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So who is on board with this?
DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
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Sad part is the focus on what Trump's spokesperson might have said instead of what that racist ESPN employee said... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#52 Posted:
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Drafter. The focus is on what trump... the president of the United states... said about a private company.

Are you so dense that you don't understand that?
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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The moron Huckabee shouldn't have said what she said either during an official press briefing but that is way less important than the tweets of the moron in chief.
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted:
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He never said 'fire her'... Not talking
Abrignac Offline
#55 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Not hard to find. The tweets are still up (Jamele Hill)
"Donald Trump is a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself w/ other white supremacists.
4:54 PM - Sep 11, 2017"
"The height of white privilege is being able to ✌🏾ignore✌🏾his white supremacy, because it's of no threat to you. Well, it's a threat to me.
4:55 PM - Sep 11, 2017"
"Trump is the most ignorant, offensive president of my lifetime. His rise is a direct result of white supremacy. Period.
4:58 PM - Sep 11, 2017"
Note - these are all from her private twitter account. the same as you or I stating something on facebook or twitter or Cbid.


Then on Wed, Huckabee was asked about Hill's tweets. Her response was: "’m not sure he’s aware but I think that’s one of the more outrageous comments that anyone could make and certainly something that I think is a fireable offense by ESPN."
(note. this is during an official press conference in which Huckabee is representing the white house).

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/13/sarah-huckabee-sanders-suggests-espn-should-have-fired-jamele-hill-for-criticizing-trump/

Then this morning we get the orange moron weighing in:
http://www.salon.com/2017/09/15/donald-trump-attacks-espn-and-jemele-hill-in-morning-tweet/
"ESPN is paying a really big price for its politics (and bad programming). People are dumping it in RECORD numbers. Apologize for untruth!"

Note. President just stated that a private company has bad programming. In response to an employee of that private company having a negative opinion of the president and expressing it through their own personal twitter feed.

Not to mention the questionable accuracy of "people are dumping it in record numbers"... which I really doubt he checked before tweeting.

None of this is hard to find.


Keep drinking the Liberal Kool-Aid Victor.

1) ESPN's ratings are down. Factual - look it up.

2) Private Twitter, I thought private twitter was when one's account was blocked to the general public. Guess I'm wrong.

3) Is it wrong to think that employees of a very public company would be accountable to certain policies regarding what they post on social media if they have anything on said social media account that points to any association whatsoever to said public company? If I'm not mistaken, the SCOTUS has actually ruled in favor of a company who terminated an employee for comments on social media since the person posting the offensive comment noted an association, like Hill does on her account.

Jamele Hill's Twitter Profile wrote:
Co-host of the 6pm SportsCenter, aka The Six. Born and raised by Detroit. Grew up at Michigan State. Fourth-worst Twitter account at ESPN.


4) Salon.com??? Really??? That's as left wing as infowars.com is right wing.
Abrignac Offline
#56 Posted:
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While I'm at it, read the entire BS article. It states that a study shows that ESPN is biased in favor of progressiveness. Click the link in the story. It will take you to another salon.com article. It seems the *study* is a study of ESPN's viewers; certainly anything but, scientific. If the show is progressive and draws progressive viewers who feel progressive is the norm, then just how many of them do you think would progressive slant.

The wheels on the bus go round and round......

Edit: salon article says it's not biased in favor of progressives.
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted:
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Trump's point was to have a standard.. ESPN fired somebody for less directed at a Liberal.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
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Is this still a discussion?

Newsflash: Trump says stupid things. His response to the racist moron ESPN chick was just trump "acting stupidly".
Not an excuse. It's quite embarrassing for the sitting President to care what that race baiting fool tweets.
But the reaction from the weak minded leftists is predictable. And hilarious.

Free speech isn't being attacked.
The POTUS used his damn twitter machine to state his opinion.
It has NOT gone any further.

ESPN has not fired her.
She is not backing down. I would give her credit, except I find her opinion both idiotic and dangerous. MUCH more dangerous than Trump crying about it.
This chick somehow has followers. And the rhetoric has shifted to the point that some are accepting her baseless lie as being true.

Meanwhile, she keeps her job. Which means the White House did NOTHING.

But you wouldn't notice that. Because the media is telling you otherwise.

Buncha empty headed sheep.


frankj1 Offline
#59 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Is this still a discussion?

Newsflash: Trump says stupid things. His response to the racist moron ESPN chick was just trump "acting stupidly".
Not an excuse. It's quite embarrassing for the sitting President to care what that race baiting fool tweets.
But the reaction from the weak minded leftists is predictable. And hilarious.

Free speech isn't being attacked.
The POTUS used his damn twitter machine to state his opinion.
It has NOT gone any further.

ESPN has not fired her.
She is not backing down. I would give her credit, except I find her opinion both idiotic and dangerous. MUCH more dangerous than Trump crying about it.
This chick somehow has followers. And the rhetoric has shifted to the point that some are accepting her baseless lie as being true.

Meanwhile, she keeps her job. Which means the White House did NOTHING.

But you wouldn't notice that. Because the media is telling you otherwise.

Buncha empty headed sheep.



oh, come on now...of course it is, every time.
I'm not getting more confident about his future capability if his #1 fan keeps telling me he's just stupid every time he does something, well, stupid.
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted:
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Stupid is as stupid does...Not talking
tailgater Offline
#61 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
oh, come on now...of course it is, every time.
I'm not getting more confident about his future capability if his #1 fan keeps telling me he's just stupid every time he does something, well, stupid.


So you're saying that the ESPN girl will be fired?
And ESPN will suffer because of their political views?

Because that's the counter argument here.

Otherwise, it's just b*tching about the tweets. Which we both agree are childish.


Let me be more clear:
Free Speech has not been compromised.
In any way, shape or form.

No more so then when Obama called cops stupid. For DOING THEIR JOB.
It didn't result in the end of law enforcement.

Trumps stupidity is far LESS damning than Obama's condemnation of the Cambridge police.

But we'll dwell on the tweets and then get angry when people agree on their absurdity. As if that somehow makes your point.





tailgater Offline
#62 Posted:
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Two things have happened:

1. A stupid lady from ESPN slandered the sitting President.
and
2. The White House made a ridiculous retort.

Now, which will have the larger ramification?

Will ESPN and other media outlets put a muzzle on their analysts in fear of NOT being shut down? Rhetorical, of course. Because NOTHING will happen to her.

But one thing is 100% certain: Millions of empty headed liberals will jump on her "white supremacist" claims and will repeat it until it becomes "fact".

frankj1 Offline
#63 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So you're saying that the ESPN girl will be fired?
And ESPN will suffer because of their political views?


nope.
I said every time he does something stupid you say "not an excuse" and then say is he's stupid as an excuse...HA!

where the heck did you get all those other paragraphs from my post?
frankj1 Offline
#64 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Two things have happened:

1. A stupid lady from ESPN slandered the sitting President.
and
2. The White House made a ridiculous retort.

Now, which will have the larger ramification?

Will ESPN and other media outlets put a muzzle on their analysts in fear of NOT being shut down? Rhetorical, of course. Because NOTHING will happen to her.

But one thing is 100% certain: Millions of empty headed liberals will jump on her "white supremacist" claims and will repeat it until it becomes "fact".


well, truthfully, I think the actions from the White House will have a larger ramification, as they certainly should.

And speaking as The Lib here, all I know about what's her name I learned here from butt hurt Trumpies this week!
If she doesn't have my attention, it's gonna be real tough for her to change more than 3 dozen other empty headed Libs in America.
DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted:
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Think
Victor started this thread.... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#66 Posted:
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True, true.
frankj1 Offline
#67 Posted:
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true, true.

but he was focused on Trump's reaction to an unknown low ratings tv personality...

not an excuse, but I heard the prez did it cuz he's just stupid! not an excuse though..so give him another pass.

HA!
Speyside Offline
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Isn't he arrogant too?
Buckwheat Offline
#69 Posted:
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So who is on board with this?

Not me. I could care less what some ESPN talking head says about politics and/or what the Whitehouse's talking head has to say in response. Hell, NK is threatening war and this is what we and the the media is fixated on? Priorities people. fog
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted:
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I agree.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#71 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
nope.
I said every time he does something stupid you say "not an excuse" and then say is he's stupid as an excuse...HA!

where the heck did you get all those other paragraphs from my post?


Help me out here.

We both think that Trump's tweet was stupid.
But when I say it you think it's an excuse of some sort?




tailgater Offline
#72 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
well, truthfully, I think the actions from the White House will have a larger ramification, as they certainly should.

And speaking as The Lib here, all I know about what's her name I learned here from butt hurt Trumpies this week!
If she doesn't have my attention, it's gonna be real tough for her to change more than 3 dozen other empty headed Libs in America.


1. Explain the "larger ramification".

2. So you aren't up to date on obscure ESPN analysts, so therefore no other liberals are? Really? So you believe that Frankie Flip Phone is representative for most liberals?
You may want to rethink that.
Plus, as a cigar smoker you're an honorary conservative. At least by Massachusetts standards.
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
1. Explain the "larger ramification".

2. So you aren't up to date on obscure ESPN analysts, so therefore no other liberals are? Really? So you believe that Frankie Flip Phone is representative for most liberals?
You may want to rethink that.
Plus, as a cigar smoker you're an honorary conservative. At least by Massachusetts standards.

1-I got "larger ramification" from you! your either/or question...would the Prez have a larger one or would the nobody have a larger one? I said the prez, as it should be.

2-OK, you have an advantage over those who have not met me. I'm not really a Commie Antifatty. But I doubt I'm the only reasonable lib out there. In fact, I don't know any that meet the definitions I read here.

I've heard of the broadcaster, mostly I know of her existence because I was a fan of her partner when he wrote for the Boston Globe sports section...not Politics/Editorial section.

That said, I've also never met a lib or non-lib that would shape their political opinions based on social media snippets emanating from someone in her position...it's simply an insult to propose that libs are so simple minded they would be easy prey for her to do so. I don't speak that way about cons with whom I feel are way off the mark, I don't attribute the other side's opinions to being addle-brained, or under the hypnotic powers of Curt "The Hypocrite" Schilling.

so back to #1, the POTUS should have a far bigger one than any ESPN host, every day of the week. Can I possibly set you up for a punch line any better than that?
DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted:
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It's been a few days.. hopefully Victor is over this silliness... Mellow
delta1 Offline
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Not only has Trump displayed his own racist tendencies throughout his life, he has also exposed his misogynistic attitudes. The latest is his re-tweet of a gif showing him hitting a golf ball at Hillary and knocking her down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/us/politics/hillary-golfball-trump-tweets.html?mcubz=3

The right will excuse that also...

victor's broader point is that Trump has coarsened our expectations of how a President uses the power of his office when communicating with the public, and giving him a pass is a dangerous precedent...

as revenge, the Dems will elect someone like Roseanne Barr as President...that'll spin the heads on the right...
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted:
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The point is a real simple one. So simple I almost was expecting tail to understand. I guess I was wrong. I definitely can't make it simple enough for drafter to understand.

The president should never criticize a private company because an employee of theirs criticized him. Doesn't matter whether you think the criticism was warranted or not. The president of the United States has no business using his office to quash criticism of himself. It sets up a frightening precedence...

This idiotic double standard cry is absolute bullsh#t as we have never had a president do this.. at least not in recent history. Doesn't matter if you think ESPN is liberal or conservative or should fire her or not. That's irrelevant and between ESPN and her. Feel free to boycott ESPN or whatever.

Given how much crap I had to hear from idiots on this forum about how Obama was overstepping his power and trying to be king... now you actually have a president exerting his power to try to silence detractors.... and you just don't care.

F'ing morons.
DrafterX Offline
#77 Posted:
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It's a funny video... How is it different than SNL..?? Huh
cacman Offline
#78 Posted:
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Only Congressmen should use their office to criticize private companies and their employees commentary that offends them.
Damn double-standard
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3031317
jjanecka Offline
#79 Posted:
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Victor you are right on this one. At least as far as the government going vocal on the views of a private citizen. I agree, the government has no right to shame people for their public commentary.
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
1-I got "larger ramification" from you! your either/or question...would the Prez have a larger one or would the nobody have a larger one? I said the prez, as it should be.

2-OK, you have an advantage over those who have not met me. I'm not really a Commie Antifatty. But I doubt I'm the only reasonable lib out there. In fact, I don't know any that meet the definitions I read here.

I've heard of the broadcaster, mostly I know of her existence because I was a fan of her partner when he wrote for the Boston Globe sports section...not Politics/Editorial section.

That said, I've also never met a lib or non-lib that would shape their political opinions based on social media snippets emanating from someone in her position...it's simply an insult to propose that libs are so simple minded they would be easy prey for her to do so. I don't speak that way about cons with whom I feel are way off the mark, I don't attribute the other side's opinions to being addle-brained, or under the hypnotic powers of Curt "The Hypocrite" Schilling.

so back to #1, the POTUS should have a far bigger one than any ESPN host, every day of the week. Can I possibly set you up for a punch line any better than that?


Frank,
There will be zero repercussions from the white house against her or anyone else calling the president names.
There will absolutely be people calling the president a white supremacist. And her tweet is adding to the slander.

Remember that prior to the election nobody called Trump a white supremacist.
And he leads a very visible life.

But now, because they hate that he won, they call him one.
And it sticks.
This chick got her information from lies. And she is perpetuating the lies from a very visible platform.

The president should be held to a higher standard than a sports host. But his twitter fetish will have zero impact on her and zero impact on free speech (which is the crux of the discussion). Meanwhile, her tweets are feeding a very real fire in the vacant minds of those who hate trump.
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
Not only has Trump displayed his own racist tendencies throughout his life, he has also exposed his misogynistic attitudes. The latest is his re-tweet of a gif showing him hitting a golf ball at Hillary and knocking her down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/us/politics/hillary-golfball-trump-tweets.html?mcubz=3

The right will excuse that also...

victor's broader point is that Trump has coarsened our expectations of how a President uses the power of his office when communicating with the public, and giving him a pass is a dangerous precedent...

as revenge, the Dems will elect someone like Roseanne Barr as President...that'll spin the heads on the right...


Wait.
You're saying the golfball gif is a sign of misogyny?
LOL!

And who said Trump tweeted it? Your link has different accounts but not one from Trump.



tailgater Offline
#82 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
The point is a real simple one. So simple I almost was expecting tail to understand. I guess I was wrong. I definitely can't make it simple enough for drafter to understand.

The president should never criticize a private company because an employee of theirs criticized him. Doesn't matter whether you think the criticism was warranted or not. The president of the United States has no business using his office to quash criticism of himself. It sets up a frightening precedence...

This idiotic double standard cry is absolute bullsh#t as we have never had a president do this.. at least not in recent history. Doesn't matter if you think ESPN is liberal or conservative or should fire her or not. That's irrelevant and between ESPN and her. Feel free to boycott ESPN or whatever.

Given how much crap I had to hear from idiots on this forum about how Obama was overstepping his power and trying to be king... now you actually have a president exerting his power to try to silence detractors.... and you just don't care.

F'ing morons.


LOL!

"exerting his powers"??

Tell me what has happened to her. Tell me how the White House and Donald Trump have impacted her. Tell us.

victor809 Offline
#83 Posted:
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... dude tail. I really thought it was simple enough you would understand.

I'm sorry. ... I cannot make it any simpler.
frankj1 Offline
#84 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Frank,
There will be zero repercussions from the white house against her or anyone else calling the president names.
There will absolutely be people calling the president a white supremacist. And her tweet is adding to the slander.

Remember that prior to the election nobody called Trump a white supremacist.
And he leads a very visible life.

But now, because they hate that he won, they call him one.
And it sticks.
This chick got her information from lies. And she is perpetuating the lies from a very visible platform.

The president should be held to a higher standard than a sports host. But his twitter fetish will have zero impact on her and zero impact on free speech (which is the crux of the discussion). Meanwhile, her tweets are feeding a very real fire in the vacant minds of those who hate trump.

you always know the reasons those on the left believe what they believe...what an advantage it must be in a game of poker.

You know she got her info from lies. HA!
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted:
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Actually trump has been called a racist for a long time starting with some early discrimination lawsuits, the Central Park 5, and of course the recent birtherism. There's pretty good reason to believe his dad was arrested marching with the kkk as well, but no charges were ever filed.

I don't know or think he's a racist but the accusation has been there a long time as has the accusation of ties to white supremacists. It's nothing new, right or wrong.

frankj1 Offline
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I'm cranky and I'm not having fun on this thread.
Gonna go look for my humor.
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted:
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Ya.. Victor is taking this pretty hard... Should prolly let it fall off the page... Surely there's somethin important to be outraged about out there... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#88 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Ya.. Victor is taking this pretty hard... Should prolly let it fall off the page... Surely there's somethin important to be outraged about out there... Mellow

I know, I can't find my point
DrafterX Offline
#89 Posted:
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Well, at least you didn't lose your groove... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#90 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
... dude tail. I really thought it was simple enough you would understand.

I'm sorry. ... I cannot make it any simpler.


Look.
We both agree (gasp!) that Trump/White House should NOT have tweeted the response. It's NOT what we want coming from our highest office.
(Frank, don't read the above. You'll think it's making excuses...)

But the over-reaction from the liberals and the Trump haters is comical.
Free Speech is alive and well.
That untalented ESPN host didn't even get a slap on her substantial wrist.

Heck, she probably has GAINED popularity from her slanderous statements about our sitting president.

So that's the difference between you and I, Victor.
I wince and cringe at the stupidity from the right.
You celebrate and cheer the stupidity from the left. Even when it has greater overall impact despite your feigned outrage.

Is that simple enough for you?
tailgater Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
you always know the reasons those on the left believe what they believe...what an advantage it must be in a game of poker.

You know she got her info from lies. HA!


So she got her info from the truth?
Trump really is a white supremacist?

Do tell.

DrafterX Offline
#92 Posted:
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If Trump supports himself then he's a racist too... Mellow
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Actually trump has been called a racist for a long time starting with some early discrimination lawsuits, the Central Park 5, and of course the recent birtherism. There's pretty good reason to believe his dad was arrested marching with the kkk as well, but no charges were ever filed.

I don't know or think he's a racist but the accusation has been there a long time as has the accusation of ties to white supremacists. It's nothing new, right or wrong.



That's interesting.
I do recall something about a discrimination lawsuit in relation to landlord shenanigans. But that was socioeconomic, not race.

Either way, it's a stretch to call him a white supremacist.
And by "stretch", I mean a blatant lie.



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DrafterX wrote:
If Trump supports himself then he's a racist too... Mellow

does that make Trump's chair a racist?It supports him when he sits......Think

Sarcasm
DrafterX Offline
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I dunno.. whoever made the chair prolly is tho.. Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I dunno.. whoever made the chair prolly is tho.. Mellow

Yeah,that sounds about right.........damn chairmakers! Not talking
teedubbya Offline
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tailgater wrote:
That's interesting.
I do recall something about a discrimination lawsuit in relation to landlord shenanigans. But that was socioeconomic, not race.

Either way, it's a stretch to call him a white supremacist.
And by "stretch", I mean a blatant lie.






No it was racial. An accusation. I am not saying he is a racist. I am saying he has been accused of such long before he became a politician. As was his father. Just a point of fact. Right or wrong the accusation was there. Nothing new. And his father was accused of being or being sympathetic to White Supremacists. As for T... sometimes he knows who David Duke is other times he does not depending on his blood sugar or something.
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
No it was racial. An accusation. I am not saying he is a racist. I am saying he has been accused of such long before he became a politician. As was his father. Just a point of fact. Right or wrong the accusation was there. Nothing new. And his father was accused of being or being sympathetic to White Supremacists. As for T... sometimes he knows who David Duke is other times he does not depending on his blood sugar or something.


David Duke is Bill Ayers.
teedubbya Offline
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Ah yes. The expected response.
DrafterX Offline
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I'm still expecting Victor to call him an idiot.. Mellow
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