudge Trump exercising his pardon power, since I was meh about previous presidents and their choices for pardons...

I expect Trump to use his pardon powers a lot DURING his term, not at the END of his term, as was the previous norm. He'll pardon all those in his campaign who may be convicted of something...he's prolly already sent that signal to Mueller and the Congressional Intelligence cmtes.... that they are wasting their time looking for wrong-doers in his campaign...

it'll be up to we, the people, to judge if we're OK with that...

Aripio has been abusing his authority and people for years.

But Trump does not repect the law and is known to hate Mexicans, so this was the perfect move for him to show his azz. He is an embarisment.

I have a pair of pink undies signed by sheriff joe. Met him in the late 80s or early 90s.

I have a bias against those in authority abusing their authority even if I might agree with them in principle. I try not to pick and choose.

For someone to be so "law and order" unless and until he disagrees with it is bs. Sheriff joe grew into a legend in his own mind and more a problem than a solution.

Trump can pardon whomever he likes legally. That doesn't insulate him from criticism or political backlash though. I think he deserves it on this one but he doesn't care. To do so now, before sentencing and in today's environment tells you a bit about trumps base.

It's probably less than 6 months for an 85 year old man. Meh. But Joe never had any sympathy for a persons age or length of sentence (let alone severity of crime). The rules seem to apply to people selectively but that's no great surprise is it?

I'm still for Presidents being able to pardon whoever they want other than themselves. If there's a political will go for it.

Too soon. Trump should have let the process unfold and waited until the end of court proceedings.

Barfing up talking points. Any example of how Joe abused his authority? I mean, aside from enforcing federal law when a local judge deemed it inconvenient?

Any example of how Trump doesn't respect the law, and hates Mexicans? I mean, other than attempting to enforce our border laws?

You, sir, are the embarrassment. (I spelled it right, you didn't)

Yup.

I have seen him in action. I don't care who pays for the wall. We need to do something about the problem and he's willing to do something.

I have seen politicians lie in the past. His are not new, albeit not under oath... (bazinga!).

You danced around my question, though. Please... show me examples of Trump hating Mexicans, or not respecting our laws.

I want the wall built. I want everyone here illegally thrown out. I want our border as secure as possible. I want every person legally immigrating fully vetted (as my wife was).

Do I hate Mexicans, too? Because I think my Mexican friends would disagree. Even the liberal ones (right, xibbumbero).

You'll only confuse them. Wasn't it reported that illegal immigration is already down by 50% or more?

Edit: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/9/illegal-immigration-southwest-border-down-70-pct/

He lost in court. He abused his power. He decided he was the ultimate authority and was wrong. It's ok to agree with his philosophy but in terms of law he was wrong and no longer on the side of law and order.

Maybe he could have appealed....jury....., I it's what whomever wanted blah blah blah. That's all nice speculation and projection but he lost. The decision to do those things is over. He abused his power. Trump pardoned him. The end.

Double post outrage.

Drafter is getting more stretch marks.

He was found guilty. The decision was made to pardon him. I don't think he would have won on appeal but even if I did or you do we will not know. He abused his power and was convicted of such.

Misdemeanor contempt of court. I still say "so what".

Admittedly because I share his ideals.

I don't trust them, so I'd not ask you to show me the "news".

You can't give ONE example. I'm fine with that, because there are none. Just quit trying to blow smoke up my ass. I don't go for that kinda stuff.

I don't like him as our president. He is. And I still say he's far and away better than Hillary or Sanders.

He was convicted for contempt and was not allowed to have a jury trial by the very judge who convicted him.

He was doing exactly what the feds were supposed to be doing but refused to do during the Obama years and therefore incurred the wrath of the open boarders crowd by going after those employers who staffed their facilities with illegals.

I have a whole bunch of contempt for that kind of justice.

no game set match nor privy to more info than anyone else, and in stark disagreement with the local major press, senators etc.

No need for a pardon then.

BS. Convicted. No further process so everything else is nothing but conjecture and opinion (which we are all entitled and I'm cool with DED not liking the conviction).

He was pardoned for a crime he was convicted of. You may be ok with what he did. You may be ok with the pardon. But those are the facts. Without the pardon he was looking at jail time whether you like it or not.

I'm not saying the guy wasn't guilty of contempt.

I'm saying the contempt was 100% justified, and his pardon was no big deal because of that.

I am against sanctuary cities, think illegal aliens should be deported when found etc. There are many that disagree with me and justify the sanctuary status, working to hide them etc. They are so sure they are right it justifies what they do. In that regard they have something similar to Joe.... and trump.

Its ok to have an opinion that a law is wrong, and even to take contrary action as a result. Civil disobedience is noble.... to an extent.... I just think when you get caught at it there are repercussions. Part of the nobility it the risk. Jo is a whiney **** (kitty cat) not a bad ass.

Even with the morons protesting that get violent on many sides....many sides.... no matter what side you are on the minute you break the law (even if you think justified) and get caught there are consequences.



And one point of law is the Prez can pardon. It's on the up and up and nothing but political at this point.

Trump hates Mexicans: "They're rapists, murderers, bad people...there may be a few good ones." "The Judge is Mexican...think he'll be fair?"

Trump not respecting our laws: "Just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril...If something happens blame him and court system. People pouring in. Bad!"

Trump was very specific about which Mexicans he didn't like..

I'll bet he likes Salma Hayek...

I think that was, ALEX TREBEK

I'll smack man boobs for a hunnert Alex