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#151 Posted:
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Burner02 wrote:
NFL national anthem flap sees Steelers coach Mike Tomlin rap Alejandro Villanueva

For Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin, being “respectful of our football team” trumped the right of Steelers offensive tackle Alejandro Villanueva to show respect for the national anthem.

A former Army Ranger, Villanueva was the only Steeler to break from the team's orders and come out of the tunnel Sunday in Chicago to stand for "The Star-Spangled Banner."

Speaking after his team's 23-17 loss to the Bears, Tomlin appeared to take a swipe at the Bronze Star recipient's decision.

“Like I said, I was looking for 100 percent participation, we were gonna be respectful of our football team,” Tomlin said.

Tomlin told the media that, prior to kickoff Sunday, the Steelers held a team meeting and decided, though not unanimously, to not come out of the locker room for the national anthem. Tomlin added the intent was to have his team focus on the game and not President Trump’s comments blasting players who chose to protest during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner."

“Many of them felt like something needed to be done. I asked those guys to discuss it and whatever they discussed that we have 100 percent participation or we do nothing,” Tomlin said after the game. “They discussed it for an appropriate length of time and they couldn’t come to an understanding, so they chose to remove themselves from it. They were not going to be disrespectful in the anthem so they chose not to participate, but at the same time many of them were not going to accept the words of the president.”

Villanueva, who served three tours in Afghanistan, decided to stand his ground instead and placed his hand over his heart while the anthem played.

“We’re not politicians. We’re coaches and professional athletes," Tomlin said Sunday. "If those of us or individuals choose to participate in politics in some way I’m going to be supportive of that. But when we come out of locker rooms, we come out of locker rooms to play football games."

There appeared to be some confusion in the Steelers locker room after Villanueva came out of the tunnel for the anthem.

Offensive tackle Chris Hubbard told Penn Live that the players, by a slim majority, voted in favor of staying off the field instead of standing on the sideline holding hands.

We thought we were all in attention with the same agreement, obviously," linebacker James Harrison told the website. "But, I guess we weren't."

Hubbard, however, said everyone in the locker room accepted that Villanueva would be exempt from the team's decision.

"Al was cool with it, with whatever we went through. He was on board. That's Al, man," Hubbard said. "He's a good guy."

Villanueva has previously spoken out about former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s decision to sit and kneel during the national anthem, saying his actions may “send the wrong message.”

“I don’t know if the most effective way is to sit down during the national anthem with a country that’s providing you freedom, providing you $16 million a year...when there are black minorities that are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan for less than $20,000 a year," Villanueva told ESPN in 2016.

He added: “I will be the first one to hold hands with Colin Kaepernick and do something about the way minorities are being treated in the United States, the injustice that is happening with police brutality, the justice system, inequalities in pay. You can’t do it by looking away from the people that are trying to protect our freedom and our country.”

Broncos defensive end Derek Wolfe also told ESPN he would be standing during the national anthem Sunday because he wanted to be "paying tribute to the men and women who have given their lives for our freedom."

"I stand because I respect the men who died in real battle so I have the freedom to battle on the field...but everyone these days likes to find a reason to protest and that’s their right," Wolfe told ESPN, according to The Washington Post.



From an article dated September 12, 2016

Every member of the Pittsburgh Steelers stood for Monday night's National Anthem, and Alejandro Villanueva was a big reason why. 
According to ESPN's Monday Night Football broadcast team, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin that said part of the reason why every member of the team would stand for the National Anthem was that they wanted to honor Villanueva, a military veteran that received the Bronze Star after serving three tours of duty in Afghanistan. 
"I know all of our players will be standing out of respect for their teammate, Alejandro Villanueva," Tomlin said. 


What a difference a year makes.
TMCTLT Offline
#152 Posted:
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^^^

Now now...NO facts allowed here.




And this just in :

Let's teach them young and they'll be disrespectful for life!!! WTG Mom d'oh!


http://www.dailywire.com/news/21693/6-year-old-takes-knee-during-pledge-allegiance-hank-berrien?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=092917-news&utm_campaign=position1
tailgater Offline
#153 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Cool,maybe I'll see you there.........don't forget to keep your phone charged......lolBeer


Looks like I'll be in a different lot.
La famglia de tailgater is going to be mostly all counted for and I'll be with them on the stadium side.

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#154 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
^^^

Now now...NO facts allowed here.




And this just in :

Let's teach them young and they'll be disrespectful for life!!! WTG Mom d'oh!


http://www.dailywire.com/news/21693/6-year-old-takes-knee-during-pledge-allegiance-hank-berrien?utm_source=dwemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=092917-news&utm_campaign=position1



This turns my stomach, I think it is hilarious that people want to show disrespect but yet demand respect for the disrespect shown. But I will just revert to the sarcasm that I used when I seen my wife doing this sort of thing with my son.

To MOM: You need to pop your titty out the boys mouth. If not your son will grow up to be a p*ssy wiped version of a Man and will never be accepted in the majority of Men or most of society. It is just how society works, is it right I don't know but it is how it is, but I do know that because that is how the majority is you are hampering the success of the child's future. Most real women don't want no Sissy boy. There's a crisis of coddling in American families as it stands. Most real women wont deal with a Coddled sissy boy well, unless shes like the mom and loves DRAMA and no man I know wants that crap in his life. Just my opinion which means nothing. I think mom should have told him, Welcome to the real world. You made your stand now deal with the consequences.

I honestly feel this is why we have allot of the issues today. I have no respect for those that don't show respect. I have no respect for Men with no work ethic. I have no respect for men that does not stand for what is right even if it means swallowing some pride to do it. We now live in the "Its all about ME" world and I feel this is a good example of why. My brother is of this generation, and I will say I have no respect for him as a man because he will shit on people to move ahead. He will leave the weak behind to his gain. He will take from those that are weak with out thinking twice. To me that's not a Man nor what a Man should be. My mother cries when we talk about the issues with my brother and the kind of man he has become. She cant figure out where he got this "Its all about Me" concept because this was not something that he was taught. I personally think it came from the influence of others from that generation.

The town needs an Enema! That's all I am going to say about that. Whistle
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#155 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I have a new phone.
Inspired by Franks flip phone.

Still working on details.
Might be on stadium side instead of P10.
I'll let you know.

it has a secret keyboard
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#156 Posted:
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Trump can f**** off. This is none of his business. He should be thinking of the people in Puerto Rico and the USVI and get his inept cabinet members off their butt.
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#157 Posted:
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Mellow
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#158 Posted:
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Markemiles wrote:
Trump can f**** off. This is none of his business. He should be thinking of the people in Puerto Rico and the USVI and get his inept cabinet members off their butt.


And, rather than focus on what the president is doing, you're contributing time and money to Puerto Rican relief efforts, right ???
DrafterX Offline
#159 Posted:
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Trump can't have an opinion..?? Huh
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#160 Posted:
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I would suspend the 6 year old for a day every time he kneeled during the pledge of allegiance. This would upset the snivelers, but who cares. If you don't like living here go somewhere else.
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#161 Posted:
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this guy making sense and stuff. must be an "uncle tom"

https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2017/10/03/blacks-vs-police-n2389488

Quote:
Let's throw out a few numbers so we can put in perspective the NFL players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Many say they are protesting against police treatment of blacks and racial discrimination. We might ask just how much sense their protest makes.

According to The Washington Post, 737 people have been shot and killed by police this year in the United States. Of that number, there were 329 whites, 165 blacks, 112 Hispanics, 24 members of other races and 107 people whose race was unknown. In Illinois, home to one of our most dangerous cities -- Chicago -- 18 people have been shot and killed by police this year. In the city itself, police have shot and killed ten people and shot and wounded ten others. Somebody should ask the kneeling black NFL players why they are protesting this kind of killing in the Windy City and ignoring other sources of black death.

Here are the Chicago numbers for the ignored deaths. So far in 2017, there have been 533 murders and 2,880 shootings. On average, a person is shot every two hours and 17 minutes and murdered every 12 1/2 hours. In 2016, when Colin Kaepernick started taking a knee, Chicago witnessed 806 murders and 4,379 shootings. It turns out that most of the murder victims are black. Adding to the tragedy is the fact that Chicago has a 12.7 percent murder clearance rate. That means that when a black person is murdered, his perpetrator is found and charged with his murder less than 13 percent of the time.

Similar statistics regarding police killing blacks versus blacks killing blacks apply to many of our predominantly black urban centers, such as Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, St. Louis and Oakland. Many Americans, including me, see the black NFL player protest of police brutality as pathetic, useless showboating. Seeing as these players have made no open protest against the thousands of blacks being murdered and maimed by blacks, they must view it as trivial in comparison with the police killings. Most of the police killings fit into the category of justified homicide.

NFL players are not by themselves. How much condemnation do black politicians, civil rights leaders, and liberal whites give to the wanton black homicides in our cities? When have you heard them condemning the very low clearance rate, whereby most black murderers get away with murder? Do you believe they would be just as silent if it were the Ku Klux Klan committing the murders?

What's to blame for this mayhem? If you ask an intellectual, a leftist or an academic in a sociology or psychology department, he will tell you that it is caused by poverty, discrimination and a lack of opportunities. But the black murder rate and other crime statistics in the 1940s and '50s were not nearly so high as they are now. I wonder whether your intellectual, leftist or academic would explain that we had less black poverty, less racial discrimination and far greater opportunities for blacks during earlier periods than we do today. He'd have to be an unrepentant idiot to make such an utterance.

So what can be done? Black people need to find new heroes. Right now, at least in terms of the support given, their heroes are criminals such as Baltimore's Freddie Gray, Ferguson's Michael Brown and Florida's Trayvon Martin. Black support tends to go toward the criminals in the community rather than to the overwhelming number of people in the community who are law-abiding. That needs to end. What also needs to end is the lack of respect for and cooperation with police officers. Some police are crooked, but black people are likelier to be victims of violent confrontations with police officers than whites simply because blacks commit more violent crimes than whites per capita.

For a race of people, these crime statistics are by no means flattering, but if something good is to be done about it, we cannot fall prey to the blame games that black politicians, black NFL players, civil rights leaders and white liberals want to play. If their vision is accepted, we can expect little improvement of the status quo.
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#162 Posted:
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Dumb article
TMCTLT Offline
#163 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Dumb article



That was the weakest response ever Victor, article's SPOT ON and you know it.....and so do the KNEELERS
TMCTLT Offline
#164 Posted:
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Markemiles wrote:
Trump can f**** off. This is none of his business. He should be thinking of the people in Puerto Rico and the USVI and get his inept cabinet members off their butt.



Nice first post cupcake, were you sheltered and safe when you typed this? The word Parrot comes to mind here....do you have ANY idea the work that needed to be done BEFORE aid could be distributed there????
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#165 Posted:
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Since Collin Kapernick started his "I'm not good enough to play/ BLM" protest the NFL's ratings are down 17%.

The league is holding emergency meetings as their sponsors are fielding enough calls that they are yapping at the league.

LMAO.
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#166 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
That was the weakest response ever Victor, article's SPOT ON and you know it.....and so do the KNEELERS


No. The article doesn't deserve any more credit than that. Technically neither do you, as I've heard you use the same dumb argument before. It's no wonder you think it's a smart article.

If you can't tell the difference between the issue of a government supported and controlled police force potentially targeting a specific race, and general violence then you've lived in a dumb little bubble. Doesn't matter if general violence kills millions and millions. The two can never be compared. In general violence there is at least a chance of justice, of seeing the criminal tired and convicted.

But you keep beating that dumb drum...
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#167 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Since Collin Kapernick started his "I'm not good enough to play/ BLM" protest the NFL's ratings are down 17%.

The league is holding emergency meetings as their sponsors are fielding enough calls that they are yapping at the league.

LMAO.


Dude protests what he perceives to be racial injustice and Z's reaction is "Ha Ha the league is losing ratings and may lose sponsors"....

Keeping it classy Z. Keeping it classy.

What does money and fans have to do with protesting any issue, whether it be racial or abortion or religion?
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#168 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
this guy making sense and stuff. must be an "uncle tom"

https://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2017/10/03/blacks-vs-police-n2389488



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams
victor809 Offline
#169 Posted:
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He's a person. Doesbt mean he can't write an entire article of false equivalency.


TMCTLT Offline
#170 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
No. The article doesn't deserve any more credit than that. Technically neither do you, as I've heard you use the same dumb argument before. It's no wonder you think it's a smart article.

If you can't tell the difference between the issue of a government supported and controlled police force potentially targeting a specific race, and general violence then you've lived in a dumb little bubble. Doesn't matter if general violence kills millions and millions. The two can never be compared. In general violence there is at least a chance of justice, of seeing the criminal tired and convicted.

But you keep beating that dumb drum...



SOSDD from you....your a race baiter just like Cappersnickerdoodle. Tell me sumthin racebaiter....why is it that virtually NO OTHER IF ANY other NFL players kneeled and pouted with Cappy when she first started kneeling? BTW for context ( done while Barry squatted in the WH. and constantly stirred the racial pot)

Not until Donald Trump was nominated did the other SJW's join him in his protest. So this has become a protest of DONALD TRUMP not blacks being shot by LEO's.....so keep tossing your race card.
MACS Offline
#171 Posted:
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https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

Abstract:
This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.

What about a study done by a black Harvard professor? The 'kneelers' are protesting blacks being killed by police, right?
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#172 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
[h]


SOSDD from you....your a race baiter just like Cappersnickerdoodle. Tell me sumthin racebaiter....why is it that virtually NO OTHER IF ANY other NFL players kneeled and pouted with Cappy when she first started kneeling? BTW for context ( done while Barry squatted in the WH. and constantly stirred the racial pot)

Not until Donald Trump was nominated did the other SJW's join him in his protest. So this has become a protest of DONALD TRUMP not blacks being shot by LEO's.....so keep tossing your race card.


This word salad of yours is meaningless.

your argument is that because only one player chose to protest that..... what?

You are not sounding smart. The things you are saying are not smart. Maybe you need to sit for a little and compose your thoughts, write something out in a straightforward manner... state the theme of your post, your supporting arguments, that sort of thing. This is just a senseless mess.
victor809 Offline
#173 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/fryer/publications/empirical-analysis-racial-differences-police-use-force

Abstract:
This paper explores racial differences in police use of force. On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police. Adding controls that account for important context and civilian behavior reduces, but cannot fully explain, these disparities. On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account. We argue that the patterns in the data are consistent with a model in which police officers are utility maximizers, a fraction of which have a preference for discrimination, who incur relatively high expected costs of officer-involved shootings.

What about a study done by a black Harvard professor? The 'kneelers' are protesting blacks being killed by police, right?


now this is interesting.

I have to take a while to read the study. On the surface he is showing difference in arrest methods etc, but no statistical difference in odds of shooting. This applies to the argument and is worth looking at. Thank you MACS.
TMCTLT Offline
#174 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
This word salad of yours is meaningless.

your argument is that because only one player chose to protest that..... what?

You are not sounding smart. The things you are saying are not smart. Maybe you need to sit for a little and compose your thoughts, write something out in a straightforward manner... state the theme of your post, your supporting arguments, that sort of thing. This is just a senseless mess.



You ARE a race baiting SOB....it's just that simple. For someone who THINKS he's smart and maybe even has a piece of paper to show as much ( LMAO ) your one dumb SOB. You are a senseless mess....maybe you need to come up with a better argument.
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#175 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
You ARE a race baiting SOB....it's just that simple. For someone who THINKS he's smart and maybe even has a piece of paper to show as much ( LMAO ) your one dumb SOB. You are a senseless mess....maybe you need to come up with a better argument.


Well... that's an interesting theme for your post. But you neglected to provide any supporting arguments.

I think you should try to do better.
TMCTLT Offline
#176 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Well... that's an interesting theme for your post. But you neglected to provide any supporting arguments.

I think you should try to do better.



Show me where I'm wrong about NO OTHER NFL members joining the whining little SOB during his protest UNTIL TRUMP WAS ELECTED.....


SHOW ME
victor809 Offline
#177 Posted:
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Why?

What's your theme?

State your theme and provide your arguments in a logical straightforward manner. I'm tired of trying to interpret your point.
DrafterX Offline
#178 Posted:
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SHOW ME DA MONEY..!! Mad
MACS Offline
#179 Posted:
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Um... Paul, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a few other 49ers joined him and even a few members of other teams joined in last year. 49er safety Eric Reid comes to mind.

Now, it didn't get crazy like it is now until Trump stated that the kneelers should be fired.
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#180 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
Show me where I'm wrong about NO OTHER NFL members joining the whining little SOB during his protest UNTIL TRUMP WAS ELECTED.....


SHOW ME


there were others last year on a few teams
it did grow this year and especially after trump called them out
although kaep was the first, he wasnt the only
TMCTLT Offline
#181 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Um... Paul, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a few other 49ers joined him and even a few members of other teams joined in last year. 49er safety Eric Reid comes to mind.

Now, it didn't get crazy like it is now until Trump was elected and worsened after he stated that the kneelers should be fired.



Okay, I was wrong....there were one or two...

Agreed. And still I say FUG EM
DrafterX Offline
#182 Posted:
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So, Kaperdick says he'll stand for the anthem if they let him play... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#183 Posted:
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Pence walks out of SF/Indy game after SF kneel... Quite the statement... Mellow
MACS Offline
#184 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Pence walks out of SF/Indy game after SF kneel... Quite the statement... Mellow


Why did he even go? That was stupid. Even if the tickets were free, I'd tell them to fuck off.
DrafterX Offline
#185 Posted:
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He was there for da Colts.. gotta think this was staged tho.. he prolly knew in advance SF would kneel... Mellow
qmech Offline
#186 Posted:
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So is the consensus Trump's tweets were sort of affective?

😁😁😁
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DrafterX Offline
#187 Posted:
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Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Sunday any player who disrespects the flag will not play.


Jones’ comments, the strongest made on the anthem controversy, came after he was asked about Vice President Mike Pence leaving the game in Indianapolis early after several San Francisco 49ers players took a knee during the national anthem.

"I know this, we cannot ... in the NFL in any way give the implication that we tolerate disrespecting the flag," he said following the Cowboys’ 35-31 loss to the Green Bay Packers. "We know that there is a serious debate in this country about those issues, but there is no question in my mind that the National Football League and the Dallas Cowboys are going to stand up for the flag. So we're clear."

Film at 11... Mellow
MACS Offline
#188 Posted:
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After his pre-anthem kneel has backfired... and ratings have gone down again.

I'm fine not watching. Of course if the fishing were better this time of year it would be easier.
TMCTLT Offline
#189 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Why did he even go? That was stupid. Even if the tickets were free, I'd tell them to fuck off.



He went to honor Peyton Manning whose number was being retired and who's new statue was being set and dedicated. The former Governor was there for that....I'm good with him walking out though!!!

Even better with the neeners continuing their ZERO wins season
MACS Offline
#190 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
He went to honor Peyton Manning whose number was being retired and who's new statue was being set and dedicated. The former Governor was there for that....I'm good with him walking out though!!!

Even better with the neeners continuing their ZERO wins season


That was the story. Lets be honest... the white house and the nfl are in a pissing contest. That is why he went. He knew they would kneel, and he planned to walk out when they did. I'm fine with that, if you OWN it.
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#191 Posted:
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Jemele Hill Suspended by ESPN After Response to Jerry Jones
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/sports/football/jemele-hill-suspended-espn.html
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#192 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
That was the story. Lets be honest... the white house and the nfl are in a pissing contest. That is why he went. He knew they would kneel, and he planned to walk out when they did. I'm fine with that, if you OWN it.



Yep...but since it was on the American tax-payers' dime, we paid beau coup bucks for this "leak". Price resigned and Mnuchin and other cabinet members took a buncha heat for extravagant use of govt. paid airplane rides...
MACS Offline
#193 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Yep...but since it was on the American tax-payers' dime, we paid beau coup bucks for this "leak". Price resigned and Mnuchin and other cabinet members took a buncha heat for extravagant use of govt. paid airplane rides...


C'mon. You weren't worried about the frivolous use of tax dollars while your party was in charge.
DrafterX Offline
#194 Posted:
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There was no spending limit back then... Even the IRS got Huugge bonuses and stuff... Mellow
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#195 Posted:
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ESPN's "Pardon the Interruption" host Michael Wilbon compared Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to a slaveowner after Jones all but banned players from protesting during the national anthem.

Jones said that, in the wake of continued demonstrations, players who disrespect the flag will not play in that game.

Wilbon's co-host Tony Kornheiser voiced his concern that key players like quarterback Dak Prescott or wideout Dez Bryant could force Jones to bench them if they were to protest.

"I believe he has the right to do that as an employer," Kornheiser said, adding that he dismissed Miami Dolphins owner Dennis Ross' new rule that protesting players must stay in the tunnel during the anthem.

But, Wilbon objected to Jones' actions outright.

"The word that comes to mind, and I don't care who doesn't like me using it, is 'plantation'," he said. "The players are here to serve me, they will do what I want no matter how much I pay them."

"They are not equal to me. That’s what this says to me and to mine," Wilbon said, imitating what he assessed as Jones' thoughts.


Film at 11...Think
Speyside Offline
#196 Posted:
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Two very divergent mind sets.

1) Disrespecting country, flag, and military.

2) Protest double standard black people face here.

Doubt anyone will change their minds.
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#197 Posted:
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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Tuesday wrote a letter to all 32 league owners regarding the protests that have taken place during the national anthem, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported.

In the letter, which Schefter shared on his Facebook page, Goodell wrote that the “current dispute over the National Anthem is threatening to erode the unifying power of our game, and is now dividing us, and our players, from many fans across the country.”

Last year, former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down and later took a knee during the playing of the national anthem as protest against racial injustice. More players have joined the protests and President Donald Trump spoke out against the activity in September and has continued to do so.

Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters has sat during the playing of the national anthem at every game this season.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/article178071036.html#storylink=cpy


So now that they have realized that the fans are pissed, Goodell says stand...
Abrignac Offline
#198 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Two very divergent mind sets.

1) Disrespecting country, flag, and military.

2) Protest double standard black people face here.

Doubt anyone will change their minds.


Please elaborate.....
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#199 Posted:
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#200 Posted:
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Nothing to elaborate on. I would be part of number 1. The athletes or Wilbon would be part of number 2.
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