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DrafterX Offline
#51 Posted:
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Well, I'm not sure you can stand by me then... Not talking
SteveS Offline
#52 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
A more nuanced breakdown. But I don't expect any of the individuals here to read it or care...


Piers Morgan is a complete idiot and nothing he could possibly have to say on any subject could be of the slightest interest ...
MACS Offline
#53 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Just agree the NFL is hypocritical and we're cool.. Mellow


“Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Items to celebrate anniversaries or memorable events, or to honor or commemorate individuals, such as helmet decals, and arm bands and jersey patches on players’ uniforms, are prohibited unless approved in advance by the League office. All such items approved by the League office, if any, must relate to team or League events or personages. The League will not grant permission for any club or player to wear, display, or otherwise convey messages, through helmet decals, arm bands, jersey patches, or other items affixed to game uniforms or equipment, which relate to political activities or causes, other non-football events, causes or campaigns, or charitable causes or campaigns. Further, any such approved items must be modest in size, tasteful, non-commercial, and noncontroversial; must not be worn for more than one football season; and if approved for use by a specific team, must not be worn by players on other teams in the League.”

Remember when the Cowboys wanted to wear stickers to support the slain officers in Dallas? NFL said no.

Remember when one football player wanted to wear sneakers that had stars and stripes on 9/11? NFL said no.

Yep... they're hypocrites.
tailgater Offline
#54 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I appreciate it ewok. Most don't bother... heck look at tail who the instant the author suggests an athlete deserves anything ... stops reading. Because they aren't human beings I guess?... just toys to dance for his entertainment and once they stop being entertaining he throws a tantrum.


LOL!
You forgot to mention skin color.
tailgater Offline
#55 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
That's the purpose of the word "guess" yes. Congrats you pass 1st grade level English.

...jesus you make me seriously question the education in this country....


You should question it.
You're highly educated, yet jump to unrelated conclusions simply because you hate trump.

I disagree with Piers Morgan? Must be because I dehumanize athletes.

Great conclusion.

This is what happens when a liberal goes off script.

tailgater Offline
#56 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
Do black players on the Broncos get a hazardous duty bonus?


Pure awesome!

tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't give a crap what they do. I dont even care if they show the anthem on tv or who sits or stands. The only person I can control is me. They can do what they want. I choose not to be outraged.


Unrelated: KC is 3-0.


Gene363 Offline
#58 Posted:
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One thing I know after reading this thread, Zombies will have someone looking after their right to eat brains. Victor will be defending their right to do what they do right up to the point he is caught feeding them homeless guys that pee on his neighborhood light poles.
cacman Offline
#59 Posted:
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Remember when the Rams protested with the "Hands-up, Don't Shoot" (which turned out to be a complete lie), and the NFL did nothing.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/01/nfl-discipline-st-louis-rams-players-hands-dont-shoot
Abrignac Offline
#60 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You didn't say "that particular one", so I wasn't asking you if you knew who I was referring to.

You don't want to listen to a non-american's opinion... that's fine. Probably a corollary to the cbid location rule.

If you bother to read the article tho, he points out that he originally had the opinion you did, and after CK altered his protest method, he altered his opinion.

But that's fine.


Like I said before I really DGAF what his opinion is regarding flag etiquette. He's not an American citizen so IMHO his opinion isn't worth a snake turd.

Perhaps you didn't understand what I posted previously. The one thing that every casket bearing remains of a US serviceman or servicewoman have in common is they are ALL draped with the stars and stripes.

IDGAF what people want to protest. Those rights are guaranteed by the first amendment which was bought and paid for with the remains of brave soldiers whose remains were palled with an American flag.
MACS Offline
#61 Posted:
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Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.
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#62 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.

what happens when several owners support the players?

though I suspect (speculation again?) they rallied behind the players against being called S.O.B's who should be fired by the President!...even if personally against the silent protests.
Abrignac Offline
#63 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
what happens when several owners support the players?

though I suspect (speculation again?) they rallied behind the players against being called S.O.B's who should be fired by the President!...even if personally against the silent protests.


Then the owners are hypocrites. Had they insisted the players follow the manual to begin with we wouldn't be having this discussion.
frankj1 Offline
#64 Posted:
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so then, fire the owners too?
Abrignac Offline
#65 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
so then, fire the owners too?


Nope, boycott them. I am.
MACS Offline
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Let us not forget that free speech is NOT protected while one is at work.

If I decided to protest something while at work, in uniform, I would be justifiably fired. If I decided to protest while NOT at work, but in uniform, I would be justifiably fired.

It's in our general orders... just as it is in their operations manual.
MACS Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Nope, boycott them. I am.


Yep. Not watching, not attending, not buying merchandise... not clicking on websites... nada.
jjanecka Offline
#68 Posted:
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I bet they're gonna try and pull the anthem
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Nope, boycott them. I am.

there ya go.
teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted:
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And get off my lawn
frankj1 Offline
#71 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
And get off my lawn

but it's the only place with good reception for the game.
Gene363 Offline
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This is from a former Command Chaplain; It's a longer read, but please do so!!! God bless the USA!

Having had a grandfather, father, father in law, and son serve in the military here are some thoughts from a patriot. After serving over 30 years in the military I also advocate that we all have freedom in this great country to protest, but the flag is not the platform to use to express anger and frustration. The flag means too much to so many...for all who have served gave some, and some gave all. Here is the quote:
You want to take a knee?

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn.Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.

Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon...Anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles.There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know.

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat..Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress...Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.

There's a lot of places to take a knee. Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.

While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken...but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee."

You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are...but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired...

If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray hi is the one who provides those things.

But there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this...

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

By Stanislaus Drew'
victor809 Offline
#73 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
LOL!
You forgot to mention skin color.


Huh...I just assumed you were being an entitled little twit because you wanted all of them to just shut up and entertain you. I wasn't figuring you only wanted one skin color to shut up and dance.

I guess this is something that was on your mind though
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Gene363 wrote:
One thing I know after reading this thread, Zombies will have someone looking after their right to eat brains. Victor will be defending their right to do what they do right up to the point he is caught feeding them homeless guys that pee on his neighborhood light poles.


1 - depends. do zombies poop? If they do, I'm not trading one useless street ****ter for another.
2 - If they don't poop, then my neighborhood will have the fewest homeless and fattest zombies before anyone were to even consider the concept of zombie rights.
victor809 Offline
#75 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Like I said before I really DGAF what his opinion is regarding flag etiquette. He's not an American citizen so IMHO his opinion isn't worth a snake turd.

Perhaps you didn't understand what I posted previously. The one thing that every casket bearing remains of a US serviceman or servicewoman have in common is they are ALL draped with the stars and stripes.

IDGAF what people want to protest. Those rights are guaranteed by the first amendment which was bought and paid for with the remains of brave soldiers whose remains were palled with an American flag.


Meh. I don't generally discount someone's decision-making process simply because they don't live in this country. It isn't like he can't understand the concept of flags.

But regardless, the rights were bought by the lives of servicemen. That means they have rights (and whatever repercussions fall from the exercising of those rights) just as you and I do. I'm not gonna tell someone how they can and cannot exercise their rights.... nor am I really going to get too upset how they exercise them.

Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.
Mathen Offline
#76 Posted:
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My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it
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Gene363 wrote:
One thing I know after reading this thread, Zombies will have someone looking after their right to eat brains. Victor will be defending their right to do what they do right up to the point he is caught feeding them homeless guys that pee on his neighborhood light poles.



Georgetown Rugby rules!!!
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#78 Posted:
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Wanna know what Hillary thinks.....

In a new interview to promote her book with Zerlina Maxwell for the "SiriusXM Town Hall," set to stream Monday night, Hillary Clinton responded to both President Donald Trump's attacks on NFL players who choose to kneel during the national anthem and the recent revelations that Jared Kushner used a private email account to conduct White House business. "I think it’s deeply troubling that the president would be attacking black athletes for expressing their opinions peacefully," Clinton said, adding, "I just couldn’t help thinking that he has attacked these black athletes for peacefully protesting, but he doesn’t really attack white supremacists, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klanners, or Vladimir Putin, who interfered in our election." She said she found the comments particularly disturbing because Trump made his comments during a "desperate" time for the people of Puerto Rico. "I’m not sure he knows that Puerto Ricans are American citizens," Clinton remarked. The former secretary of state also blasted "the hypocrisy of this administration, who knew there was no real scandal," with her private email server, but made it the number one issue of Trump's campaign against her. "It’s just the height of hypocrisy," Clinton said.




Wanna know what I think..?? Huh
JadeRose Offline
#79 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Well, I'm not sure you can stand by me then... Not talking




Tee doesn't want to stand next to you, Drafter. He wants to kneel in front of you.
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Meh. I don't generally discount someone's decision-making process simply because they don't live in this country. It isn't like he can't understand the concept of flags.

But regardless, the rights were bought by the lives of servicemen. That means they have rights (and whatever repercussions fall from the exercising of those rights) just as you and I do. I'm not gonna tell someone how they can and cannot exercise their rights.... nor am I really going to get too upset how they exercise them.

Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.



So then you fully support white supremacists and/or rascists who want to excercise their rights as well.
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#81 Posted:
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Mathen wrote:
My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it

so easily understood.

missed you here, bro.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:


Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.


The fact that you have to ask that question clears up a lot of things.

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#83 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.




this should clear up any questions... all they had to do was disciplined Kaperdick... Not talking
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Mathen wrote:
My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it



I think you put it way better than I did or could have. It has been bugging me greatly, especially since it became a subject here and I had tried to say exactly what you are stating but just could not quite articulate what you have put forth. I thank you sir.
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Read the Piers Morgan statement. Though about it and disagree stongly. He is entitled to his opinion. I find it wrong. Protest in a manner that doesn't piss off the majority of America.
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TMCTLT wrote:
You owe me for wasting my time...


Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. fog
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The "Power Salute" from the 1968 Olympics was not widely accepted either even though the athletes turned on the podium to face their flags, and to hear the American national anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner". Each athlete raised a black-gloved fist, and kept them raised until the anthem had finished. In addition, Smith, Carlos, and Australian silver medalist Peter Norman all wore human rights badges on their jackets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute

It's clear by the NFL's lack of discipline, their hiring practices, and public support of kneeling during the Anthem that the NFL is in fact a racist organization.
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Buckwheat wrote:
Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. fog




You're right Buckwheat.. We should send the illegals to North Korea..!! ThumpUp
tailgater Offline
#89 Posted:
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It appears that most of the same people who are supporting the players "rights" to kneel during our Anthem are the ones who cried foul when Tim Tebow kneeled to pray.

To recap:
Kneel down in a short, personal, private prayer = offensive.
Kneel during our National Anthem to protest America = true patriot.

*taken from Liberal Logic and other Leftist Oxymorons. Author unknown. Verified by snopes.

teedubbya Offline
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They should move all teams to altitude
teedubbya Offline
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Did folks in here bitch about tebow? I don't remember. I just hunk he lacked talent.
teedubbya Offline
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Hunk is better than think. I'll leave it.
tailgater Offline
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Freud would have a field day with you.
teedubbya Offline
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Only if he bought me dinner first. I'm not easy.
MACS Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
this should clear up any questions... all they had to do was disciplined Kaperdick... Not talking


It clears the whole thing up. The NFL is ignoring its own manual.

Mike Rowe has it right... It's about what people will tolerate. I, and many others, have tuned out because we're tired of the foolishness.

NOBODY in this country is oppressed. Anyone living here is free to pursue the American dream. Nothing is holding them back; not race, not religion, not ethnicity, not socioeconomic background... nothing. How bad do you want it, and how hard are you willing to work to get it?

These athletes should know that. They didn't get to the NFL by not putting in the work at every level. Their efforts were rewarded with 6 and 7 figure salaries. Many others had the talent, but didn't put in the work.
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Buckwheat wrote:
Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. fog



YES, yes it is. I've no time for this nonsense, these fuggers are simply using their platform and OPPORTUNITY to continue to STIRv THE RACIAL POT.....nothing more. AND until we ignore them it will not go away, they will continue to set up one hurtle after another for you to jump through. Enjoy the shenanigans though.
cacman Offline
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What is truly pathetic is that this "protest" has now morphed into a protest of the President, supported by Congressmen and celebrities. Far from its original meaning.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congresswoman-takes-a-knee-on-the-house-floor-to-protest-donald-trumps-nfl-remarks/ar-AAstRdb
TMCTLT Offline
#98 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
What is truly pathetic is that this "protest" has now morphed into a protest of the President, supported by Congressmen and celebrities. Far from its original meaning.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congresswoman-takes-a-knee-on-the-house-floor-to-protest-donald-trumps-nfl-remarks/ar-AAstRdb




And I'm certain all those who voted for the broad ate it up too.
DrafterX Offline
#99 Posted:
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Think I got it figured out.. if they kneel they have to have a mandatory full knee replacement surgery... That'll keep them upright... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#100 Posted:
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Yall are doing a great job of ignoring them.
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