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gummy jones Offline
#51 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 8:17 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:


I have a bias against those in authority abusing their authority even if I might agree with them in principle. I try not to pick and choose.


Gonz
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#52 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 8:22 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I have a pair of pink undies signed by sheriff joe. Met him in the late 80s or early 90s.



I bet you made him sign them while you wore them too.whip
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 9:13 AM EST
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With the fly open
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#54 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 4:07 PM EST
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...with a sharpie that was low on ink, so he had to press real hard and over write his autograph several times...
TMCTLT Offline
#55 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 5:29 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Don't care where I live, but you can weigh in on Ferguson even though I'm in Missouri. That means nothing to me. My sister has lived in Phoenix for 35 years, my folks for around 20 and I've been familiar with Joe and his antics since the 80s. As I said I have autographed undies.

We can disagree but the proximity thing doesn't impress. You agree with him and that's cool. Your Senators and your major news outlets do not. Yours is an opinion and just as valid as anyone elses.




Well ****....there's a SHOCKER....I mean I"M......f * c ki n g shocked!!!!!!!

And laughing my ass off @ you.
teedubbya Offline
#56 Posted: Mon, Aug 28 2017, 6:35 PM EST
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So which of the people that live there get all the info to make the right decision and which do not?

As for laughing I'm glad I could return the favor.
TMCTLT Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 5:21 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
So which of the people that live there get all the info to make the right decision and which do not?

As for laughing I'm glad I could return the favor.



Allow me to clarify a bit, you state that because YOU don't agree with Rick but side with his clearly open borders advocates and chicken sh^t Senators along with the bullsh*t PC media....he's wrong. Got it.


I'm STILL laughing
teedubbya Offline
#58 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 6:58 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Allow me to clarify a bit, you state that because YOU don't agree with Rick but side with his clearly open borders advocates and chicken sh^t Senators along with the bullsh*t PC media....he's wrong. Got it.


I'm STILL laughing



That's not what I said. I actually said he has his own opinion and it's as good as anyone else's. We don't have to agree. I can respect someone who disagrees with me. Something you clearly cant.

I simply disagree that living in AZ gives him a magical advantage with information and showed some others living in AZ that have a different opinion. I could use some of my family that live there and disagree with him, and some of my family disagree with me. No one in here knows them or cares what they think however.... thus although they live in Phoenix they don't magically have more credibility or info.

The fact that your opinion discounts both of the States statewide elected Senators whom presumably represent the majority of the State means very little to me. The fact you cast anyone or any institution that disagrees with you in blanket talking point terms rather than intelligent coherent thoughts of your own and think that justifies discounting anything they say or think means little to me. It's the problem not the solution.

I simply showed that there isn't universal agreement in PHX let alone anywhere else and living in PHX and loving Joe is not game set mach by any means.

But his opinion is absolutely as valid as anyone else's, and I respect it. It's just not more informed or better than anyone else's simply based on proximity. If that was the case you all would need to stfu and listen to me on Ferguson which would be ridiculous.

*shrug* I'm not shocked at your inability to understand basic things.
TMCTLT Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:03 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
That's not what I said. I actually said he has his own opinion and it's as good as anyone else's. We don't have to agree. I can respect someone who disagrees with me. Something you clearly cant.

I simply disagree that living in AZ gives him a magical advantage with information and showed some others living in AZ that have a different opinion. I could use some of my family that live there and disagree with him, and some of my family disagree with me. No one in here knows them or cares what they think however.... thus although they live in Phoenix they don't magically have more credibility or info.

The fact that your opinion discounts both of the States statewide elected Senators whom presumably represent the majority of the State means very little to me. The fact you cast anyone or any institution that disagrees with you in blanket talking point terms rather than intelligent coherent thoughts of your own and think that justifies discounting anything they say or think means little to me. It's the problem not the solution.

I simply showed that there isn't universal agreement in PHX let alone anywhere else and living in PHX and loving Joe is not game set mach by any means.

But his opinion is absolutely as valid as anyone else's, and I respect it. It's just not more informed or better than anyone else's simply based on proximity. If that was the case you all would need to stfu and listen to me on Ferguson which would be ridiculous.

*shrug* I'm not shocked at your inability to understand basic things





And YOU tried to back YOUR opinion or belief by pointing out his open borders Senators disagreed with him along with the PC open borders media. Blah blah blah....you sure are windy TW.


Read the highlighted area....while I continue to laugh
teedubbya Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:12 AM EST
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Nope. I can respect someone's opinion without agreeing with it. I absolutely still disagree with him. No backing down there.

My use of the Senators and the local media were simply to debunk the proximity thing, not to take it to the next step and call him wrong because of it. I don't need someone else's opinion for that.

I made and will make my own arguments on Joe. Stating he is right because he lives there and has more info is just as bunk as stating they are right because they live there and have more info. It's a simple point. It's not the way I argue, because it has no merit, which is and was my point. I don't expect you to understand it but most reading this will.

*shrug* think what you want. Sometimes kids hide under the covers thinking what's outside the covers disappears. Whatever makes you feel good. And laughter is good for you. Keep laughing.
TMCTLT Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:33 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Nope. I can respect someone's opinion without agreeing with it. I absolutely still disagree with him. No backing down there.

My use of the Senators and the local media were simply to debunk the proximity thing, not to take it to the next step and call him wrong because of it. I don't need someone else's opinion for that.

I made and will make my own arguments on Joe. Stating he is right because he lives there and has more info is just as bunk as stating they are right because they live there and have more info. It's a simple point. It's not the way I argue, because it has no merit, which is and was my point. I don't expect you to understand it but most reading this will.

*shrug* think what you want. Sometimes kids hide under the covers thinking what's outside the covers disappears. Whatever makes you feel good. And laughter is good for you. Keep laughing.




It WAS used to enforce YOUR opinion period, make whatever lame excuses you'd like to say otherwise.

I will keep laughing .....You can count on it.
teedubbya Offline
#62 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:34 AM EST
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That makes absolutely no sense, but ok. I guess we just disagree with my intent.
TMCTLT Offline
#63 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:41 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
That makes absolutely no sense, but ok. I guess we just disagree with my intent.




Neither does you BS assertion that to live there gives you no more clarity or insight on the subject than someone who lives three states away.....whatever.
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:43 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Neither does you BS assertion that to live there gives you no more clarity or insight on the subject than someone who lives three states away.....whatever.



LOL
TMCTLT Offline
#65 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 7:53 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
LOL



Exactly...that's all I can do. To say that living there gives residents no more insight to the problem than you'd have living three states away IS laughable.
But then I'm sure you knew exactly how your wife felt giving birth to your children lol
teedubbya Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 8:06 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Exactly...that's all I can do. To say that living there gives residents no more insight to the problem than you'd have living three states away IS laughable.
But then I'm sure you knew exactly how your wife felt giving birth to your children lol



LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEJM36uD60M
bgz Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 8:46 AM EST
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No need to argue guys, it doesn't matter anymore anyway. Enough illegals got in to swing the vote in favor of someone that doesn't care of a bunch of drug dealers and gang members come flooding through the border.

At least Sheriff Joe held them off as well as he could for 20 years. The new guy just doesn't give a sh1t.
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#68 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 9:25 AM EST
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TW, I don't intend to spend much energy on this point and I see, from the thread count, that you have a lot more to say than I do, but let me just say that if you do not see any difference between reading or watching news from thousands of miles away and living in the place where it happens then you must think you know exactly how the people feel who are wading through the streets of Houston with their homes under water because you saw it on the evening news.
MACS Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 9:40 AM EST
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BAZINGA!
Buckwheat Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 9:46 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:

I have a bias against those in authority abusing their authority even if I might agree with them in principle. I try not to pick and choose.

For someone to be so "law and order" unless and until he disagrees with it is BS. Sheriff Joe grew into a legend in his own mind and more a problem than a solution.

Trump can pardon whomever he likes legally. That doesn't insulate him from criticism or political backlash though. I think he deserves it on this one but he doesn't care. To do so now, before sentencing and in today's environment tells you a bit about trumps base.

I'm still for Presidents being able to pardon whoever they want other than themselves. If there's a political will go for it.


+1 horse
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:10 AM EST
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DED if you can ignore the fact that others living where you do disagree with you and simply hang your opinion on you live there so you know better good on you.

I've had a long time interest in joe as has my family, all of which reside in PHX.

But if an argument over opinions is to be waged using I'm closer than you so I win, and our new standard is going to be proximity based this can be fun. I'll give you a joe. You are right and you know more than all the other folks like my family living in maricopa county, your senators and your major news outlets.

Does this new standard apply just to Joe or to all topics in here?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:24 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
BAZINGA!

Have you ever as an adult collected welfare? I've listened to your opinion on it quite a bit, but since you have no idea what it is to collect welfare as an adult I guess your opinion is greatly worthless compared to those who actually collect it?
bgz Offline
#73 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:53 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
DED if you can ignore the fact that others living where you do disagree with you and simply hang your opinion on you live there so you know better good on you.

I've had a long time interest in joe as has my family, all of which reside in PHX.

But if an argument over opinions is to be waged using I'm closer than you so I win, and our new standard is going to be proximity based this can be fun. I'll give you a joe. You are right and you know more than all the other folks like my family living in maricopa county, your senators and your major news outlets.

Does this new standard apply just to Joe or to all topics in here?




They disagree because either they or they're family members are illegal. They fly Mexican flags at protests out here. It's ridiculous.

The drug smuggling, rapes, drunk driving, etc, etc.... the list goes on and on. When they get in, they don't GAF because they know nothing is going to happen to them. What's the worst that can happen now, they sit in a cell for 48 hours then get released before ICE can pick them up because the new sheriff ran on giving illegals a fair shake and won because enough illegals got in to sway the vote?
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#74 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:55 AM EST
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Illegals got to vote ehh..,?? Think
TMCTLT Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:55 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Have you ever as an adult collected welfare? I've listened to your opinion on it quite a bit, but since you have no idea what it is to collect welfare as an adult I guess your opinion is greatly worthless compared to those who actually collect it?




Joel, what the heck does your Q have to do with THIS post???? And by your post I take it you have been on welfare? Of course his opinion would vary from those who may NOT need or deserve it...but collect it nonetheless....and don't necessarily try to get off of it.
DrafterX Offline
#76 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:56 AM EST
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I bet they're living off the welfare too... Mad
TMCTLT Offline
#77 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 10:58 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I bet they're living off the welfare too... Mad




Of course they are, some receiving OUR SS moneys too.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:10 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Joel, what the heck does your Q have to do with THIS post???? And by your post I take it you have been on welfare? Of course his opinion would vary from those who may NOT need or deserve it...but collect it nonetheless....and don't necessarily try to get off of it.

Make all the retarded assumptions you want Paul... no one expects you to be intelligent at this point...
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#79 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:12 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
They disagree because either they or they're family members are illegal. They fly Mexican flags at protests out here. It's ridiculous.

The drug smuggling, rapes, drunk driving, etc, etc.... the list goes on and on. When they get in, they don't GAF because they know nothing is going to happen to them. What's the worst that can happen now, they sit in a cell for 48 hours then get released before ICE can pick them up because the new sheriff ran on giving illegals a fair shake and won because enough illegals got in to sway the vote?


Tw's family are here illegally?
TMCTLT Offline
#80 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:17 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Make all the retarded assumptions you want Paul... no one expects you to be intelligent at this point...



So rather than answer my simple question...you choose to lash out @ me as per usual. No surprise there cupcake. You give yourself FAR and away too much credit for being of any superior intelligence when compared to ANYONE.

Pissant whiney little SJW
teedubbya Offline
#81 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:53 AM EST
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This revelation about my family explains my love of Mexican food.
MACS Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:55 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Have you ever as an adult collected welfare? I've listened to your opinion on it quite a bit, but since you have no idea what it is to collect welfare as an adult I guess your opinion is greatly worthless compared to those who actually collect it?


Have you ever actually watched "The Big Bang Theory"?
bgz Offline
#83 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 11:56 AM EST
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What's that old saying, you can take the man out of the third world country but you can't take the third world country out of the man... or something like that.
teedubbya Offline
#84 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:02 PM EST
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You have something in you?


Look it's a silly argument all the way around. Not worth inserting entire countries.
bgz Offline
#85 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:10 PM EST
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Wasn't an argument, was a joke.

Lighten up Alice!

However, sounds like your interested in taking a third in a world country... line em up boys!!! TW is the third hole on the left!
teedubbya Offline
#86 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:12 PM EST
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I was joking too. My guess is you are not inserting anything Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:14 PM EST
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Mine was an insertion joke. This whole thread became absurd so I'm going with it. And if I was any lighter I'd need new loafers like drafter.
bgz Offline
#88 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I was joking too. My guess is you are not inserting anything Mellow



No, not me, I'm not an illegal, so I won't be lining up.
MACS Offline
#89 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:17 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Mine was an insertion joke. This whole thread became absurd so I'm going with it. And if I was any lighter I'd need new loafers like drafter.


Jokes aren't allowed, I guess. Or if you tell one, and it isn't obvious to all, you're not joking you're just ignorant and stuff. LOL
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#90 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:17 PM EST
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Only illegals insert things?

How do you know if you are not one? That's the only way to know. Leave your passport at home and sneak in to another country. I bet you start inserting things. Then you will know.
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:18 PM EST
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MACS next time try one that's funny and stuff Mellow or at least makes sense
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#92 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:19 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Only illegals insert things?

How do you know if you are not one? That's the only way to know. Leave your passport at home and sneak in to another country. I bet you start inserting things. Then you will know.

That guy giving bgz those burritos is an illegal?
teedubbya Offline
#93 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:20 PM EST
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I don't know. I don't live there.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#94 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:22 PM EST
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You can still have an opinion about it... it's just less true...
teedubbya Offline
#95 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:30 PM EST
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If I liked and supported Joe but still didn't live there would my opinion be more true.... like say..... MACS?
bgz Offline
#96 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That guy giving bgz those burritos is an illegal?


He's never given me a burrito, tight wad makes me buy them... and they're not even good, probably because he's a legal white guy.
MACS Offline
#97 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:33 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If I liked and supported Joe but still didn't live there would my opinion be more true.... like say..... MACS?


My opinions are always more valid. I was in the Navy. Duh.
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#98 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:37 PM EST
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Can't argue with that.

I know my opinion on Houston doesn't matter, but is anyone else concerned someone in there whose only line of communication is cbid might get hurt because the censors won't let them know when the **** breaks?
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#99 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:37 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
He's never given me a burrito, tight wad makes me buy them... and they're not even good, probably because he's a legal white guy.

You really outta **** that sob...
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#100 Posted: Tue, Aug 29 2017, 12:39 PM EST
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Better yet, just out him on yelp as a white guy selling Mexican food... pretty much a death sentence from what i understand...
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